Rematch Thanos vs Odin with a couple twists

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Originally posted by Stoic
There could be a reason for this, or several that I don't know of, or fully understand to have happened. Morg may not have had the power cosmic at that period in time, if at all. This is what is known; in their first encounter, Morg defeated the Surfer easily, and he did it while possessing the power cosmic alone. We then later see Galactus remove the power cosmic from him, and the other Heralds killed him, while he only had the WOL.

There were issues of inconsistencies that plagued Morg's, and Tyrant's history due to writer discrepancy, which I stated way back in this same thread. This is something that me and Zop spoke about in a similar thread a of couple years ago. but then there are statements albeit handbook statements supporting the idea that at the end of his life that he still had possession of the WOL. Then there is the possibility of an unexplained retcon that could have happened.

All the same, I can't explain writer error, because I didn't hack up the story in order to do a rush job on Morg's final day in the sun. Everything makes sense up until a certain point in his history, and then.... It was so bad that Terrax give Morg a decent fight, and then Morg turns around and gives Thanos one. It's so bad that I will likely refuse to support anything that has Morg vs anyone after a certain point in his history. Real murky shit.

Of course Morg had the Power Cosmic when he fought the Surfer. Do you really think Galactus brought Morg back without the PC? The reason that Morg won the first fight was because the Surfer was holding back. Morg himself even said that his power "was nearly comparable to the Surfer's." Morg was never more powerful than the Surfer until he got the WOL upgrade.

Terrax gave Morg a half-decent tussle, sure. He also did the best against Morg when he had the WOL, matching him for a few panels before going down. No shame in that. I think Morg's showing against Thanos is overrated. It was a very brief tussle. Hell, the Fallen one was able to cause Thanos significant pain.

There was never any doubt in my mind that Morg lost the WOL upgrade after being brought back by Galactus. I didn't think anyone did until reading this thread. Anyway, that's my two cents.

Originally posted by Cosmicus
Me asking you for proof that he still possessed it and you answering with prove that he DIDN'T still possess it is faulty logic.

Wait, what? The Power Cosmic is his standard power, I think you're mixing it up with the WOL. Morg without the WOL was defeated by Silver Surfer. The only possible inconsistency I see is his short fight with Thanos, and come on, it was a minor struggle at best, lets not make it more than it was. But when we take into account that he was matched by Terrax in the same issue, defeated by Silver Surfer, and the fact that his peers have always been inferior to Thanos, kind of makes it hard to swallow the assertion that he had the WOL based on that fight alone, which is also ignoring the fact of there not being any context substantiating it.

Then where is your evidence that the WOL was removed from him? We know for a fact that the power cosmic was removed. Are we in agreement thus far? Yes or no?

Was there a scene that shows Galactus giving him back the power cosmic? Yes or no?

It's like I said, there are a few discrepancies in his history. When he had the power cosmic he easily defeated the Surfer (in their first encounter). Are we in agreement here? Yes or no?

What happened after the Herald Ordeal lost much in terms of consistency. Go ahead, go back and piece together all of the poor plot lines that happened after the Herald Ordeal, and you will see exactly what I mean.

Even Tyrant's history was hacked up by poor writing. So by all means, when or if you choose to go back and look at the poor writing that took place, delve into Tyrant's story as well.

As for Terrax giving Morg a hard time, and Morg giving Thanos a hard time, they are both things that happened, and when compared make no sense. You can try to lesson one, and glorify the other, but it will always remain that they both happened on panel.

Thanos would turn Terrax out in moments if they had an encounter, he was unable to do this to Morg. Are we in agreement with this? yes or no?

So by all means, spit on one, and glorify the other, that is you prerogative after all.

Originally posted by Stoic
Then where is your evidence that the WOL was removed from him? We know for a fact that the power cosmic was removed. Are we in agreement thus far? Yes or no?

Was there a scene that shows Galactus giving him back the power cosmic? Yes or no?

It's like I said, there are a few discrepancies in his history. When he had the power cosmic he easily defeated the Surfer (in their first encounter). Are we in agreement here? Yes or no?

