Why I think Vitiate may be the most powerful Sith ever

Started by Beniboybling21 pages

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
You're the one claiming a single a bolt of Lightning can one shot groups, Beni.
Lol, OK.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Can you prove [your] account of the event in question?
You have an alternative explanation?
How so?

Force-users can accomplish a difficult task more effectively through collective effort.

You will find one example in this footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_aGC2rVm0s (3:47 - 3:57)

A Strike Team of competent Force-users should not be underestimated.

Collective attack =/= collective defense.
How the hell can you assert with certainty that a single bolt of Palpatine's Lightning would be sufficient to disarm one of them?
Erm...

vs.

👆

Revan failed to deflect Vitiate's Force Storm.
Cool.
I believe that Palpatine would (decisively) defeat the duo of Lord Scourge and Meetra Surik in a confrontation. I expect the same from Vitiate.

However, when we are talking about the trio of Revan, Lord Scourge and Meetra Surik, than the situation changes considerably. Revan is an absolute powerhouse and his support will be invaluable to his allies in a confrontation.

Vitiate was powerful enough to tackle the aforementioned trio as well but possibility of his defeat couldn't be ruled out nonetheless. Palpatine is unlikely to do better in his position either.

Ok then.
Palpatine comfortably defeated the duo of Savage Opress and Darth Maul. However, if Revan was in the picture and supporting the aforementioned duo, do you think that his support wouldn't have made much difference?
Not enough to net a win.
Revan have some:

A SOR Revan feat that doesn't even compare anyway.
A Starkiller-level showing.
Another SOR Revan feat, and a dubious one at that.
Point is that Revan isn't far behind Yoda in strength as you originally asserted.
Nah, he is.

Beni lowballing hard.

It feels good. 🙂

Like, do you not understand that Vitiate didn't instantly overwhelm Braga and the HoT because he was doing a Force Storm and thus his lightning was spread out over a wide area instead of focused and thus comparing it to Sidious disarming Yoda and straining Windu is completely stupid and that when he did focus his power he pwned them all or are you just pretending not to get that fact?

Fo real, overwhelming 5 of the most powerful Jedi in the galaxy at the same time is beyond anything Sidious has done with lightning. One of Sidious' best feats is him overwhelming 2 powerful force users at once, let alone 5.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Yeah the guy that Sidious had choking on ozone, and the guy he disarmed.

Point being that your comparison between the strike team and yoda/windu is sort of unfounded given the respective ease with which Vitiate and Sidious dispatched them.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Bringing it back to what's actually be discussed, Revan didn't have much trouble deflecting and redirecting his lightning bolts.

Yeah. Literally 3 bolts of lightning, one at a time. Lmao. When Vitiate actually, y'know, ramped up the intensity, Revan got phucked instantly.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Reasons he'd manage as well against Sidious where Yoda failed?

Uh, if Sidious fired 3 bolts at Revan, one at a time, (like Vitiate did,) I'm pretty sure Revan would bat them aside with ease. Hell, I'd be willing to bet he wouldn't get instantly overwhelmed by Sidious's lightning as he was with Vitiate.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Apologies, I was referring to the others, Braga and the HoT are legit but when the rest are scrubs who aren't even on level with Ventress. Why do I make this comparison? Because to Sidious Ventress is a speck, and he'd dispatch her as such. These guys are worse that specks.

That leaves Braga and the HoT, and if Palpatine's lighting can overwhelm Windu's Vaapad and insta-disarm Yoda, they would not be capable of withstanding his power as they did Vitiate's.

Lmfao. As Neph said, the lightning attack Vitiate used against the strike team was a spread out storm, which wouldn't be as individually effective as a concentrated stream. We've seen what Vitiate can do when he focuses his lightning like Sidious:
-oneshot Revan
-oneshot strike team
-oneshot Darth Marr
-oneshot Arcann
-overwhelm Arcann's staunch force defense, despite being weaker and in an inferior vessel. In the process, the residual lightning from his directed blast knocks out ships and kills hundreds of people, and seemingly creates storms throughout the sky.

And you're acting like they "withstood" his power as if he wanted to kill them and was thus using his full power.

You're a beautiful person, Skillz. 👆

Thanks, friend. I will always carry Vitiate's banner. 🙂

He has the true avatar of dark side supremacy in his banner and avatar however

Meh, that's just guilty pleasure. He will always truly wank Vitiate just like you will wank Bane no matter how much you wanna deny it.

Supremacy is the greatest state of being. 🙂

Indeed. The more the Sith Emperor is wanked, the more Sidious' accolades get impressive. I'm getting double pleasure out of it. 🙂

Valkorion is obviously not a Sith Lord. 🙂

the paine in this thread makes my will to live grow 🙂 🙂 🙂

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Valkorion is obviously not a Sith Lord. 🙂
I accept that he stopped being Sith after Ziost. We are talking about pre ziost here.

Valkorion existed before Ziost.

And yet Vitiate didn't stop being a Sith completely until Ziost.

Kek, they're the same person, so that legit makes no sense. He cast being a Sith away centuries ago. Accept this.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Kek, they're the same person, so that legit makes no sense. He cast being a Sith away centuries ago. Accept this.

Jedi Dooku and Sith Dooku are the same person as well. So is Anakin Skywalker and Darth Vader or A'Sharad Hett and Darth Krayt.

Nah, we talked about this before. In the dialogue we understand that he had a visible change in character right after Ziost. Of course he was more than a Sith centuries before Ziost, but its no like he was %100 committed to Zakuul and didn't give any shits about his other Empire.