Khan Noonien Singh vs. Palpatine

Started by quanchi11293 pages

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
lol you proved nothing in that thread except that you are a liar. Lied about the night vision (which is not even close to the only thing you have zero proof for that Khan is superior to Riddick eg. survivalist, ability as an escape artist, the very relevant to that fight, knife fighting etc. just to name three off the top of my head. Being superhuman also does not make you automatically superior in every way to an Alpha Furyan. And I assume Khan also has a never before seen ability like Wrath of the Furyans right?). Also lied about onscreen feats claiming he singlehandedly took down the Klingons when we see the others take down a couple. And then lied when you claimed his few seconds of knife fighting put him above Riddick in that department, when Riddick has done all that he did and more, over the space of multiple films. Everything you continued repeating I had already countered in previous posts (such as the fact that it was a blade fight, so discussing what he managed to shoot in the film was pointless), so why should I keep repeating myself when you refuse to listen? So no, you lost. Hell, even if I hadn't posted you still lost, because multiple others destroyed your claims in that thread. Anyone who bothers to read through it can see that. So I'm done with that. I'm just going to ingore your crying and attempts to repair your bruised ego from this point on. I don't have Rob's superhuman patience to indulge your need for attention.

lol nope. Khan gets disarmed by Sidious' force tk and ragdolled. And acting like Sidious is just a normal old man is a joke. We see in his fights, especially in his fights during the Clone Wars series, that he is far faster, stronger and more durable than he looks. But probably refusing the clone wars series as part of it right, because you know that with that extra material it would make this a stomp for Sidious.

Please cease with your emotional outbursts and pain over the Khan vs. Riddick thread you conceded to me like a gutless coward. Khan was superior in all facets of the game. He was a survivalist against the star fleet. That's vastly superior to the shitty threats Riddick was against in his universe. Riddick was also helped by multiple characters against the lord marshal and saved after vaako had defeated him by his fellow ex furyan.

Those also were [/B]Kirk's words in the film. [/B] let the rest go, boy.

Based on palpatine force disarming who ? You scripting the fight isn't a valid argument. His body is older and weaker due to being a geriatric. He can force amp his attacks but please he's up against someone with cellular regeneration and resiliency in spades. I accept that evidence. It's canon. Khan still wins. Sidious doesn't have the feats to stop someone of Khan's skill, firepower, ruthlessness coupled with his feats.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
How does that mean anything.mthe fact that he had no line of vision on them in fact not even seeing them before he walked in and choked them without hand gestures point or being able to choke the hell out of khan with no problem.

How will that affect this battle when all he needs to do is just quickly throw his hand up and push khan or choke him with no hand gestures.

He doesn't have one since Sidious has already disarmed him.

Khan can see palpatine in this thread and will be focusing on him. Those characters are not khan nor were they in this situation.

Based on what ? Khan fires in mid air. Watch his film. Palpatine might initiate an attack but one blast ends him.

Based on Sidious disarming who ?

Originally posted by The Scenario
And I also named a Jedi that can and has deflected blasts into people. Therefore Palpatine can too.

There's also Super Metroid on the Wii's Virtual Console. Or Zero Mission/Metroid Fusion for the Gameboy Advance. Pick a Metroid game, and I might just take you on.

But no one has deflected easily one of the most skilled bounty hunters in Jango so that isn't comparable to Khan. Hell, he isn't even able to do so to Khan's lesser and Palpatine's superior in Windu.

Nah, lame franchise.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
Hmmm, so the whole galactic empire thing could have been stopped early if someone only walked up to Palpatine and shot him with a gun?

Makes you wonder

No, you twit. First off no Joe Schmoe with a gun is Khan. Khan showed the cunning to set in motion a chance to strike admiral Marcus by initiating star fleet protocol by blowing up the archives. Palpatine was a hard man to get to but Yoda knew what moment he had to strike. He failed. Khan won't fail when he gets a one on one confrontation someone needs the foresight and the cunning to even set up. He also has the skill, firepower, and accuracy to pull it off

I'm ****ing good.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Khan can see palpatine in this thread and will be focusing on him. Those characters are not khan nor were they in this situation.