What happened after the Herald Ordeal lost much in terms of consistency. Go ahead, go back and piece together all of the poor plot lines that happened after the Herald Ordeal, and you will see exactly what I mean.

Even Tyrant's history was hacked up by poor writing. So by all means, when or if you choose to go back and look at the poor writing that took place, delve into Tyrant's story as well.

As for Terrax giving Morg a hard time, and Morg giving Thanos a hard time, they are both things that happened, and when compared make no sense. You can try to lesson one, and glorify the other, but it will always remain that they both happened on panel.

Thanos would turn Terrax out in moments if they had an encounter, he was unable to do this to Morg. Are we in agreement with this? yes or no?

So by all means, spit on one, and glorify the other, that is you prerogative after all.

I'm not sure I understand. When Morg was revived he was given back the PC, not the WOL. And my evidence for him not possessing it is the fact that there is no on panel context in the comics stating this after his restoration. Asserting otherwise is your interpretation because nothing of the sort is said in the comics. We are not in agreement.

Yes, Morg got his powers back.

Again, I think you are getting some things mixed up. The PC is Morgs' regular power. Without the WOL he was actually defeated by Silver Surfer.

As for the rest of what you said, I'm not seeing the inconsistencies you keep talking about. It's been well established that Thanos is far more powerful than heralds and the like, Morg certainly is not an exception. Surfer is the most powerful herald and has defeated Morg, Terrax has matched Morg, etc. I could go on, but the fact is that one odd showing where Thanos has a minor struggle against Morg (that's really all it was) doesn't mean much against all the other evidence.

Originally posted by Dampyre
Of course Morg had the Power Cosmic when he fought the Surfer. Do you really think Galactus brought Morg back without the PC? The reason that Morg won the first fight was because the Surfer was holding back. Morg himself even said that his power "was nearly comparable to the Surfer's." Morg was never more powerful than the Surfer until he got the WOL upgrade.

Terrax gave Morg a half-decent tussle, sure. He also did the best against Morg when he had the WOL, matching him for a few panels before going down. No shame in that. I think Morg's showing against Thanos is overrated. It was a very brief tussle. Hell, the Fallen one was able to cause Thanos significant pain.

There was never any doubt in my mind that Morg lost the WOL upgrade after being brought back by Galactus. I didn't think anyone did until reading this thread. Anyway, that's my two cents.

\Wow I completely missed your post somehow. I agree with a lot of what you said, but you're trying to make sense of garbage inconsistent writing. If Morg did not have the WOL, why in the world was Tyrant bent on keeping him, and not the Surfer? There was something different about him that's why. I'm going to say this one thing, it's dangerous to believe in any one thing 100% when it comes to the Morg character, because not only were there inconsistencies between the writers that worked with the charcter, but there were a few times where they actually contradicted themselves as they continued onwards with stories with him in them post Herald Ordeal.

We're so far off of topic at this point that it should be obvious to you that what I am saying is the truth. The inconsistencies have several people torn about Morg's power level alone. The idea of Thanos using the orb to even the odd in his confrontation has become one of the Wonders of the World around this place, and this isn't the only time that this has occurred. So I'm really happy that this may finally be resolved.

Originally posted by Cosmicus
I'm not sure I understand. When Morg was revived he was given back the PC, not the WOL. And my evidence for him not possessing it is the fact that there is no on panel context in the comics stating this after his restoration. Asserting otherwise is your interpretation because nothing of the sort is said in the comics. We are not in agreement.

Yes, Morg got his powers back.

Again, I think you are getting some things mixed up. The PC is Morgs' regular power. Without the WOL he was actually defeated by Silver Surfer.

As for the rest of what you said, I'm not seeing the inconsistencies you keep talking about. It's been well established that Thanos is far more powerful than heralds and the like, Morg certainly is not an exception. Surfer is the most powerful herald and has defeated Morg, Terrax has matched Morg, etc. I could go on, but the fact is that one odd showing where Thanos has a minor struggle against Morg (that's really all it was) doesn't mean much against all the other evidence.

