Originally posted by playa1258That wasn't a fair fight and he just crash landed. He was also weapon less makin that irrelevant to the fight here. Palpatine has his saber and lost. Fair and square.
Against Windu, one of the greatest fighters ever produced by the Jedi Order.Khan got his ass beat by a pointy-eared genius and some anorexic she boon.
Khan mows him down, easily.
Originally posted by quanchi112You are a moron of epic levels. This is getting embarrassing already. I said Dooku crushing the bottom of the pillar making it fall over on Anakin and Kenobi was nigh instantly. He raises his hand.. the huge pillar at the bottom is crushed and it falls towards them. I'm only referring to his gesture and what we see. Not how long it takes objects to fly across the room. That is a whole other matter. The point is, when a Jedi raises his hand.. the action usually occur right after and very quickly. That's the only thing we are talking about. Not how fast they can make the objects fly. That is a whole other matter. The point is, crushing can be almost instant. If Palps or Anakin or anybody try and crush.. there is no big delay or even a long delay. In fact, it happens very quickly. That is the point that seemed to go right over your head
I always said he can force push instantly. 😂The bottom of the pillar on Anakin takes 2:45-2:48/9 for Yoda to stop it. That's multiple seconds to get to the target. That isn't instant. 😂 it's longer if we count by when Dooku raises his arm and concentrates.
2:51-:2:53 we see the next object hurled. The object wasn't hurling at light speeds and someone can just dodge or shoot him while he's focusing on tossing something at you. 😂
3:02-3:07 for the ceiling feat. Khan could obliterate him multiple times while he's just standing there vulnerable doing so. This is getting hilarious.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BvnwLLXHabg
At one point should I tell you what instantly means.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiYou are a liar.
You are a moron of epic levels. This is getting embarrassing already. I said Dooku crushing the bottom of the pillar making it fall over on Anakin and Kenobi was nigh instantly. He raises his hand.. the huge pillar at the bottom is crushed and it falls towards them. I'm only referring to his gesture and what we see. Not how long it takes objects to fly across the room. That is a whole other matter. The point is, when a Jedi raises his hand.. the action usually occur right after and very quickly. That's the only thing we are talking about. Not how fast they can make the objects fly. That is a whole other matter. The point is, crushing can be almost instant. If Palps or Anakin or anybody try and crush.. there is no big delay or even a long delay. In fact, it happens very quickly. That is the point that seemed to go right over your head
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiThat is your quote. Now you say nigh instantly because I timed out these laughable feats. Dooku has to point aim and it takes seconds to hit the target. Hell, anyone could shoot the guy if he drops his guard and starts ripping structures out of the wall or ceiling to use it as projectiles.
We literally see Palps throwing senate pods as he's levitating some in mid air behind him. Takes no time. We see Dooku in this clip throwing objects with mere hand movements. We see him force crush the bottom of a pillar and tries to make it fall on Kenobi and Anakin... It was instant
It isn't instantly. So should I go through and time how long it takes to point at the object. I guess that's what you're saying is they can do this to people despite this very Jedi being held captive by Hondo. He possesses no force powers yet not once did he simply crush the laughable pirate or at least threaten this tactic as leverage to release him.
It still takes time and we have never ever seen a Jedi nigh insta crush anyone who opposed. We see Obi use his force powers as do we Windu to get his saber back. He can't just crush because as I said a laser being shot takes much less time than aiming at someone and concentrating.
How that point keeps flying over your head is beyond me.
Dooku has to aim and concentrate as opposed to Khan who aims and fires multiple blasts far faster.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You are leaving out the context. Khan didn't have either of his guns there and just crash landed. Palpatine lost a fair fight in which he was armed against Windu.😱
Palpatine threw the fight to turn Anakin into Darth Vader whom he knew was coming due to his telepathic connection to him. Wrong again.
Originally posted by AncientPowerNo, he did not. You are lying. Palpatine after he lost feigned weakness to gain sympathy to better manipulate Anakin due to his current situation.
Palpatine threw the fight to turn Anakin into Darth Vader whom he knew was coming due to his telepathic connection to him. Wrong again.
🙂
Feel free to prove your claim.
Originally posted by quanchi112
His videos backed my claim. Pointing, focusing, and still needing time is far slower than an expert super soldier aiming and firing futuristic weapons.🙂
Incorrect, the video shows the ceiling cracking right as Dooku uses the force. You were wrong and posted a vid that didn't support your claims. Everyone laughed.
