Khan Noonien Singh vs. Palpatine

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
So Jedi who were able to block blaster fire from multiple opponents coming from multiple directions.. somehow.. someway weren't able to block Palps strikes. how could this be you ask? Because Sids is THAT fast and blitzed killed them. The only explanation for this is his speed and this is well documented. To ignore this showing speaks of how much of a moron you truly are. Should we count the seconds it takes Khan to think about firing... raising his guy to fire and then firing? Should we time that out? Guess what it will be exponentially slower than the speed used by Sids to take 3 of the most acclaimed jedi of the Order. Jedi with feats of speed that far surpass Khan. Yet they could do nothing about Sids blitzing them with speed.

SIDS beat three weaker Jedi at something he is better than them at; sword dueling. SIDS is a better swordsman than the three Jedi. He failed against Windu due to Windu being better than. Palaptine and disarming him.

Yes, we compare raising the gun to Palparine raising his hands. We don't ignore evidence. You want to because you're biased. I don't. I'm objective.

Originally posted by The Scenario
But their skill is totally incomparable, you said so yourself.

No one cares what's good according to you, though. You can't be objective if you won't even try.

I am objective as to who wins but I won't play or watch something I don't care about. Be real for a second.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Care to define the expression "watch the learn" ?

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Right again you are amazingly stupid and you have failed.

You are a fanboy for khan. Sidious has the force while khan has a gun. Which wins? It should be easy. The force wins 10/10 times. All Sidious has to do is choke him, then disarm him, then shock him with lightning, or throw his saber at him and impale him or speed blitz.

Jango killed a Jedi who has the force whereas he has a gun. Based off your logic I just broke your wheel.

Order 66 beat the force users down.

Khan crushes this force user.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I am debating based off the evidence which is also supported by the behavior of the character.

Jango killed a Jedi who has the force whereas he has a gun. Based off your logic I just broke your wheel.

Order 66 beat the force users down.

Khan crushes this force user.

You debate off of your own opinion. If you worked off evidence it would be clear that Sidious would slaughter Khan.

Blah blah blah. No one cares about Jango. Sidious would take out Jango easily just like he will khan.

Through surprise was it not?

Sidious wins. So I decree as I am Lord Sidious and I declare I the most powerful SITH lord of all time the winner.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
You debate off of your own opinion. If you worked off evidence it would be clear that Sidious would slaughter Khan.

Blah blah blah. No one cares about Jango. Sidious would take out Jango easily just like he will khan.

Through surprise was it not?

Sidious wins. So I decree as I am Lord Sidious and I declare I the most powerful SITH lord of all time the winner.

Windu didn't take out Jango that easily and he beat Palpatine.

😂

Yes, thus proving how ineffective Precog is. Thanks for admitting it.

You're a fanboy.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That the inferior clones were less than your average Jedi. We see highly skilled characters likes Jango and Pre Vizsla stalemating some of the best Jedi in Obi Wan. Also Cad Bane.

SIDS beat three weaker Jedi at something he is better than them at; sword dueling. SIDS is a better swordsman than the three Jedi. He failed against Windu due to Windu being better than. Palaptine and disarming him.

Yes, we compare raising the gun to Palparine raising his hands. We don't ignore evidence. You want to because you're biased. I don't. I'm objective.

Nope, it was his speed which has been well documented. Think about it.. If Mace and Windu were fighting at such speeds that Anakin couldn't even perceive the fight but only saw a haze.. What does that say? Even the Chosen one wasn't able to see how fast they were moving. THAT is how he beat them. Mace even had to break the window so rain could get on the floor to slow down his force enhanced speed. It's no wonder the Jedi got blitzed.. he's that fast.

you keep acting like because the Jedi were killed by Order 66 that this proves something in Khan's favor. It doesn't. Only a smuch faced moron would think such a thing. First off, they were betrayed and not expecting that to happen. In this fight.. Sids knows who he's fighting and won't be the least bit surprised by a betrayal. Second, you act like the Clones didn't have overwhelming numbers on their side, they did, and this aided in them accomplishing their goal. Khan is only one man.. not thousands of clones trying to eliminate the Jedi all over the place in surprise attacks. They aren't even comparable. As I said, only somebody who's looks are almost as grotesque as his debating skills would even think there was a comparison.

