Rematch Thanos vs Odin with a couple twists

Originally posted by carver9
You're not making one bit of sense and you are avoiding the question. If Thanos didn't need the Orb against Tyrant and he only acquired it as knowledge, why did he use it 100% of the time during the fight? His blasts came from it and he used it as a blunt weapon as well. Explain this to me and stop going in circles. You're either in denial and don't want to admit that you are wrong or you are intentionally doing this to rile people up (and you're doing a good job at it too).

I'm avoiding the question? I'm surprised, given that I'm pretty sure I directly addressed what you said and it seems that you are avoiding important information regarding the orb. But I'll try again; Why did Thanos constantly use the orb against Tyrant? I don't really have an answer for that. But clearly you are under the impression that because of this, the orb is supposed to be significant against him, no? And I know that this is completely false. Why? Because the orb contained not even the full energies of one herald. We have seen Tyrant stomp five herald level beings and topple even Galactus, but the orb is supposed to be significant? So I guess the left over energies of a herald are a threat to Galactus level beings. Go figure.

This is what has been constantly ignored and avoided for whatever reason, probably because it completely makes the notion that the orb was significant against Tyrant utterly ridiculous and we can't have people admitting they're wrong, can we? Funny.

Originally posted by Cosmicus
I'm avoiding the question? I'm surprised, given that I'm pretty sure I directly addressed what you said and it seems that you are avoiding important information regarding the orb. But I'll try again; Why did Thanos constantly use the orb against Tyrant? I don't really have an answer for that. But clearly you are under the impression that because of this, the orb is supposed to be significant against him, no? And I know that this is completely false. Why? Because the orb contained not even the full energies of one herald. We have seen Tyrant stomp five herald level beings and topple even Galactus, but the orb is supposed to be significant? So I guess the left over energies of a herald are a threat to Galactus level beings. Go figure.

This is what has been constantly ignored and avoided for whatever reason, probably because it completely makes the notion that the orb was significant against Tyrant utterly ridiculous and we can't have people admitting they're wrong, can we? Funny.

So you explained the reason why Thanos was desperately crawling for the orb when he dropped it? Also, provide a scan where it states the Orb would give Thanos knowledge on how to beat Tyrant.

Also, Morg gave Thanos a fight, and when I say fight i mean a good fight, so Thanos using Morg energy added to his own would be beneficial. Hell, any boost would be beneficial and adding someone's powers to yours is a boost/amp. Thanos + Morg power doesn't = Thanos. By the way, can someone provide a scan where it states Morg's energy was in the sphere.

You could say the orb having any energy at all was rectonned as Thanos diagnosed it later and said it contained knowledge and knowledge is power. which contradicts Thanos firing any energy using the orbs power.. yet it kinda seems like it did going by the artwork. So take that as you will. I think it's a good fight if the team works together or if they get any kinda prep they own. IF they don't work as a team they'll lose with Thanos obviously standing last and putting up a decent fight.

Originally posted by Ambient
Morg has always had the WOL and had never been without since acquiring it. Galactus was only able to resurrect him because of the presence of it in his body and this was what allowed him to survive being ultimate nullified by the Ultimate Nullifier however he was still weakend and was captured by Annihilus.. All this was stated in his Annihilation bio.. Just an FYI

Originally posted by Insane Titan
I wouldn't take handbook that serious, as in some handbooks it says Thanos stalemated Odin

Everthing concerning the Cosmic Powers Unlimited arc is spot on.

Originally posted by carver9
By the way, can someone provide a scan where it states Morg's energy was in the sphere.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You could say the orb having any energy at all was rectonned as Thanos diagnosed it later and said it contained knowledge and knowledge is power. which contradicts Thanos firing any energy using the orbs power.. yet it kinda seems like it did going by the artwork. So take that as you will.

Forget about the artwork, did you see what was stated ON PANEL in the above scans? These orbs are sources of knowledge AND energy. You can even see energy radiating from it multiple times in the comic.

Originally posted by carver9
So you explained the reason why Thanos was desperately crawling for the orb when he dropped it? Also, provide a scan where it states the Orb would give Thanos knowledge on how to beat Tyrant.