I'm willing to accept the possibility that the WOL was burned out reviving Morg, however the question remains... Where did it go? Was it ever stated on panel? I'm asking because I never read that. If you have herpes before you go to bed at night, and wake up to a new day does it mean that the herpes virus is gone? We saw Galactus remove the power cosmic, was he ever shown on panel giving it back to Morg? Again I'm asking, but this time I'm asking because of the time frame in which I read the books, and may not recall. I'm also pretty certain that you understood exactly what I said, because it was in English not French or some language that you may not understand, or comprehend. in other words I'm not willing to re-write what i did in my previous post on the subject.

Where, and when was it stated that Morg got the power cosmic restored to him, the Water's of life became his regular powers the moment of immersion, it was as much a part of him as the power cosmic.

If Morg was just a mere Herald, Thanos would not have had trouble with him at all, but this is not what was shown on panel. If Morg only possessed the power cosmic Tyrant would not have cared if Galactus took him back, and he would have settled for the Surfer, and told him to pick which one stays, and which goes. Does this seem like an inconsistency to you? There are several people who identify with it being one of many. Like I said above to Dampyre; at this point I don't care who is right, or wrong, I'm happy that this has come up again, because there have been arguments in the past about the discrepancies contained in Morg, and Tyrant's history. Odin winning this is beside the point at this point. If what you are saying is correct, that's fine, even though you will never be 100% correct on this because of all of this contradictions surrounding this subject.

Originally posted by Stoic
I'm willing to accept the possibility that the WOL was burned out reviving Morg, however the question remains... Where did it go? Was it ever stated on panel? I'm asking because I never read that. If you have herpes before you go to bed at night, and wake up to a new day does it mean that the herpes virus is gone? We saw Galactus remove the power cosmic, was he ever shown on panel giving it back to Morg? Again I'm asking, but this time I'm asking because of the time frame in which I read the books, and may not recall. I'm also pretty certain that you understood exactly what I said, because it was in English not French or some language that you may not understand, or comprehend. in other words I'm not willing to re-write what i did in my previous post on the subject.

Where, and when was it stated that Morg got the power cosmic restored to him, the Water's of life became his regular powers the moment of immersion, it was as much a part of him as the power cosmic.

If Morg was just a mere Herald, Thanos would not have had trouble with him at all, but this is not what was shown on panel. If Morg only possessed the power cosmic Tyrant would not have cared if Galactus took him back, and he would have settled for the Surfer, and told him to pick which one stays, and which goes. Does this seem like an inconsistency to you? There are several people who identify with it being one of many. Like I said above to Dampyre; at this point I don't care who is right, or wrong, I'm happy that this has come up again, because there have been arguments in the past about the discrepancies contained in Morg, and Tyrant's history. Odin winning this is beside the point at this point. If what you are saying is correct, that's fine, even though you will never be 100% correct on this because of all of this contradictions surrounding this subject.

Who knows what happened to it. What I do know though is that Morg obviously didn't possess it otherwise the writer would make note of this. I mean, it's a pretty significant amp. If Galactus restored him with it still in his possession then you'd expect there to be some kind of context suggesting so. As for why it didn't specifically mention the PC returning to him, this question doesn't make sense. If Galactus was going to restore Morg, why wouldn't he give him his standard powers back? That would be pointless. The WOL is a completely different story, but his regular power returning to him is to be expected.

I think you are putting far too much stock into this one brief fight. It's not like Morg has shown anything else to suggest he's any different in power from the other heralds. He's also been defeated Surfer and matched by Terrax on panel, so I don't know why you're looking so much into one odd showing.

As for Tyrant keeping Morg, I thought it was obvious he just wanted to spite Galactus, I don't think it was implying that Morg is supposed to be the most powerful.

But what you said at the bottom is fair enough. You can have your own interpretations, doesn't mean me or anyone else has to agree, the same goes for my position on the subject (even though I strongly believe my points corroborate the on panel evidence in the comics. And no, it's not just because it's my own logic).

Originally posted by Cosmicus
Sure, despite the fact that no where does it acknowledge that he still had it in the comics, this much is evident seeing as how he was matched by Terrax. Bios are second hand sources, you can't really expect them to take the place of what is shown in the comics.

