Sinestro vs Magneto

Started by carver95 pages

Magneto can also manipulate energy on an extremely high level. I think an argument can be made for both.

With the revelation that the physical bodies of Celestials are made from Vibranium, makes Magneto reconstruction feat of Tiamut that much more impressive.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Can Magneto's powers effect a yellow power ring considering it's from the anti-matter universe?

Originally posted by MF DELPH
I'm not saying who wins as I do think this is a good match, but Dr. Polaris isn't the only person to effect a ring on the finger of a GL. Tangent Superman was able to pull a similar stunt on John Stewart, though that was via telekinesis and not allowing him to interface with his ring. Magneto can disrupt brain patterns and EM fields and the rings operate on verbal and mental commands (Magneto altered the polarity of the entire Earth at one point to inhibit telepathy), plus they are made from metal, so I don't believe it's a no limits fallacy to assume that Magneto, who has effected magical metals, alien metals, adamantium, and the body of Tiamut, can manipulate a small metal ring with circuitry. There's avenues of attack for Magneto unless this match starts with shielding up for both opponents at go. That's all I'm saying. Especially since .5 km is well withing Magneto's range of instant effect.

Sinestro's ring isn't made of metal last I checked.

Also even Kyle has smacked Polaris into unconsciousness pretty early. Nothing to suggest Sinestro wouldn't do that to Magneto since he doesn't uses shields in character.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Can Magneto's powers effect a yellow power ring considering it's from the anti-matter universe?

I think that's a good question. The only thing I would use as a counterpoint would be that in the Marvel Universe there is also an Anti-Matter Universe (the Negative Zone) and no being from the positively charged universe has ever had any issues using their powers on beings or materials (Cosmic Control Rod, for example) which originated from the anti-matter universe. Typically the scientific matter/antimatter reaction is tossed out the window until it suits the plot and beings from either verse are treated with the same properties when they interact, except for Anti-Monitor. Touching him seems to burn people, whereas a Yellow Lantern Ring doesn't seem to have any negative effects on the primarily positive matter Sinestro Corps members. Crime Syndicate interactions, for another example.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Also even Kyle has smacked Polaris into unconsciousness pretty early. Nothing to suggest Sinestro wouldn't do that to Magneto since he doesn't uses shields in character.
Sure he does.

Originally posted by Existere
Sure he does.

Oh really? When was the last time he used shields in combat?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Sinestro's ring isn't made of metal last I checked.

Are you certain of this, or just assuming?

A brief Google search I did brought up that power rings were made from an ore called "Oaite", as well as other metals mined from Titan:

"Power rings are said to be made of "Oaite," a compound found on Oa. Other compounds have been taken from worlds throughout the cosmos, at least five power rings were comprised of ore mined on Titan, a moon of Jupiter. [Flash Vol. 1 #221]". http://glcorps.dcuguide.com/rings.php.

Sinestro Corps rings were created by the Weaponers of Qward, so I'm going to see if I can find the comic where Sinestro is given the ring and see if it shows or states how the Weaponers crafted it (and what from).

Originally posted by MF DELPH
Are you certain of this, or just assuming?

A brief Google search I did brought up that power rings were made from an ore called "Oaite", as well as other metals mined from Titan:

"Power rings are said to be made of "Oaite," a compound found on Oa. Other compounds have been taken from worlds throughout the cosmos, at least five power rings were comprised of ore mined on Titan, a moon of Jupiter. [Flash Vol. 1 #221]". http://glcorps.dcuguide.com/rings.php.

Sinestro Corps rings were created by the Weaponers of Qward, so I'm going to see if I can find the comic where Sinestro is given the ring and see if it shows or states how the Weaponers crafted it (and what from).

I think Sinestro created rings by himself from his own ring. I don't think they were made of metal, but energy.

The ring can replicate itself. That doesn't mean the duplicates are non-metal. Just like Star Trek Replicators can create metal objects (mass producing phasers, for example).

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"Duplication of the Power Ring

An experienced ring wielder can create other power rings, duplicates of his/her/its own. These power rings are subject to the same limitations as their "original" copy, and will run out of power in twenty-four hours if not recharged."

