.... Six -Vs- Thanos .....

Originally posted by h1a8
This is not how a character would fight in a comic book. We have forum rules. You can't ignore them because it suits you.
Full capacity prevents characters from losing their 'always on' abilities mid battle and makes them operate at optimal ability.

I don't care how many times Superman has been hit (It's completely ok for Superman to get hit by beings close to his speed). Either he purposely allowed himself to get hit (which is character), his speed and reflexes were turned OFF for the sake of the plot, or the characters were close to his speed or faster.

Since you are arguing character then you must believe that former, Superman purposely gets hit. If so, then he will purposely get hit here as well (maybe to gauge Thanos power). But make no mistake, Superman can and will turn on the speed at any time during the match.

Why would Thanos crush Superman if he uses his speed? What good are reactions when Thanos is too slow. Superman can literally move more than 5ft before Thanos can move an inch. What good are reactions then?

Lastly, how would Thanos crush Superman if speed was equal? Superman will start weaker than Thanos due to holding back but will eventually surpass him when he sees the Titan's power. Superman that's not holding back is stronger than Thanos. If you disagree then you don't know Superman's feats at all. Yes I know Thanos strength feats. His highest ones are beating on Surfer and grappling with Drax to make a planet destroy itself.

Thanos has TP. What good is Thundarr the Barbarian here? Ukla the Mak, and Princess Ariel aren't here to save him, nor would his spirit sword help him out. Optimus is in over his head. He Man, and Thor may find themselves fighting each other due to his TP, and the lion guy... LOL.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Two completely different answers.

Thanos still wins the vast majority as I said.

It's nice you searched the thread for my posts though , aww did I get to you fat Ken?

Originally posted by h1a8
This is not how a character would fight in a comic book. We have forum rules. You can't ignore them because it suits you.
Full capacity prevents characters from losing their 'always on' abilities mid battle and makes them operate at optimal ability.

I don't care how many times Superman has been hit (It's completely ok for Superman to get hit by beings close to his speed). Either he purposely allowed himself to get hit (which is character), his speed and reflexes were turned OFF for the sake of the plot, or the characters were close to his speed or faster.

Since you are arguing character then you must believe that former, Superman purposely gets hit. If so, then he will purposely get hit here as well (maybe to gauge Thanos power). But make no mistake, Superman can and will turn on the speed at any time during the match.

Why would Thanos crush Superman if he uses his speed? What good are reactions when Thanos is too slow. Superman can literally move more than 5ft before Thanos can move an inch. What good are reactions then?

Lastly, how would Thanos crush Superman if speed was equal? Superman will start weaker than Thanos due to holding back but will eventually surpass him when he sees the Titan's power. Superman that's not holding back is stronger than Thanos. If you disagree then you don't know Superman's feats at all. Yes I know Thanos strength feats. His highest ones are beating on Surfer and grappling with Drax to make a planet destroy itself.

The problem with you is that when you see Superman holding up the weight of a galaxy with his fingernail in a comic you think that is high end non holding back superman, Instead of what it actually is. STUPID WRITING.

Highest feat (strength wise) of Superman are far above Thanos, but I don't think today Superman is that strong as he was before (even if not holding back).

Originally posted by Inhuman
The problem with you is that when you see Superman holding up the weight of a galaxy with his fingernail in a comic you think that is high end non holding back superman, Instead of what it actually is. STUPID WRITING.

Indeed.

I think that Superman could solo Thanos based on his abilities or someone like Flash (with his full power, full abilities, Thanos doesn't stand a chance), but all of them are not in the league of someone like Tyrant, no matter the feat, stupid writing etc...

Originally posted by Inhuman
The problem with you is that when you see Superman holding up the weight of a galaxy with his fingernail in a comic you think that is high end non holding back superman, Instead of what it actually is. STUPID WRITING.

Just to weigh in.

I've had several debates against h1 in the past, and yes, I have mocked him as well.

But.

His arguments are pretty solid, in this case.

Does Superman have superspeed in combat? Yes.
Is it faster than, say, Spiderman or Iron Fist in combat? Yes. which is to say, its Superspeed.
Does he use it? Well, when he knows who his opponent is, and what they can do, yes. BUT, a lot of the times, he does not.
Is he smart? Yes. To the point where, when he's getting creamed, he will use his advatanges.

Now.

When Silver Surfer/Gladiator/Flash fights someone, do THEY always use their speed? No.
Does that mean their opponents have superspeed on their level? Do Captain Cold, Mirror Master, the Trickster - do they have super reflexes? No.

In a forum, where PIS is turned off, then every character uses their full abilities. UNLESS they are hindered by CIS. But you'd have to be pretty stupid to be in a forum fight, be losing, and then go, you know what, all this punching so far is losing the battle for me....better keep going at the same rate just in case.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Just to weigh in.

I've had several debates against h1 in the past, and yes, I have mocked him as well.

But.

His arguments are pretty solid, in this case.

