Originally posted by Dampyre
Of course Morg had the Power Cosmic when he fought the Surfer. Do you really think Galactus brought Morg back without the PC? The reason that Morg won the first fight was because the Surfer was holding back. Morg himself even said that his power "was nearly comparable to the Surfer's." Morg was never more powerful than the Surfer until he got the WOL upgrade.Terrax gave Morg a half-decent tussle, sure. He also did the best against Morg when he had the WOL, matching him for a few panels before going down. No shame in that. I think Morg's showing against Thanos is overrated. It was a very brief tussle. Hell, the Fallen one was able to cause Thanos significant pain.
There was never any doubt in my mind that Morg lost the WOL upgrade after being brought back by Galactus. I didn't think anyone did until reading this thread. Anyway, that's my two cents.
\Wow I completely missed your post somehow. I agree with a lot of what you said, but you're trying to make sense of garbage inconsistent writing. If Morg did not have the WOL, why in the world was Tyrant bent on keeping him, and not the Surfer? There was something different about him that's why. I'm going to say this one thing, it's dangerous to believe in any one thing 100% when it comes to the Morg character, because not only were there inconsistencies between the writers that worked with the charcter, but there were a few times where they actually contradicted themselves as they continued onwards with stories with him in them post Herald Ordeal.
We're so far off of topic at this point that it should be obvious to you that what I am saying is the truth. The inconsistencies have several people torn about Morg's power level alone. The idea of Thanos using the orb to even the odd in his confrontation has become one of the Wonders of the World around this place, and this isn't the only time that this has occurred. So I'm really happy that this may finally be resolved.
Originally posted by Cosmicus
I'm not sure I understand. When Morg was revived he was given back the PC, not the WOL. And my evidence for him not possessing it is the fact that there is no on panel context in the comics stating this after his restoration. Asserting otherwise is your interpretation because nothing of the sort is said in the comics. We are not in agreement.Yes, Morg got his powers back.
Again, I think you are getting some things mixed up. The PC is Morgs' regular power. Without the WOL he was actually defeated by Silver Surfer.
As for the rest of what you said, I'm not seeing the inconsistencies you keep talking about. It's been well established that Thanos is far more powerful than heralds and the like, Morg certainly is not an exception. Surfer is the most powerful herald and has defeated Morg, Terrax has matched Morg, etc. I could go on, but the fact is that one odd showing where Thanos has a minor struggle against Morg (that's really all it was) doesn't mean much against all the other evidence.
I'm willing to accept the possibility that the WOL was burned out reviving Morg, however the question remains... Where did it go? Was it ever stated on panel? I'm asking because I never read that. If you have herpes before you go to bed at night, and wake up to a new day does it mean that the herpes virus is gone? We saw Galactus remove the power cosmic, was he ever shown on panel giving it back to Morg? Again I'm asking, but this time I'm asking because of the time frame in which I read the books, and may not recall. I'm also pretty certain that you understood exactly what I said, because it was in English not French or some language that you may not understand, or comprehend. in other words I'm not willing to re-write what i did in my previous post on the subject.
Where, and when was it stated that Morg got the power cosmic restored to him, the Water's of life became his regular powers the moment of immersion, it was as much a part of him as the power cosmic.
If Morg was just a mere Herald, Thanos would not have had trouble with him at all, but this is not what was shown on panel. If Morg only possessed the power cosmic Tyrant would not have cared if Galactus took him back, and he would have settled for the Surfer, and told him to pick which one stays, and which goes. Does this seem like an inconsistency to you? There are several people who identify with it being one of many. Like I said above to Dampyre; at this point I don't care who is right, or wrong, I'm happy that this has come up again, because there have been arguments in the past about the discrepancies contained in Morg, and Tyrant's history. Odin winning this is beside the point at this point. If what you are saying is correct, that's fine, even though you will never be 100% correct on this because of all of this contradictions surrounding this subject.