Originally posted by KingD19I have an iPad and have made the point clear what I can see and what I can't. If I can't see it I won't comment on it.
Lol. You request clips then go, "I can't see them." Buy a computer. Hell get a smartphone since I can see them fine on mine.
I probably won't visit the thread again since it will be a waste of time with clips I can't see.
Khan wins based off my reasoning.
Originally posted by dadudemon
It's not, actually. The Mythbusters tested this from many different heights (rather, elevations) and busted that myth.To put it more succinctly, direct, and to the point: falling into water is not as rigid/solid as falling onto concrete.
To use the physics terms: the object that is falling will undergo less negative acceleration when falling into water than on concrete. This means that an accelerometer, if placed in such on object, would report a higher G rating for impacts on concrete than on water (which is what the Mythbusters did).
Although TBF, I agree with the assessment that falling on a water surface without a chute is less deadly than falling on a solid concrete floor. Moment of impact and all being responsible for the major damage.
Originally posted by Epicurus
I wouldn't really cite MythBusters if I were you, considering the questionable methodology they utilize for "busting" myths. Eg. the test where they "proved" that women have higher pain tolerance/resistance than men, when real life medical studies done on the matter prove the opposite true.
Sometimes, they are hit or miss and they have a pretty good PR team that revisits myths if they screw them up (the fans can and will call them out).
Also, I think at the end of that piece, they briefly mentioned, in passing, that studies that inform the subjects that they are testing who has higher pain tolerance - men or women - the men exceed the women.
Also, generally, studies do indicate women have a higher pain tolerance.
Lastly, I could be mistaken on what they did on Mythbusters and, instead, this was a conversation about that episode between inimalist and myself, years ago, in the GDF.
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Originally posted by Epicurus
Although TBF, I agree with the assessment that falling on a water surface without a chute is less deadly than falling on a solid concrete floor. Moment of impact and all being responsible for the major damage.
Their results would not differ from, say, a scientific military study (which has been done). They used very high quality accelerometers and the results would be fairly consistent with a more rigorous test. They also adjusted their chutes to cause the "payloads" to match real-world human terminal velocity.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Also, generally, studies do indicate women have a higher pain tolerance.
Not to mention that they used a pretty diminutive sample population from which they based their conclusions.
There's a few other examples of their erroneous "mythbusting" as well, which I am too tired and bored to look up into right now.
Edit: What do you think about my revisiting of Khan's skull-crushing feat in the Khan vs Mountain thread?
Originally posted by Silent MasterKhan is about just as strong.
Your reasoning is flawed. as by your own feats Khan is slower, weaker, less skilled and less durable.
Originally posted by Silent MasterMini Submarine feat was impressive, but so was the skull crushing feat. Both are several times beyond a human.
Punching through reinforced submarine glass while underwater, jumping out of a plane without a chute, taking a Chitauri laser blast, lifting a motorcycle with 3 people on it. as for skill check out his fights with Winter Solider and Batroc.No amount of your bias is going to change the fact that those are better than Khan's feats.
Khan is also very skilled and would have beat the shit out of both Winter Soldier and Batroc.
Originally posted by h1a8
Mini Submarine feat was impressive, but so was the skull crushing feat. Both are several times beyond a human.
Cap is stronger.
Didn't Cap land in water?
Chitauri blast isn't a good feat given Cap had armor on.
Landing in water from that height would still be fatal and as Cap would have the armor in this match as well, it counts.
Star trek phasers are nothing to laugh at.
It was set on stun and nu-trek phasers have zero impressive feats.
Lifting a motorcyle with 3 people isn't a good feat.
LOL!!!!
Khan is also very skilled and would have beat the shit out of both Winter Soldier and Batroc. [/B]
Cap showed far more skill in those fights than nuKhan ever has.
Originally posted by Silent MasterNot by a lot where it matters. Both are very close. Both feats are in the vicinity of each other.
Cap is stronger.
They both have superhuman durability. Getting beaten by a seasoned fighter, using all of their might, without a scratch is similar or better feat.
Landing in water from that height would still be fatal and as Cap would have the armor in this match as well, it counts.
Protecting against energy projection =/= protecting against blunt force punches and kicks. His armor prevented the blast from burning all the way through.
Also, I don't see Kahn going for the gut as much as the face.
I have to review the feats. But Koing humans and aliens in 1 shot is pretty impressive in terms of being superhuman.
It was set on stun and nu-trek phasers have zero impressive feats.
No he didn't. He showed slightly more skilled. Did you see how Kahn smoked all of those Klingons with relative ease?
Cap showed far more skill in those fights than nuKhan ever has.
Strength is close (not going to make a difference in this fight)
Durability is close
Skill goes to Cap (not by a lot though)
Healing ability turns the tables for Kahn to win at least some
Originally posted by h1a8
Not by a lot where it matters. Both are very close. Both feats are in the vicinity of each other.
Cap has better strength feats.
They both have superhuman durability. Getting beaten by a seasoned fighter, using all of their might, without a scratch is similar or better feat.
Cap also has better durability feats.
Protecting against energy projection =/= protecting against blunt force punches and kicks. His armor prevented the blast from burning all the way through.
Also, I don't see Kahn going for the gut as much as the face.I have to review the feats. But Koing humans and aliens in 1 shot is pretty impressive in terms of being superhuman.
Again, Cap's feats vs energy projection and blunt force are better,
No he didn't. He showed slightly more skilled. Did you see how Kahn smoked all of those Klingons with relative ease?
Why should I be impressed with the skill level of Nu-Klingons?
Strength is close (not going to make a difference in this fight)
Durability is close
Skill goes to Cap (not by a lot though)
Healing ability turns the tables for Kahn to win at least some
Cap is stronger, faster, more skilled and has better durability...Cap wins.
Originally posted by h1a8Khan never showed a healing factor that would help him in a fight. His super healing factor always seemed to be more long term then Wolverine like.
Khan is about just as strong.
Strength is not a deciding factor here since they are both close. Speed is too close as well. Cap does have a slight skill advantage though. Durability is fairly close to. But Khan's healing ability more than makes up for that any slight advantages Cap may have.