Originally posted by Stoic
Superman could blitz, and he could run into a well placed containment force cube. Thanos did this to the Fallen One. This is something that we already covered. Thanos actually has on panel super speed hand movement. Unless when he grabbed the Thing, and swung him around causing a blurring effect wasn't canon. If it is canon, there is plenty of proof to state that he could raise his hand as fast as it would take for Superman to close the distance, and complete this blitz.
Although Superman is much faster than Thanos can move his hands (can move more than 5ft before Thanos moves an inch), I'll entertain it for a minute that he isn't.
How is Superman going to run into anything given his reflexes? Superman will see Thanos moving in slow motion or stopped time.
Superman isn't going to bullrush Thanos with his eyes closed. So even if Superman if preceding forward and sees Thanos arm moving in slow motion to blast Superman slightly alters his path to avoid it (but really Superman pops him before his arm can even get up).
You have yet to prove that Fallen One can move as fast as Superman within that 3 meters of travel. Because traveling at light speed after miles of acceleration doesn't prove it.
All that I am saying is that, if Thanos is able to trap Superman, he could then assault him with magic, and TP. This will be able to stop Superman. Magus had an incomplete Infinity Gauntlet, but he was still far more powerful than Superman. We know that a hit from the IG of that era was capable of completely fracturing Captain America's shield, which was something nearly unheard of at that time. You asking me to prove that Magus hit him with enough power to kill Superman, is like me asking you to prove that Superman would be able to successfully blitz Thanos. Or that if Superman launched a barrage against Thanos that it would be impossible for Thanos to counter the assault. Helspont was able to counter, why wouldn't Thanos be able to do the same? You seem to be dealing in absolutes, when all we have, and can work with are probabilities.
An experienced IG (or incomplete) wielder has complete control over the amount of power he/she can exert. That means they can regulate the power. Otherwise, Namor, She Hulk, Drax, etc would have been disintegrated by getting hit with it. Magus intentionally regulated the power because he didn't want to kill Thanos. He wanted Thanos to admit something. Otherwise, if Magus wanted Thanos dead then it would be nothing Thanos can do about it. Thanos would die in 1 punch if Magus wanted it to be.
Based on what has been seen of Superman of the DCnU, he has done nothing to suggest that he would defeat Thanos. I however did see him get rocked by someone less powerful than Thanos, when Helspont easily defeated him. Helspont wasn't as fast as Superman, nor was it because Superman allowed himself to be hit. DCnU Superman does not possess cosmic awareness, or a spider sense, he can be hit, he has been hit, and he will be hit again, and it will happen when he fights guys slower than he is. Live with it, or don't, it doesn't mean that it won't happen again.
Showings were characters aren't fighting to the best of their abilities doesn't support FULL CAPACITY. It's rather lowballing. Superman has speed and reflexes. He will use them here to the best of his ability as shown in comics before.
Lifting what was said to be the weight of the Earth for a week, while not actually seeing him lift a planet on panel seems a little suspect to me. i mean how strong was the metal, is there a metal in DCnU that could take the strain? I'm not going to attempt to nullify the feat because it was stated on panel, bu it seems pretty stupid to me in terms of how they decided to showcase the feat. Thanos has no lifting feats, because they have never written him in this simplistic light. However he shrugs off hits from guys that are Earth shakers, and Earth breakers.
So called Earth shakers or Earth breakers never hit or blast which such power in over 99% of their showings. Just because Gladiator leveled a planet with mere punches doesn't mean that everytime you see him in a comic punch someone, that he is punching with that same amount of force. Otherwise, we would have meta beings with planet destroying durability. My point is that Superman is more than strong enough to affect Thanos. That means with a sufficient amount of hard strikes, Superman can ko Thanos. Writer's intentions are what counts, except if it goes against what is shown (then it is now debatable). Superman's feat doesn't go against what was shown, so it counts.
DCnU Superman didn't do so well against DCnU Darkseid, he was actually taken out very early in the storyline/arc. Darkseid isn't a speedster, he was just able to take anything Superman could dish. It's the same principle with Thanos, and Quicksilver (just an example btw). Pietro is much faster, and he could hit Thanos many times, but what happens when Thanos launches an omnidirectional attack against him? Even a glancing hit would cool Pietro out. It isn't like Superman can read the future, he can't, nor can Pietro.
This is not a comic book. Fights will go down according to forum rules: No PIS, Full capacity, etc.
If Thanos is able to take one hit from the Magus with the IG, he could likey withstand a barrage from Superman until he was able to launch an assault of his own (based on implied power). You see I can understand Superman beating the mess out of a superior opponent that lacks the wits to use their power to the fullest, but when you talk about Thanos, you're talking about a character that is dangerous due to his mind, not his durability, or his power output. Thanos is more likely to play mental chess with the six of these guys than beat them fairly. When I think of Thanos I think of a really powerful Batman with no qualms against crossing the line. Doomsday is nothing compared to his original self. Not impressed. As for me having a lack of respect for Superman, this is not true. I like the character, I also like the Hulk, but he would never beat Thanos, unless we are talking about HOTM Hulk fighting him up close without any plot devices to get in the way. Even that is a maybe, because the current Thanos has yet to lose outside of some plot device.
HOTM would literally disintegrate Thanos with a single punch. Thanos doesn't have more than billions times the durability of Savage Hulk. And disintegrate is the worst. 1000 times less than that is still a death. That means HOTM Hulk can kill Thanos with thousands of times less force than he can possibly exert with a single hit.
DD broke Diana's bones when blocking his attack. That is mad strength. The original DD can't do that (I don't think).
Thanos will have no time to think here. He can't blast anyone here under full capacity since no one is going to sit there and allow it to happen (they would be making evasive maneuvers). Thanos can't attack and defend at the same time. He would get overwhelm very fast and easily. The first hit would put Thanos at a disadvantage. The only way Thanos has a chance is if the characters have PIS, stop attacking, and stop moving and allow Thanos to make some moves of his own (to be fair lol).
Thanos is a plot character, you will likely never see him taking the short end of the stick, without extracting his own pound of flesh in exchange. He will always come out the winner (most likely), because of this. His track record speaks for itself. People compare Darkseid to Thanos, but Darkseid is a loser to be honest, he always loses (shrug). Thanos wins.
Track record means shit. It doesn't prove a character won't be a statue to another character.