Does Superman have superspeed in combat? Yes.
Is it faster than, say, Spiderman or Iron Fist in combat? Yes. which is to say, its Superspeed.
Does he use it? Well, when he knows who his opponent is, and what they can do, yes. BUT, a lot of the times, he does not.
Is he smart? Yes. To the point where, when he's getting creamed, he will use his advatanges.

Now.

When Silver Surfer/Gladiator/Flash fights someone, do THEY always use their speed? No.
Does that mean their opponents have superspeed on their level? Do Captain Cold, Mirror Master, the Trickster - do they have super reflexes? No.

In a forum, where PIS is turned off, then every character uses their full abilities. UNLESS they are hindered by CIS. But you'd have to be pretty stupid to be in a forum fight, be losing, and then go, you know what, all this punching so far is losing the battle for me....better keep going at the same rate just in case.

Did you cover TP being an equalizer to speed?

Depends.

I have never thought that the speed of thought is all that. In fact, forum rules expressly define the speed of thought:

Concerning Superspeed
It's said that the speed of thought is about 30 m/s.
Note that it's meters per second, not miles
Reference:http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2002/DavidParizh.shtml
(Now this isn't in stone, if you feel you know something that you believe is better, then go with it).

30m/s...does not seem that fast. But it is what it is in the rules, I guess.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Depends.

I have never thought that the speed of thought is all that. In fact, forum rules expressly define the speed of thought:

30m/s...does not seem that fast. But it is what it is in the rules, I guess.

So do you actually believe that Superman would be able to outrun someone thinking about him? Real question here. We all know how durable Thanos is, so Superman is either going to one shot KO him where Thor's hammer shot failed to do so much as drop him to one knee, or he will be able to sink his mind claws into Superman before he drops this supposed beating on him. Let's not forget Superman's teammates because they're in this as well.

What stops Thanos from using that imaginative mind that has been displayed so often in comics to confuse Superman's team into believing that they are fighting against another opponent, while they fight amongst themselves? None of these guys are TP warriors on Thanos' level after all, so how do they resist him? CIS is when a guy capable of playing mind games on Galactus, fails to use his abilities to take over more than the Hulk's mind.

30 m/s is....only 108km/hr.

That's 67 miles per hour.

Do I believe Superman is faster than that? Erm....yes? Unless am missing something.

Was only pointing out that there is already a hard number in the forum rule list expressly defining the speed of thought. Use it as you will. I already said He-Man wins.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
30 m/s is....only 108km/hr.

That's 67 miles per hour.

Do I believe Superman is faster than that? Erm....yes? Unless am missing something.

Was only pointing out that there is already a hard number in the forum rule list expressly defining the speed of thought. Use it as you will. I already said He-Man wins.

So in other words you're skating around the idea. Those erm rules are pretty stupid when i can think about Jupiter in less than a second. So if I had the power to insta be wherever I think that I want to be (like Goku) does the rules still make sense to you?

i also believe that those rules were formed around the example that I just made, which has nothing to do with guys standing beside Thanos. He-Man is also not what he used to be in the Pre Crisis era. So how does he resist Thanos' TP? Where have you ever seen He-Man in modern comics stop a TP assault from a guy on Thanos' level? he really doesn't have any feats above the strongest people on his team does he? What stops Thanos from placing him in a solid cube of force? Thor was unable to get out of it, and he had the Power Gem. This team should lose, because Thanos has all of their numbers in terms of pure ability.

If you want to go against the rules, go ahead. Call them stupid all you like, but they are what they are. Superman will be able to outrace 30m/s.

Don't hate the player.

Got proof that He-man was retconned by the Crisis? Including the ones from Dark Horse, Marvel, et al?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
If you want to go against the rules, go ahead. Call them stupid all you like, but they are what they are. Superman will be able to outrace 30m/s.

Don't hate the player.

Got proof that He-man was retconned by the Crisis? Including the ones from Dark Horse, Marvel, et al?

Well when was the last time that he resisted TP assault from someone in Thanos' TP range. Show me He-Man being able to burst out of something that only Odin has been able to burst out of. Is He0Man now on this level? The burden of proof in this case lies with you, because that's quite a pill to swallow. You will need to prove this because as we both know He-Man could easily outdo a strength feat placed by Luke Cage, but when you start to move up in power between PG Thor, and Odin proof must be brought forth.

As for the speed of thought. How does Superman outrace what he can not see, or detect with any of his physical senses? DS a little respect here, don't try to play me for a dummy. Being deceitful over something as small as fiction is well... you know. If you don't believe that Superman can resist TP capable of playing head games with Galactus just say so, but let's not play this ring around the rose tree game that you've got in play. You simply didn't think of Thanos' other abilities before weighing in. It's never too late to jump overboard, and join the Thanos bandwagon.

Lol, I did consider all of his powers, and you know what?

Superman has lifted the Earth, so we know he can do it. Superman throws the Earth into the Sun at superspeed, and Thanos dies.

Is it in character? Nope. Is it against our rules of CIS? Yes. But apparently, rules mean little to you.