Also, Morg gave Thanos a fight, and when I say fight i mean a good fight, so Thanos using Morg energy added to his own would be beneficial. Hell, any boost would be beneficial and adding someone's powers to yours is a boost/amp. Thanos + Morg power doesn't = Thanos. By the way, can someone provide a scan where it states Morg's energy was in the sphere.

I'm not sure what you're trying to say with this. Thanos planned to steal the orb, so obviously he will try to not let it get away from him. I don't have scans but what Thanos wanted was knowledge on Tyrant. Taking this into account, the orb obviously contained knowledge since Thanos was going to steal it.

I think it's pretty well established that Thanos is much more powerful than the heralds. A minor struggle with Morg when he was matched by Terrax in the same issue doesn't help the notion. Silver Surfer is the most powerful herald and has easily beaten Morg when angry and Thanos is clearly far more powerful than him.

Regarding the other thing you said, a little boy can help me push a heavy object. That doesn't mean his help is going to be significant in any way. The same thing applies here. You can't really expect an orb containing the left over power of one herald to do anything, at all, against someone like Tyrant. So his fight with Tyrant is a durability showing more than anything really.

Handbooks still don't take preference over on panel proof

Originally posted by Insane Titan
Handbooks still don't take preference over on panel proof

It's nothing on panel to dispute Morg having the WoL amp.

Originally posted by Sundipped

Everthing concerning the Cosmic Powers Unlimited arc is spot on.

Forget about the artwork, did you see what was stated [b]ON PANEL in the above scans? These orbs are sources of knowledge AND energy. You can even see energy radiating from it multiple times in the comic. [/B]

You didn't POST THE SCAN I was referencing.. after what you posted.. he had the orb hooked up to all kinds of machines and was analyzing it and I believe said it contained Knowledge but Knowledge is power. I can't locate the scan but it exists

Originally posted by Sundipped
It's nothing on panel to dispute Morg having the WoL amp.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You didn't POST THE SCAN I was referencing.. after what you posted.. he had the orb hooked up to all kinds of machines and was analyzing it and I believe said it contained Knowledge but Knowledge is power. I can't locate the scan but it exists

What knowledge did it give Thanos and do you have a scan stating what knowledge it gave him?

Originally posted by carver9
What knowledge did it give Thanos and do you have a scan stating what knowledge it gave him?

Originally posted by quanchi112
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Originally posted by carver9
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Originally posted by quanchi112
You misunderstood.

Thought we was having a laughing contest. What did I misunderstand?

Originally posted by carver9
Thought we was having a laughing contest. What did I misunderstand?

Originally posted by quanchi112
If the page says it gave him knowledge then you should know what that means due to the definition of the word knowledge. Did you really expect the writer to lay out detailed plans about the knowledge the orb contained ?

Why not? It also said it gave him ENERGY as well. We can't ignore that statement, can we Quan?

While Morg was alive he possessed the power cosmic, and he also possessed the water's of life just like it is stated in the handbook entry. Anyone stating otherwise is wrong, and would basically be arguing with a canonical source.

Handbooks are not the end all be all, but can be used to understand what a character possesses in terms of power set. Or should we argue with, or dismiss what they state about how the Hulk, Superman, Thor, or the Silver Surfer's powers work, or what these powers mean and can do? No we can not.

Originally posted by quanchi112
If the page says it gave him knowledge then you should know what that means due to the definition of the word knowledge. Did you really expect the writer to lay out detailed plans about the knowledge the orb contained ?

It also says that it gives Energy. You missed that part.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You didn't POST THE SCAN I was referencing.. after what you posted.. he had the orb hooked up to all kinds of machines and was analyzing it and I believe said it contained Knowledge but Knowledge is power. I can't locate the scan but it exists

I know what you're talking about but a why do you need to see the scan? I already said it contained knowledge but you seem to be missing the point that the scans I did post have Thanos on panel stating that the orb is full of energy so it's obvious the orb contains both.

Originally posted by Stoic
It also says that it gives Energy. You missed that part.