Let me ask you this... So you believe Khan is quicker than sids or Yoda in speed and reactions?

Originally posted by quanchi112
How can you say this when you haven't even seen the movie. You are debating off of evidence and bias. You admitted you haven't the foggiest of Khan yet reached your conclusion anyways.

Windu didn't take out Jango that easily and he beat Palpatine.

😂

Yes, thus proving how ineffective Precog is. Thanks for admitting it.

You're a fanboy.

Thanks for admitting it, I am debating off of evidence. Yes I have based off of what you said someone who knows about khan. You have given me nothing that even comes close to suggesting that khan has some type of defense to the force. Yoda and Sidious demolish Khan.

Sidious threw the fight first off, you abandoned are debate on that so I take it you concede. Jango has a jet pack and other weapons that windu doesn't and also the terrain where they were fighting. Also ultimately who won, windu.

Precog is a common ability and can be used when needed.

I know you are.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Nope, it was his speed which has been well documented. Think about it.. If Mace and Windu were fighting at such speeds that Anakin couldn't even perceive the fight but only saw a haze.. What does that say? Even the Chosen one wasn't able to see how fast they were moving. THAT is how he beat them. Mace even had to break the window so rain could get on the floor to slow down his force enhanced speed. It's no wonder the Jedi got blitzed.. he's that fast.

you keep acting like because the Jedi were killed by Order 66 that this proves something in Khan's favor. It doesn't. Only a smuch faced moron would think such a thing. First off, they were betrayed and not expecting that to happen. In this fight.. Sids knows who he's fighting and won't be the least bit surprised by a betrayal. Second, you act like the Clones didn't have overwhelming numbers on their side, they did, and this aided in them accomplishing their goal. Khan is only one man.. not thousands of clones trying to eliminate the Jedi all over the place in surprise attacks. They aren't even comparable. As I said, only somebody who's looks are almost as grotesque as his debating skills would even think there was a comparison.

Let me ask you this... So you believe Khan is quicker than sids or Yoda in speed and reactions?

Non force users got the drop on the entire weak order. They smoked them and forced Yoda into hiding. Very rarely does an entire Jedi order go down this quickly.

Overwhelming numbers from droids were about to overwhelm Windu, Anakin, Obi, etc. droids ...... 😂 😆

I believe Khan would annihilate the Sith or Jedi since Jango himself got over five blasts off on Palpatines superior. Khan would have a field day.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Thanks for admitting it, I am debating off of evidence. Yes I have based off of what you said someone who knows about khan. You have given me nothing that even comes close to suggesting that khan has some type of defense to the force. Yoda and Sidious demolish Khan.

Sidious threw the fight first off, you abandoned are debate on that so I take it you concede. Jango has a jet pack and other weapons that windu doesn't and also the terrain where they were fighting. Also ultimately who won, windu.

Precog is a common ability and can be used when needed.

I know you are.

Jango doesn't have a defense to the force yet he's killed a Jedi. Clones don't have a defense yet they massacred the order of Jedi.

Prove it. You didn't make any sense and didn't even know the word was spelled that way.

Windu won due to Jango's jet pack being destroyed by the beast. 😂

Delusional.

Originally posted by quanchi112
We are comparing their resilience and durability. That is comparable. Try to focus.

I am objective as to who wins but I won't play or watch something I don't care about. Be real for a second.

So I'm free to compare how Palpatine killed Windu with lightning?

So you can't be objective about a series' quality, got it.

Originally posted by The Scenario
So I'm free to compare how Palpatine killed Windu with lightning?

So you can't be objective about a series' quality, got it.

