Originally posted by h1a8
A 7-10 ton metal wall/beam? I call BS. What scene is this?
How strong is Bucky's biotic arm, what are it's feats?
Yes crushing someone's skull (the hardest bone in the body) is phucking incredible.
The scene you fell asleep on. The wall of the helicarrier falls on top of Bucky after their fight. Rogers dead lifts it up enough for him to get out.
And WS uses that arm to tear the doors off of heavily armored vehicles. He missed a punch to caps head and shattered the concrete ground. He threw Caps shield with enough force and speed that cap had to to just get out of the way instead of catch it and it impaled into the van behind him. He was casually throwing Cap around with it, and with obvious force.
It seems like you don't remember much of the action scenes. You may want to rewatch the movie. If you remembered the movie, you would understand why Cap slaughters here.
Even the first movie gives him amazing feats. Tearing through the hull of a submarine built to withstand fatal amounts of water pressure, tearing the top hatch of a tank off to drop bombs inside, lifting the girls and the motercycle over his head with one hand, (etc...).
Crushing someones head isn't anything to scoff at sure, but it is not anywhere near caps feats. It takes about 520 lbs of force to crush a head, according to the "Journal of Neurosurgery: Pediatric". Do you really believe Captain America couldn't replicate that with one hand if he wanted to?
http://www.nerdist.com/2014/06/the-mountain-meets-the-viper-could-it-happen/
Red Skull did draw blood from Cap. Cap used the shield to block the grenade. Landing on a car doesn't automatically make you spill blood depending on how you land on it. What massive fall?
I rewatched the scene before I posted that. Caps face was not bleeding.
And the 25 story (stated in the same scene) drop he tanked with no damage after the elevator fight scene. Here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1xmaS2E_qA
TBH I feel asleep near the end of winter soldier. I have to see it and judge. You could be right if Bucky hit Cap over and over in the face with the arm and barely got blood to come out. If that's the case then Kirk is not drawing blood at all.
Thanks for being reasonable.
BW, Hawkeye, etc. has nothing to do with Cap. They never fought him. If they did then they would be outclassed by the strength and durability advantage and not necessarily skill.
My point to that was Cap was talking out SHIELD soldiers left and right. Every major SHIELD character has shown massive amounts of skill, so its unreasonable to assume the rest of them don't have skill. Its obviously a job that's hard to qualify for.
Cap took 13 shield soldiers down with one hand restrained by a magnetic cuff while being tased and beaten.
Batroc does have skilled. But fighting many skilled Klingons (who may be slightly less skilled than Batroc) and owning them like childred is more impressive than not instantly beating Batroc.
I just rewatched that scene. Khan took almost all those Klingons by blasting them with a massive laser cannon. He took out 4-5 Klingons without the laser, using a sword. It's not that impressive.
Vulcans are significantly stronger than humans. They have both superhuman strength and durability. So the spock showing was a little Pissy but still acceptable.
Significantly stronger than normal humans, sure. Captain America is significantly stronger than him or Khan though.
1. Why not? Kahn heals instantly. His blood instantly healed a girl who was dying in a matter of seconds. Going from death to life in seconds is phucking amazing.
Cap has no healing feats. And where was it stated he has a HF? Thus he doesn't have a HF at all. He doesn't instantly heal at all.Cap is slightly more skilled, basically as strong, not really faster in one on one combat, I have to look at the Bucky feat for durability, and no healing factor to boot (I disagree).
There is no evidence to suggest that girls sickness was instantly gone. He looked at her vitals and her heart rate and vitals were shown to be improving. He condition was getting better, but nothing suggest she was instantly cured. Especially since it takes some time for that the circulate throughout her body. You act like it just instantly cleared everything. It probably just pumped through her heart and started the process. He vitals were still very much on the low end when that scene ended. She wasn't just healed. He started the process.
Kirk also took two weeks to completely heal and come back from the radiation poisoning, as Dr. McCoy stated.
Khans blood is far from instant.
Also, Caps healing factor was stated. I cant remember the exact scene or even movie, but I remember him talking to Nick Fury while he was drinking, and he stated he couldn't even get drunk thanks to his regenerative abilities making it impossible. Feat wise though, I suppose it is a little light.