So Superman has superspeed. Flies out, and punches Thanos out of the ring. At superspeed. He's not consciously outracing something he cannot see or sense (LOL, great point there), he's just happening to be punching Thanos a far distance away.

Will Thanos teleport back? Doubtful, as he hasn't teleported since he got brought back from the dead. Burden of proof is on you to show that he still can, with recent scans of him post-resurrection.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol, I did consider all of his powers, and you know what?

Superman has lifted the Earth, so we know he can do it. Superman throws the Earth into the Sun at superspeed, and Thanos dies.

Is it in character? Nope. Is it against our rules of CIS? Yes. But apparently, rules mean little to you.

So Superman has superspeed. Flies out, and punches Thanos out of the ring. At superspeed. He's not consciously outracing something he cannot see or sense (LOL, great point there), he's just happening to be punching Thanos a far distance away.

Will Thanos teleport back? Doubtful, as he hasn't teleported since he got brought back from the dead. Burden of proof is on you to show that he still can, with recent scans of him post-resurrection.

In his entire history he has been able to teleport, but since he has not done so he no longer has the ability? Since when is the sun going to kill somone capable of surviving a super black hole and only getting scratches from it? If you knew anything about Thanos' powers you would know that killing him is next to impossible, unless Death....

I asked you to prove that He-Man was in Odin's class of strength, you decide to play you red herring cards. This is indicative of someone with a large ego problem, and who enjoys getting themselves dirty over fictitious debates.

We've come full circle on the fact that Superman will not be able to know that Thanos is playing the mind whammy on him. We came full circle that you have no proof that He-Man would be able to burst out of his force cubes, and we already know that Thor can't. So all that's left are the non essentials that are one shot killed by Thanos giving him the victory here. Nice playing with you, but you should have switched sides. The air is much sweeter on the Thanos side of this debate. You may still have time to embrace his truth.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
Thanos wins, not really even a contest

Originally posted by Insane Titan
Honestly don't see Thanos beating Superman 10/10 or easily at that.

He gets a good/high majority , but Clsrk gives a good fight

Originally posted by Insane Titan
how is it two different answers butthurt boy?

Thanos still wins the vast majority as I said.

It's nice you searched the thread for my posts though , aww did I get to you fat Ken?

I read a thread created a few days against from start to finish, ugly Mike. Your memory is so bad you even argue against yourself. Profiling your betrayal.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Look at the words you use. Thanos wins no contest against a team which consists of Superman plus the others. Then less than a few days later you say Thanos can't even defeat Superman easily but he gets the high majority. You are arguing against yourself. No contest means easily. Don't use words you don't mean for future purposes.

I read a thread created a few days against from start to finish, ugly Mike. Your memory is so bad you even argue against yourself. Profiling your betrayal.

Easy one shotting people . Winning the high majority but having to work to win the fight isn't unheard of.

Haha ugly, let's see your pic fat boy hillbilly.

Stick to following me around in threads

True, he does not die. Just gets BFR'd. I concede that point!

Ego problem? You only ever seem to dodge points, and fling mud. This is the third encounter I've had with you - the first, on whether WBH is applicable for WWH (and we know how that turned out), second, on PM vs Supergirl (with a subsequent comic showing Supergirl blitzing Superman, which I didn't post so as not to bump the thread) and third, this.

In all three, you start getting aggressive when people disagree with you. Still no counter to the initial post by h1a8, which is apparently 'full circle' for you (maybe your circles are actually spirals?).

1. Prove that when Surfer et al attack Thanos, they are using their full speed. Should be simple, right? This would prove conclusively that Thanos would pimphand Superman away, and I will shut up about it.

2. You seem to have ignored this, however, and now turn to TP, rather than physical. So prove that the TP would be faster than 30m/s as LAID OUT IN THE FORUM RULES. Again, simple.

Until then, anything else is just you typing a load of galaxy-level fluff.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
do you know the difference between what I said ?

Easy one shotting people . Winning the high majority but having to work to win the fight isn't unheard of.

Haha ugly, let's see your pic fat boy hillbilly.

Stick to following me around in threads

I already posted it. You called me fat. 😂

This is a current thread in which you perjured yourself. I profiled it for all time.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Not even a contest against a team which consists of Superman means a stomp. Not even a contest means it isn't close. Then you say Superman alone gives him hell and that he can win some. Your betrayal has been profiled.

I already posted it. You called me fat. 😂

This is a current thread in which you perjured yourself. I profiled it for all time.

Betrayal!! Are you 5 yrs old.

Yeah sure you did , yeah because you're fat .

Of course you did , being sad like that is what you do

Originally posted by Insane Titan
says who? You lol.

Betrayal!! Are you 5 yrs old.

Yeah sure you did , yeah because you're fat .

Of course you did , being sad like that is what you do

No, I'm not. Seeing you use statements you don't know the mining of I should ask you the same question.

The pic I posted I look skinny only someone who doesn't understand what fat means would say fat. Words are so confusing.

😂

Your insults don't even make sense.