But it has - Galactus made mention of it during his resurrection of Morg right after the herald ordeal. So we've got that + the bio, two instances where our point was stated.

How was Terrax recent fight with Morg evidence to losing the WOL? I just don't get that, they're fight kinda went similar when they fought in the Herald Ordeal arc. - Heck you could pretty much make a case, that Morg's power level remained the same from that arc to cosmic powers as is evident in both fights.

Originally posted by zopzop

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Nice find Ambient!


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Originally posted by Cosmicus
Who knows what happened to it. What I do know though is that Morg obviously didn't possess it otherwise the writer would make note of this. I mean, it's a pretty significant amp. If Galactus restored him with it still in his possession then you'd expect there to be some kind of context suggesting so. As for why it didn't specifically mention the PC returning to him, this question doesn't make sense. If Galactus was going to restore Morg, why wouldn't he give him his standard powers back? That would be pointless. The WOL is a completely different story, but his regular power returning to him is to be expected.

I think you are putting far too much stock into this one brief fight. It's not like Morg has shown anything else to suggest he's any different in power from the other heralds. He's also been defeated Surfer and matched by Terrax on panel, so I don't know why you're looking so much into one odd showing.

As for Tyrant keeping Morg, I thought it was obvious he just wanted to spite Galactus, I don't think it was implying that Morg is supposed to be the most powerful.

But what you said at the bottom is fair enough. You can have your own interpretations, doesn't mean me or anyone else has to agree, the same goes for my position on the subject (even though I strongly believe my points corroborate the on panel evidence in the comics. And no, it's not just because it's my own logic).

What I think, is that you place too much stock in writers being competent, and less on many of the discrepancies, and contradictions surrounding the ones that wrote the post Herald Ordeal stories. let's take a look at Terrax for one. It was never explained how Terrax gained the ability to make interstellar jaunts from planet to planet, and there we see him flying off into space looking for Morg's axe. No discrepancies there... Nope. During the fight with Morg vs the Heralds, Terrax was nearly helpless, and would have drifted off into deep space if he wasn't aided.

You want so badly to be correct, and ask what sense does this make, while dancing around other less than contiguous points. What do I mean by that you may wonder? Why did Tyrant want Morg? What did he have that the Silver Surfer didn't? Could it have been his receding hairline? His less than charming ways? Did he want to have butt sex with him? What was it that made him risk a confrontation with Galactus that would have in Galactus' own words lay waste to the galaxy if they had it out? What was so special about Morg the man of the hour? Like I said, the Surfer had the power cosmic as well correct? Yes of course he did, so why not take the Surfer and allow Galactus to get back to searching for planets to devour? Just tell me when you see any contradictions, and poor writing due to lack of proper research. I'll wait.... I hope.

I place as much stock in Morg's confrontation with Thanos, as you do in Morg's confrontation with Terrax, but you don't see me glorifying one over the other. I attribute it to garbage writing, and in that fact, you will find that many of the things that you, and Dampyre pointed out are correct, but there are things that you will never be 100% correct about, because of the inconsistencies. Continuity was off, way off. Don't beat yourself up over it, shit happens.

You were unable to find out if Morg lost the WOL, because it was never written, you aren't able to prove beyond a shadow of doubt that Morg was gifted once more with the PC, because it was not written, or i don't recall it being written. Was it written? Does it make sense? A whole lot of things don't make sense. The garbage that was written didn't just shake the shit out of us, it threw the writers of official handbooks off as well as you witnessed a couple of pages back. Like I said, don't beat yourself up over, you didn't write that trash... Or did you?

[QUOTE=14774271]Originally posted by Ambient
[B]But it has - Galactus made mention of it during his resurrection of Morg right after the herald ordeal. So we've got that + the bio, two instances where our point was stated.

How was Terrax recent fight with Morg evidence to losing the WOL? I just don't get that, they're fight kinda went similar when they fought in the Herald Ordeal arc. - Heck you could pretty much make a case, that Morg's power level remained the same from that arc to cosmic powers as is evident in both fights.