I can be objective but just because you don't agree that doesn't mean anything. Subjectivity isn't objectivity.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Anakin perceived the speed. What are you talking about ? Jango also got off over five blasts on Windu. He ran like a normal human would run up to him. It actually looked rather pedestrian. That's hard evidence not your inability to rely on the films and the depictions contained therein.

Non force users got the drop on the entire weak order. They smoked them and forced Yoda into hiding. Very rarely does an entire Jedi order go down this quickly.

Overwhelming numbers from droids were about to overwhelm Windu, Anakin, Obi, etc. droids ...... 😂 😆

I believe Khan would annihilate the Sith or Jedi since Jango himself got over five blasts off on Palpatines superior. Khan would have a field day.

Nope, he couldn't perceive them they were fighting so fast. That is speed that Khan could never even dream of replicating. Fact, Cry more about it.

Of course they were about to overwhelm them.. There were tens of thousands of them. I don't know how on earth you can think that is a low showing. Are you actually telling me that if Khan replaced the Jedi in the arena he wouldn't have been killed? Pray you're saying that. If not, then why bring it up? Overwhelming numbers are overwhelming numbers. They make a huge difference. Not sure how basic common sense alludes you so much. If you put Prime Anderson Silva in a big arena.. and had 200 of the weakest MMA fighters of any organization in there with him attack him.. they would win.. and easily. Does that make them better them him? Of course not. That is why I have no idea what kinda of lame comparison you're trying to make here. Khan would've been overwhelmed EXPONETIALLY faster than any of the Jedi were. That fight would've last a few seconds.

Who cares how many shots he got off.. they were all promptly blocked and deflected with ease. The same thing any good jedi would do to a blast from Kham.

Khan losses easily.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Nope, he couldn't perceive them they were fighting so fast. That is speed that Khan could never even dream of replicating. Fact, Cry more about it.

Of course they were about to overwhelm them.. There were tens of thousands of them. I don't know how on earth you can think that is a low showing. Are you actually telling me that if Khan replaced the Jedi in the arena he wouldn't have been killed? Pray you're saying that. If not, then why bring it up? Overwhelming numbers are overwhelming numbers. They make a huge difference. Not sure how basic common sense alludes you so much. If you put Prime Anderson Silva in a big arena.. and had 200 of the weakest MMA fighters of any organization in there with him attack him.. they would win.. and easily. Does that make them better them him? Of course not. That is why I have no idea what kinda of lame comparison you're trying to make here. Khan would've been overwhelmed EXPONETIALLY faster than any of the Jedi were. That fight would've last a few seconds.

Who cares how many shots he got off.. they were all promptly blocked and deflected with ease. The same thing any good jedi would do to a blast from Kham.

Khan losses easily.

In the scenes we saw there weren't tens of thousands so you're just making up scenes. We don't see that in the film. We see smaller numbers over take Jedi. Want to count them and see how prepared the Jedi were ? At no point do we see 200 clones against a single Jedi. You are lying and exaggerating the scenes we actually see. 😂

The amount of shots prove non force users can perceive and that the Jedi react at human speeds in that scene. If you can't grasp what you say is moronic and disproven by that scene then stretch your face even further in hopes you'll start learning things.

Who is Kham ?

Khan fires blasts far more powerful than what the jedis have been shown to deflect and dual guns. He puts down Windu's lesser in Palpatine quite easily.

Originally posted by quanchi112

Khan fires blasts far more powerful than what the jedis have been shown to deflect and dual guns.

Average Jedi can evade those blasts, with their pre-cog, superhuman leaps and speed.

But against Sidious? LMAO. Khan's weapons will be out of his hands and and he will be choking on the floor before he can even think. Just like the Mandalorians.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He puts down Windu's lesser in Palpatine quite easily.

😆

What a troll! What a fanboy!

Originally posted by quanchi112
Based on what ? Anakin was the guy who cut Windu's arm off.

In the scenes we saw there weren't tens of thousands so you're just making up scenes. We don't see that in the film. We see smaller numbers over take Jedi. Want to count them and see how prepared the Jedi were ? At no point do we see 200 clones against a single Jedi. You are lying and exaggerating the scenes we actually see. 😂

The amount of shots prove non force users can perceive and that the Jedi react at human speeds in that scene. If you can't grasp what you say is moronic and disproven by that scene then stretch your face even further in hopes you'll start learning things.