Based on what ? Khan fires in mid air. Watch his film. Palpatine might initiate an attack but one blast ends him.

Based on Sidious disarming who ?

How does change anything. Sidious can still doesn't even need to look at him to choke him. Before Khan even takes a weapon out or lifts his arm he is being choked. Then his weapons would already be out of his hand and he would then be shocked to a crisp.

Do I really need to show you a video of Darth Maul and Savage oppres vs Sidious where he not only chokes 4 guards and then force pushes both maul and savage quickly, people to have the power to speed blitz and then force push maul knocking him unconscious and then ragdoll him. What defense does khan have against that.

Based on how Dooku, someone below Sidious can do it to ventress easily with his hands, how yoda someone who is on or slightly less powerful than Sidious can do it to ventress. So disarming someone and then khan doesn't have a force wall, Sidious disarms khan with absolute ease.

Concession accepted as I know you can't counter any of these points.

Originally posted by Robtard
LoLz, anyhow. Vader blocking a shot aimed at his back without turning around in ROTS would be an example of Precog

YouTube video

@ 00:14 /example

I will give you a chance to rescind this laughable clip before I utterly thrash your ignorance.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
How does change anything. Sidious can still doesn't even need to look at him to choke him. Before Khan even takes a weapon out or lifts his arm he is being choked. Then his weapons would already be out of his hand and he would then be shocked to a crisp.

Do I really need to show you a video of Darth Maul and Savage oppres vs Sidious where he not only chokes 4 guards and then force pushes both maul and savage quickly, people to have the power to speed blitz and then force push maul knocking him unconscious and then ragdoll him. What defense does khan have against that.

Based on how Dooku, someone below Sidious can do it to ventress easily with his hands, how yoda someone who is on or slightly less powerful than Sidious can do it to ventress. So disarming someone and then khan doesn't have a force wall, Sidious disarms khan with absolute ease.

Concession accepted as I know you can't counter any of these points.

Whether he looks at him or not is irrelevant. The point I made is his focus must be maintained to continue the choke which leaves his focus divided and thus susceptible.

Absolutely. Khan can fire mid air and has cellular regenerative capabilities thus granting him superhuman resiliency.

They are disarming characters with light sabers. Khan doesn't have a lttile flash light saber he carries around. The Boolean gun is carried over a strap on his shoulder. He also has another phaser rifle and needs to maintain focus to even force push anything. That takes more time than Khan aiming and firing with multiple successive blasts.

Done and done.

Acquaint yourself with the character and quit arguing based off two swordsmen dueling each other with force owners. Moot points against Khan, boy.

Originally posted by quanchi112
But no one has deflected easily one of the most skilled bounty hunters in Jango so that isn't comparable to Khan. Hell, he isn't even able to do so to Khan's lesser and Palpatine's superior in Windu.

Nah, lame franchise.

But Windu is Khan's superior.

Nah, Samus > Khan. If you play a Metroid game I'll actually debate you seriouslyin this thread, btw.

Originally posted by The Scenario
But Windu is Khan's superior.

Nah, Samus > Khan. If you play a Metroid game I'll actually debate you seriouslyin this thread, btw.

That is unproven and doesn't undermine my point. Windu got the better of Palpatine. Fact. Windu was unable to deflect Jango's blasts.

Why waste my time ? The next game on my radar is witcher 3. I haven't gotten into it yet because once I do it's game over. Obsession will strike..

Originally posted by quanchi112
That is unproven and doesn't undermine my point. Windu got the better of Palpatine. Fact. Windu was unable to deflect Jango's blasts.

Why waste my time ? The next game on my radar is witcher 3. I haven't gotten into it yet because once I do it's game over. Obsession will strike..

Windu easily deflected Jango's blasts, actually.

If you're good enough, most Metroid games can be beaten in a few hours. Well, not the Prime series, obviously. How about this: You play a Metroid game, and I'll debate whatever Witcher 3 character you want against whatever Zelda character you want.

Originally posted by The Scenario
Windu easily deflected Jango's blasts, actually.