I invite you to post this evidence, because I do not recall any mention of it. And I see nothing at all in that bio that even mentions the WOL. It also says that Morg is a universal threat which is ludicrous, seriously how is that bio credible at all?

Wasn't Morg with the WOL supposed to be much more powerful than the other heralds? Terrax matching him by himself if Morg had the WOL doesn't make sense.

Originally posted by Cosmicus
[QUOTE=14774271]Originally posted by Ambient
[B]But it has - Galactus made mention of it during his resurrection of Morg right after the herald ordeal. So we've got that + the bio, two instances where our point was stated.

How was Terrax recent fight with Morg evidence to losing the WOL? I just don't get that, they're fight kinda went similar when they fought in the Herald Ordeal arc. - Heck you could pretty much make a case, that Morg's power level remained the same from that arc to cosmic powers as is evident in both fights.

I invite you to post this evidence, because I do not recall any mention of it. And I see nothing at all in that bio that even mentions the WOL. It also says that Morg is a universal threat which is ludicrous, seriously how is that bio credible at all?

Wasn't Morg with the WOL supposed to be much more powerful than the other heralds? Terrax matching him by himself if Morg had the WOL doesn't make sense.

But then he turns around, and starts matching Thanos in a fight. So either Terrax jumped up to Trans tier, or Thanos dropped down to Herald tier, despite Tyrant saying that he was more than these others. I don't know why you simply don't get it? The entire affair as a whole from the time Morg fought the Surfer, to when he used the UN to sanction Tyrant, was written by different writers that failed to properly research the facts. This has lead to more than one debate on the subject. Some people swear that the orb was an item of power, with good reason, while other swear against it with good reason. I think we may need the Myth Busters to come in on this, and debunk this.

Originally posted by Cosmicus
[QUOTE=14774271]Originally posted by Ambient
I invite you to post this evidence, because I do not recall any mention of it. And I see nothing at all in that bio that even mentions the WOL. It also says that Morg is a universal threat which is ludicrous, seriously how is that bio credible at all?

Wasn't Morg with the WOL supposed to be much more powerful than the other heralds? Terrax matching him by himself if Morg had the WOL doesn't make sense.


The bases of his resurrection was the WOL, which was used to bring him back to life.

The absorbed powers of planet bastion = WOL.

Only when serving as herald to Galactus his a Universal treat but a category 1 as individual.

Yes! Morg def. a tier above herald. Terrax matching him momentary does not = same power level. If you recall during the herald ordeal, Terrax match him h2h or axe2axe tell his broke. Then they're 2nd encounter, Tyrant's arc. They fought - h2Axe (Morg with out his axe this time) again Terrax momentary match him but lost. Like I said i don't really understand what you are trying to imply here? Evidence to what? I don't see any discrepancy in they're individual power levels in both fights and that Morg has always been > Terrax.

Originally posted by Stoic
Hey it looks like you were wrong. Can you see where I'm coming from?

Good shit.

Marvel database.

Months later, Galactus resurrected Morg, imbuing him with the Power Cosmic once more but removing the increased effects of the Well of Life, and offered him a second chance. Morg then sought his missing axe. Morg went off in search of Terrax to exact vengeance upon him, but during their battle they were ambushed by robots working for the villain Tyrant and were taken captive.

The assembled heralds confronted Morg together and were easily defeated. In the battle, Air-Walker was severely damaged again and Morg killed Nova by blasting her in the back when he was thought to have been beaten. Galactus was not pleased with this as he had not ordered her death. Galactus removed the power cosmic that he had imbued in Morg, leaving him with only the power he'd gained from the pool he'd discovered. In his weakened state, Morg was killed by Terrax. To repay Galactus the inconvenience of losing his herald, both Firelord and Air Walker volunteered to stay with him.

Marvel Database is a wiki format as in anyone can edit it, so long as your a member. I take marvel bio as much more credible source as it is strictly coming from writers views.

Man this is getting nowhere.
Pay attention Cosmicus:

Silver Surfer #78
Galactus resurrects Morg:

Galactus - "I foresaw your augmented power sustained a spark of life I needed only fan".
Galactus tells him Terrax stole his ax.