Originally posted by MF DELPH
The ring can replicate itself. That doesn't mean the duplicates are non-metal. Just like Star Trek Replicators can create metal objects (mass producing phasers, for example).

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"Duplication of the Power Ring

An experienced ring wielder can create other power rings, duplicates of his/her/its own. These power rings are subject to the same limitations as their "original" copy, and will run out of power in twenty-four hours if not recharged."

True, but it doesn't mean they are metal, either. Unless it was stated.

Originally posted by MF DELPH
I'm not saying who wins as I do think this is a good match, but Dr. Polaris isn't the only person to effect a ring on the finger of a GL. Tangent Superman was able to pull a similar stunt on John Stewart, though that was via telekinesis and not allowing him to interface with his ring. Magneto can disrupt brain patterns and EM fields and the rings operate on verbal and mental commands (Magneto altered the polarity of the entire Earth at one point to inhibit telepathy), plus they are made from metal, so I don't believe it's a no limits fallacy to assume that Magneto, who has effected magical metals, alien metals, adamantium, and the body of Tiamut, can manipulate a small metal ring with circuitry. There's avenues of attack for Magneto unless this match starts with shielding up for both opponents at go. That's all I'm saying. Especially since .5 km is well withing Magneto's range of instant effect.

Still though, twice in the entire history of the power rings has something like that happened? It's a stretch for me to buy that Erik would have more control over Sinestro's ring than Sinestro would, mainly due to the fact that the power of the ring supercedes the material/materials from which it was created. They've (Sinestro/GLs) faced far greater cosmic threats with better energy manipulation than Magneto.

Originally posted by Golgo13
True, but it doesn't mean they are metal, either. Unless it was stated.

They're exact replicas (duplicates). They're made of what the original is made of. It's essentially mitosis.

Originally posted by batdude123
Still though, twice in the entire history of the power rings has something like that happened? It's a stretch for me to buy that Erik would have more control over Sinestro's ring than Sinestro would, mainly due to the fact that the power of the ring supercedes the material/materials from which it was created. They've (Sinestro/GLs) faced far greater cosmic threats with better energy manipulation than Magneto.

That doesn't exactly mean anything unless all of those cosmic threats tried this specific avenue of attack (magnetism).

And as sharp as we both know you are, I think we both know you know that.

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I'm not saying Magneto can control the ring and make constructs/manipulate the Oan energy. I'm saying the substance of the instrument itself. Just like Magneto can move Mjolnir but he's not going to be casting lightning with it or opening magic portals.

Originally posted by MF DELPH
They're exact replicas (duplicates). They're made of what the original is made of. It's essentially mitosis.

But we don't know what they are made of, right? Do you have a scan where it tells the objects materials?

Originally posted by MF DELPH
Are you certain of this, or just assuming?

A brief Google search I did brought up that power rings were made from an ore called "Oaite", as well as other metals mined from Titan:

"Power rings are said to be made of "Oaite," a compound found on Oa. Other compounds have been taken from worlds throughout the cosmos, at least five power rings were comprised of ore mined on Titan, a moon of Jupiter. [Flash Vol. 1 #221]". http://glcorps.dcuguide.com/rings.php.

Sinestro Corps rings were created by the Weaponers of Qward, so I'm going to see if I can find the comic where Sinestro is given the ring and see if it shows or states how the Weaponers crafted it (and what from).


That's pre-crisis version of the story. After rebirth, the rings are supposed to be made of pure energy.

That's what I'm researching now. I'm trying to see what the Weaponers crafted it from. All I've found so far is that the Green Lantern Rings were made from an Oan metal (Oaite).

Originally posted by MF DELPH
That's what I'm researching now. I'm trying to see what the Weaponers crafted it from. All I've found so far is that the Green Lantern Rings were made from an Oan metal (Oaite).

Sinestro's old ring was destroyed in Rebirth. He made another ring out of pure fear energy AFAIK.

At this point I'm picking Sinestro. Magneto isn't at the top of his game currently. Unless this is Magneto from years ago when he was at his best? Even then I wouldn't highly favor either, because Sinestro is really good with his ring.