Who is Kham ?

Khan fires blasts far more powerful than what the jedis have been shown to deflect and dual guns. He puts down Windu's lesser in Palpatine quite easily.

Did you just cite cutting his arm off to prove he couldn't perceive them? one was him not being able to perceive them when they were using their enhanced speed during the actual fight. Another was once the fight was over.. mace was standing over Palps and Anakin blocked a single saber strike and cut his arm off. You actually think that is the same thing? LOL. No, when Anakin was perceiving them fighting he couldn't even see them.. they just appeared to be a hazy cloud to him.

That wasn't the question... The question was... no matter how many droids you think were there... If you put Khan in that scene instead of the Jedi are you claiming he wouldn't have also been overwhelmed?

how is blocking blaster fire perceiving things at a human level speeds? Are you even trying to make sense anymore. Blocking multiple blaster fire shots is now human level speed? WTF. you can't be this dumb. You just illustrated how he is actually perceiving things at far greater than human speed. No human would be able to block blaster fire of multiple shots. not happening. Were know what blasters are and Lucas and even Disney has specified how they work and how fast they are. No human could react to that. So what do you mean he was perceiving things at human level speed? That is beyond idiotic

Originally posted by quanchi112
What evidence are you debating off of ?

Jango doesn't have a defense to the force yet he's killed a Jedi. Clones don't have a defense yet they massacred the order of Jedi.

Prove it. You didn't make any sense and didn't even know the word was spelled that way.

Windu won due to Jango's jet pack being destroyed by the beast. 😂

Delusional.

The one you said I was using and the video from the clone wars.

Blah blah. Did windu use any offensive force powers against Jango? Offensive, not force pull or anything like that, force crush choke push or lightning?

Nothing in that sentence was spelled wrong so you must need glasses. It's described as a universal ability to both SITH and Jedi.

Still no force powers(offensively) were used, that's my point.

Yes you are delusional.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
The one you said I was using and the video from the clone wars.

Blah blah. Did windu use any offensive force powers against Jango? Offensive, not force pull or anything like that, force crush choke push or lightning?

Nothing in that sentence was spelled wrong so you must need glasses. It's described as a universal ability to both SITH and Jedi.

Still no force powers(offensively) were used, that's my point.

Yes you are delusional.

Why didn't Windu ? Are you suggesting he fights like an idiot with his life and others on the line ?

You're a fool.

Why not ? You're suggesting these guys hold back for some idiotic reason

Projecting.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Average Jedi can evade those blasts, with their pre-cog, superhuman leaps and speed.

But against Sidious? LMAO. Khan's weapons will be out of his hands and and he will be choking on the floor before he can even think. Just like the Mandalorians.

😆

What a troll! What a fanboy!

Those were featless warriors. Did maul easily take Pre Vizsla's weapon out of his hands ? Maul is superior to Opress but somehow the skill of a bounty hunter seems to matter.

Did Palpatine lose his own weapon in two fights in the film ? Yeppers.

You are a troll and a fanboy. You've already lied and ignored the Khan five blasts rebuttal that owned you, troll. I can't stomach lying trolls such as yourself.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I already debunked the timing and the irrelevancy of that when compared to Khan.

Why didn't Windu ? Are you suggesting he fights like an idiot with his life and others on the line ?

You're a fool.

Why not ? You're suggesting these guys hold back for some idiotic reason

Projecting.

How? As far as I'm concerned you've debunked nothing except your own arguments.

Am I mace windu/Samuel L. Jackson. How am I supposed to know why he didn't use his offensive force powers. The point is he didn't and with that you saying that that is similar to khan you are stupid. Sidious is using his offensive force powers while windu didn't.

I know you are.

How am I suggesting they hold back I'm just saying that they didn't use their force powers as windu didn't in his battle with Jango.