Originally posted by carthage
Vitiate has no speed feats that rival his
Originally posted by carthage
no combat showings to prove he can match his speed
Originally posted by carthage
and his TK feats are inferior
Originally posted by carthage
Vitiate gets wtfpwned.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
And Tenebrous is faster than that. Also, why do you think Vitiate is as fast as the Hero? Hell, why does it matter since he doesn't use a lightsaber anyway?
This is the exact same as your first point. Phrasing the same point slightly differently is a poor attempt at fooling someone into thinking you have more of an argument than you actually do.
Tenebrous moved faster than Plagueis who appeared as a bolt of red lightning, moved faster than II4D could perceive with advanced photo receptors, and still Plagueis had to call upon the force to keep up with him. Vitiate has nothing even remotely close to that showing, eat a bag of feces if you really think HOT can match either of those speed feats
This is debatable. Vitiate's lightning feats are better though
Vitiate's lightning wont come into play, Tenebrous can either absorb it, block it with a saber, or his speed can just outright blitz him.
An argument can be made for either one of these guys winning, but suggesting that either of them gets wtfpwned is just stupid.
Vitiate without prep or amp is featless. Tenebrous annihilates him
Originally posted by carthage
Tenebrous moved faster than Plagueis who appeared as a bolt of red lightning, moved faster than II4D could perceive with advanced photo receptors, and still Plagueis had to call upon the force to keep up with him. Vitiate has nothing even remotely close to that showing, eat a bag of feces if you really think HOT can match either of those speed feats
I'm not arguing Vitiate is faster by any means, just that his reaction time is sufficient enough for him fend off Tenebrous with his force powers to the point where he wouldn't be blitzed.
Originally posted by carthage
Vitiate's lightning wont come into play
Originally posted by carthage
Tenebrous can either absorb it
Originally posted by carthage
block it with a saber
Originally posted by carthage
or his speed can just outright blitz him.
Originally posted by carthage
Vitiate without prep or amp is featless. Tenebrous annihilates him
Nobody is getting annihilated here.
IIRC Plagueis moved faster than 114D could keep up with years after Tenebrous's death.I'm not arguing Vitiate is faster by any means, just that his reaction time is sufficient enough for him fend off Tenebrous with his force powers to the point where he wouldn't be blitzed.
His reaction time isn't sufficient, and or HOT's speed tier is a class beneath Tenebrous's to make this musing irrelevant. Plagueis is faster than Hero, and Tenebrous is faster than Plagueis (at that point in time). Vitiate would not be able to react to someone who is faster than HOT.
It's his go-to force attack, of course it will come into play.
Irrelevant because Tenebrous can absorb it with his lightsaber 👆
because that was super easy for Revan and the Strike Team.
(nonsarcastic version: It wtfpwned the Strike Team and stopped Revan dead in his tracks.)
Tenebrous is faster and there is no way to correspond that occasion in a what if scenario with Tenebrous's lightsabor absorbing it.
He's definitely better with prep and an amp, but that does not invalidate his power. He is described as a supremely powerful Sith Lord and has numerous accolades for his power. He is not weak no matter how much you want him to be.Nobody is getting annihilated here.
Feats >> meaningless accolades
Vitiate has nothing to suggest he can even react to Tenebrous, and he is featless without prep so this is a slaughterhouse for Tenebrous. Vitiate gets blitzed and destroyed