Silver Surfer #79
Beta Ray Bill and Gladiator get captured by drones.

Silver Surfer #80
Morg catches up with Terrax. Morg muscles his ax back during the fight and is about to whack Terrax but the drones zap em and take em in.

Silver Surfer #81
Surfer and Ganymede kill some drones but are captured by Tyrant himself. Surfer is 2 shotted and hooked up to the siphoning matrix with everybody else.

Silver Surfer #82
Jack busts the matrix and everyone is free. Tyrant stomps. Galactus shows up demanding Morg. Tyrant says hell no he has too much power, leave my fortress and take the trash out (the other heralds) with you.

Now fast forward to Cosmic Powers #5
Morg has been siphoned all this time. To the point he can barely speak. Tyrant restores some of his PC but contrary to what we've been saying, he gets 2 shotted by Thanos. He had a mind control device implanted which may explain his tenacity in this encounter.

Cosmic Powers #6
After researching, Thanos finds the orb and is very confident he can defeat Tyrant. Even after Terrax told him how he just spite stomped everybody.

The rest is history.
Morg still had the powers, they were just not really exhibited in battle but instead remained latent. Most likely due to plot purposes for the Cosmic Powers story arc. It wouldn't make sense for him to showcase his full fledged WoL amp in combat because he alone would have been a challenge for Tyrant to some extent and that would've totally destroyed the whole storyline.

We can close the book on this now.

Originally posted by Ambient
Marvel Database is a wiki format as in anyone can edit it, so long as your a member. I take marvel bio as much more credible source as it is strictly coming from writers views.
True, but every source of info on Morg states that Galactus took away the effects of the well of life when he brought Morg back to life.

Due to his low morality, Morg’s position as Herald was contested by the Silver Surfer, former Herald of Galactus. The Silver Surfer gathered his fellow ex-heralds Firelord, Air-Walker, Terrax and Nova to confront Morg. Nova lost her life in the battle. Terrax the Tamer brutally defeated Morg in a vicious cosmic confrontation and kept the executioner’s ax. Galactus resurrected Morg once more but reduced his power level, making him equal to the other heralds.

Originally posted by Sundipped
Man this is getting nowhere.
Pay attention Cosmicus:

Silver Surfer #78
Galactus resurrects Morg:

Galactus - "I foresaw your [B]augmented power sustained a spark of life I needed only fan".
Galactus tells him Terrax stole his ax.

Silver Surfer #79
Beta Ray Bill and Gladiator get captured by drones.

Silver Surfer #80
Morg catches up with Terrax. Morg muscles his ax back during the fight and is about to whack Terrax but the drones zap em and take em in.

Silver Surfer #81
Surfer and Ganymede kill some drones but are captured by Tyrant himself. Surfer is 2 shotted and hooked up to the siphoning matrix with everybody else.

Silver Surfer #82
Jack busts the matrix and everyone is free. Tyrant stomps. Galactus shows up demanding Morg. Tyrant says hell no he has too much power, leave my fortress and take the trash out (the other heralds) with you.

Now fast forward to Cosmic Powers #5
Morg has been siphoned all this time. To the point he can barely speak. Tyrant restores some of his PC but contrary to what we've been saying, he gets 2 shotted by Thanos. He had a mind control device implanted which may explain his tenacity in this encounter.

Cosmic Powers #6
After researching, Thanos finds the orb and is very confident he can defeat Tyrant. Even after Terrax told him how he just spite stomped everybody.

The rest is history.
Morg still had the powers, they were just not really exhibited in battle but instead remained latent. Most likely due to plot purposes for the Cosmic Powers story arc. It wouldn't make sense for him to showcase his full fledged WoL amp in combat because he alone would have been a challenge for Tyrant to some extent and that would've totally destroyed the whole storyline.

We can close the book on this now. [/B]

Where exactly in this post is evidence that Morg still possessed the WOL? We don't need a re-telling, we need one piece of context that specifically suggests Morg still had the WOL, and this is a task that has failed to be accomplished. With that being said, your assertions that the orb was significant and whatever else is really nothing but your own personal interpretations.