If you're good enough, most Metroid games can be beaten in a few hours. Well, not the Prime series, obviously. How about this: You play a Metroid game, and I'll debate whatever Witcher 3 character you want against whatever Zelda character you want.

Not back at him which is your original claim. Jango's jet
Ack also was damaged by the beast making it an unfair fight.

You really want a Samus debate that badly ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Not back at him which is your original claim. Jango's jet
Ack also was damaged by the beast making it an unfair fight.

You really want a Samus debate that badly ?

My original claim was also irrelevant to Windu.

I'm exactly that bored right now.

Originally posted by The Scenario
My original claim was also irrelevant to Windu.

I'm exactly that bored right now.

Then post a clip of Palpatine deflecting blasts into the person of someone comparable to Khan.

Why can't you get into sci fi movies ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Not based off of anything than your blatant famboyism.

TK + superior speed + precog.

Originally posted by Psychotron
TK + superior speed + precog.
We see Windu, Anakin, Obi, etc. all outmanned despite having a larger group of Jedi against the slower and less skilled droid army and they were still going to be overwhelmed. The entire Jedi group had tk, superior speed, and precog on these droids on top of skill in spades. But yet the result was the same. They needed Saving.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xmR1ee223zQ

They needed the clones to save them. I mean despite multiple Jedi including some of the greatest and they still needed saving despite a large group of Jedi alongside Padme against their for the most part pathetic droid army. Dooku didn't even have to get involved physically.

Khan wins. Droids, dude.

🙂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Then post a clip of Palpatine deflecting blasts into the person of someone comparable to Khan.

Why can't you get into sci fi movies ?

I can't really do that, sorry. How about Yoda?

Like what?

Originally posted by quanchi112
We see Windu, Anakin, Obi, etc. all outmanned despite having a larger group of Jedi against the slower and less skilled droid army and they were still going to be overwhelmed. The entire Jedi group had tk, superior speed, and precog on these droids on top of skill in spades. But yet the result was the same. They needed Saving.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xmR1ee223zQ

They needed the clones to save them. I mean despite multiple Jedi including some of the greatest and they still needed saving despite a large group of Jedi alongside Padme against their for the most part pathetic droid army. Dooku didn't even have to get involved physically.

Khan wins. Droids, dude.

🙂

What does a fight in which the Jedi are badly outnumbered have to do with this fight? Re-watch that scene and you'll notice even fodder Jedi taking out multiple droids.

Originally posted by The Scenario
I can't really do that, sorry. How about Yoda?

Like what?

This isn't Yoda though. You made the claim with Palpatine.

Any sci fi badass from films.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Whether he looks at him or not is irrelevant. The point I made is his focus must be maintained to continue the choke which leaves his focus divided and thus susceptible.

Absolutely. Khan can fire mid air and has cellular regenerative capabilities thus granting him superhuman resiliency.

They are disarming characters with light sabers. Khan doesn't have a lttile flash light saber he carries around. The Boolean gun is carried over a strap on his shoulder. He also has another phaser rifle and needs to maintain focus to even force push anything. That takes more time than Khan aiming and firing with multiple successive blasts.

Done and done.

Acquaint yourself with the character and quit arguing based off two swordsmen dueling each other with force owners. Moot points against Khan, boy.

Concession accepted you just approved that he doesn't need to see him so he can use it without vision. So he can just choke the hell out of khan. Whenever he is choking multiple opponents he shows very little need to concentrate occupying himself with other things, so he can definitely choke one little person with little to no thought.

https://youtu.be/-7hBZNsPnyg in this battle he does all that I have said.
With that I don't think his so called "accuracy" is going to help him when he can't even react.

You really think that makes any difference to Sidious. He doesn't care he just going to choke and then electrocute him. You've lost.

I don't need to apparently since Sidious ends this in 5 seconds.

Originally posted by quanchi112
This isn't Yoda though. You made the claim with Palpatine.

Any sci fi badass from films.

Alrighty then, how about lightning? Palpatine has done that to skilled opponents.

But there is no Metroid film.