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, he did not. You are lying. Palpatine after he lost feigned weakness to gain sympathy to better manipulate Anakin due to his current situation.🙂
Feel free to prove your claim.
Nice interpretation you troglodyte, so he can effortlessly speedblitz Kit Fisto, Saesee Tiin and Agen Kolar, then a day later fight Yoda and win, whom is far more skilled and powerful than Mace Windu.
Yet your interpretation which ignored Lucas statements on the matter maintains the idea Windu could defeat Sidious when Windu was clearly losing the fight and despite the fact Sidious could defeat Yoda? This is the highest order of bias and stupidity.
Originally posted by RobtardHe has to point and focus.
Incorrect, the video shows the ceiling cracking right as Dooku uses the force. You were wrong and posted a vid that didn't support your claims. Everyone laughed.
3:01-3:03. He has to lift his arms up, point and focus. 2 seconds. That's awful.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BvnwLLXHabg
While he does so he leaves himself wide open to attacks. Evidence speaks for itself.
😂
Originally posted by AncientPowerWindu beat him Yoda didn't. He also didn't kill Yoda he just sent him off the pod. Lucas has stated Windu win the fight. You making something up because you're unhappy with Palaptine losing is your problem.
Nice interpretation you troglodyte, so he can effortlessly speedblitz Kit Fisto, Saesee Tiin and Agen Kolar, then a day later fight Yoda and win, whom is far more skilled and powerful than Mace Windu.Yet your interpretation which ignored Lucas statements on the matter maintains the idea Windu could defeat Sidious when Windu was clearly losing the fight and despite the fact Sidious could defeat Yoda? This is the highest order of bias and stupidity.
Lol Lucas said in earlier versions of the fight that Windu defeats him in a lightsaber duel and then Palpatine uses his lightning which Windu couldn't handle. Emphasis on earlier versions, I'd know I've been debating Star Wars for fifteen years.
That earlier version of the fight is in the ROTS novelisation, if you want to open up that door then please allow me to humiliate you even further.
Oh and Yoda is second to none, Windu is however second to Yoda, if you knew anything about Star Wars (this is a recurring theme) you would already know that.
Originally posted by AncientPowerIn the film we see him handle the lightning. Palpatine gets scarred. 💃
Lol Lucas said in earlier versions of the fight that Windu defeats him in a lightsaber duel and then Palpatine uses his lightning which Windu couldn't handle. Emphasis on earlier versions, I'd know I've been debating Star Wars for fifteen years.That earlier version of the fight is in the ROTS novelisation, if you want to open up that door then please allow me to humiliate you even further.
Oh and Yoda is second to none, Windu is however second to Yoda, if you knew anything about Star Wars (this is a recurring theme) you would already know that.
Final version, sport.
Windu beat Palpatine. abc logic. Different fighting styles and environment. Windu won. Fact.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Huh? His speed is very well known and verified via on panel feats and power scaling.
What on panel feats?
For example, The three acclaimed jedi we see him blitz are some of the best the order had to offer. We see Fisto in AOTC arena scene and a few episodes of the TV series where he displays quick reactions to laser fire and sword play. The other two have minor roles in the series. Again though, these are some of the best the order had to offer. So if Jedi's naturally come with enhanced speed and stats, these three would likely be a decent amount quicker than even that. Guess what, Sids, blitzed them before they could really react. Fisto was able to block a strike, maybe two before being killed. Point is, that is the speed we are talking about here.
So just to be clear, you are saying jedi whom we've seen do nothing..are the best the order has to offer. At least Fisto has a scene in AOTC, but he doesn't show any impressive speed. Or really do anything impressive in any movie.
Let's not forget how Anakin (the chosen one with the most potential) could even perceive the fight between Sids and Mace. that's is how fast they were moving. For somebody who can keep up with Dooku and fight him, beat him even, not to be able to see them fight because of their speed is very telling.
This is not Dragonball Z, Palpatine and Mace were not moving at super speed during their fight. Is this seriously how most people here think of Star Wars?
We all see Sids speed on full display in his fights with Maul and Savage.. and even yoda. His speed is vastly superior to Kahn's, and of that there can be no doubt.
So in other words you need to dip into non movie feats.