You are right about one thing, though. We can close the book on this, because this circular debate has become tiring and it doesn't look like anybody is changing anyone's mind.

Originally posted by Sundipped
I know what you're talking about but a why do you need to see the scan? I already said it contained knowledge but you seem to be missing the point that the scans I did post have Thanos on panel stating that the orb is full of energy so it's obvious the orb contains both.

I saw the scan you posted.. the scan I'm referring to.. which you've seen.. talks about it containing knowledge and knowledge is power.. This was AFTER the scan you posted and from another comic I believe. So, what I'm saying is.. it saying it only contained knowledge could be considered a recton of anything stating it had energy. In the scan you posted it wasn't hooked up to machines or any such thing... when Thanos ACTUALLY hook it up to his diagnostic machine.. he said it contained knowledge. Somebody must have this scan....

Originally posted by Cosmicus
Where exactly in this post is evidence that Morg still possessed the WOL? We don't need a re-telling, we need one piece of context that specifically suggests Morg still had the WOL, and this is a task that has failed to be accomplished. With that being said, your assertions that the orb was significant and whatever else is really nothing but your own personal interpretations.

The part where his recreation was fan from the spark of life present in WOL which was farther clarified or supported in the bio. How is this even being discussed after all the evidence presented? 🙁 against a point lacking/ no proof to they're claim.
Originally posted by JBL
True, but every source of info on Morg states that Galactus took away the effects of the well of life when he brought Morg back to life.
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What other source?

Originally posted by Cosmicus
Where exactly in this post is evidence that Morg still possessed the WOL? We don't need a re-telling, we need one piece of context that specifically suggests Morg still had the WOL, and this is a task that has failed to be accomplished. With that being said, your assertions that the orb was significant and whatever else is really nothing but your own personal interpretations.

You are right about one thing, though. We can close the book on this, because this circular debate has become tiring and it doesn't look like anybody is changing anyone's mind.

Your stubbornness is becoming increasingly apparent and seriously, it's not a good look at all bruh.

Dude look:
Galactus stripped Morg of the power cosmic in Silver Surfer #75.
In #78 (which the scan was posted above) Galactus states - "I FORSAW YOUR AUGMENTED POWER WOULD SUSTAIN A SPARK OF LIFE THAT I NEEDED ONLY FAN"

Now what does this mean?
THAT THE WOL WAS STILL PRESENT!
Galactus knew that even though the PC was stripped, the WOL amp would make it easy for him to revive Morg. That's what he foresaw when he stripped him. The power still laid dormant but apparently could still be siphoned.

This latent energy is what Tyrant sensed, desired and therefore caused him to defy the world eater, even if it meant universal destruction. These energies were stored in the orb. A quick scan of Tyrant's computer obviously revealed this and Thanos immediately asked specifically for the Morg orb.

Now any further refusal or unacceptance of the events that took place will make you look like....for lack of a better word.....insanely stupid. You just recently joined KMC and I'm afraid you've already made a lasting first impression. This impression however is definitely not positive.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I saw the scan you posted.. the scan I'm referring to.. which you've seen.. talks about it containing knowledge and knowledge is power.. This was AFTER the scan you posted and from another comic I believe. So, what I'm saying is.. it saying it only contained knowledge could be considered a recton of anything stating it had energy. In the scan you posted it wasn't hooked up to machines or any such thing... when Thanos ACTUALLY hook it up to his diagnostic machine.. he said it contained knowledge. Somebody must have this scan....

No it was from the same comic. The orb contains both. Why are you steadily trying to imply that it has to be one or the other? Can it not be both? Here's the scan:

Thanos - "Now I probe the spoils of my struggle...attempting to learn it's secrets and gain more knowledge". By more, he means to find out if the orb can be used for any other purpose besides storing and emitting energy.

@Sundipped/Sotic/Ambient

Why bother at this point? If the PLAIN READING of ON PANEL EVIDENCE doesn't change minds, nothing will.

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I'm done. If he denies this then he would only be showing his true colors.