Rank the Top Sith Sorcerers

Eh, Aleema doesn't strike me as a particularly incredible sorcerer.

She was pretty good. She had good illusions and could turn people to charred husks with darkside blasts.

true. But then again despite her skill with sorcery, I feel like she was depicted as a nobody compared to greater sorcerers of and before her time like kun (obviously), Nadd, Sadow, Hord, probably some of the first exiles, etc.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Eh, Aleema doesn't strike me as a particularly incredible sorcerer.

I think her ability with illusions is underrated. Her ability to generate massive starships to confuse the Republic fleet and conceal Satal's simultaneous attack is pretty impressive, imo.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
true. But then again despite her skill with sorcery, I feel like she was depicted as a nobody compared to greater sorcerers of and before her time like kun (obviously), Nadd, Sadow, Hord, probably some of the first exiles, etc.

True, but I'd still put her on Ventress levels or something.

In order:

- Emperor Vitiate
- Dread Masters (all)
- Tulak Hord
- Darth Nox
- Darth Sidious
- Exar Kun
- Darth Thanaton
- Mother Talzin
- Darth Zannah
- Naga Sadow
- Wyyrlok III

Does Talzin count?

**** I forgot Talzin. Talzin > Kun

I'm fairly certain Allyan Magic is separate from Sith Sorcery.

the OP says, "sith sorcerers," something Talzin isn't.

Oh, Lord Fulminiss has to be on the list.

carthage
Does anyone have feats for Murr?

Karness Muur had a magic ability that allowed him to turn any non-force user near him into a mutated Rakghoul under his control (and any force wielded scratched by one would also become one).

He could control at least a planet full of them at a time, possibly much more, and under his control they could still operate weapons and ships.

Astor
Exar Kun is arguably the best.

Ehh, he has some stuff, but 'influencing some minor jedi who were able to resist,' and 'freeze a bunch of non-force users' isn't too big. Lots of sorcerers could beat him in a sorcery match (now, he's powerful in other areas, I just don't think he's a top shelf sorcerer).

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
In order:

- Emperor Vitiate
- Dread Masters (all)
- Tulak Hord
- Darth Nox
- Darth Sidious
- Exar Kun
- Darth Thanaton
- Mother Talzin
- Darth Zannah
- Naga Sadow
- Wyyrlok III

What, *Hord* as 3rd? Let's see what Wikipedia says of his sorcery- "May know the secrets of immortality." No combat sorcery mentioned at all. So, certainly less than Andeddu, let alone, well, most of the others you put below him. Powerful, sure, but his big feats aren't sorcery ones.

Thanaton above Zannah and Sadow and Wyyrlok? Pssh, such era bias.

It's the sheer number of individuals he froze, not to mention draining the Massassi race, separating Luke's spirit from his body, burning Gantoris to death from the inside out, and all his alchemical creations which I would consider a form of sorcery. The guy doesn't appear in that much source material and still has some of the best feats of sorcery in scale and variety. He presumably had a lot more tricks up his sleeve as well. He's a definite contender for the #1 spot.

My list would be:

Vitiate
Karness Muur
Nox
Zannah
Wyyrlok
Sadow
Nadd
Andeddu
Exar Kun
Thanathon
Maladi
Aleema Keto

I rate Zannah and Wyyrlok highly because being able to take out powerful sith with Memory Walk is a devastating ability that'd allow them to beat many other sith sorcerers.

Q, please tell me the reason you made this thread wasn't just so you could talk about how great you think Wyyrlock is?

The way I see it is more like this:

JK - Guardian
SW - Marauder
JC - Shadow
SI - Sorcerer
Smug - Gunslinger
BH - Powertech
Agent - Sniper
Troop - Vanguard

Originally posted by NewGuy01
The way I see it is more like this:

JK - Guardian
SW - Marauder
JC - Shadow
SI - Sorcerer

Originally posted by Astor Ebligis
Q, please tell me the reason you made this thread wasn't just so you could talk about how great you think Wyyrlock is?

That was the exact reason he made this thread. XD

Consular = Shadow? Naw. For a bunch of reasons, but it also cuz feels wrong for the Consular to go to all the trouble of finding and re-forging the First Blade only to trade it in for a common saberstaff.

Maybe she modified it and made it into a saber staff. 🙁

No, it's mostly based on my belief that the classes parallel one another--If the Knight is a Guardian, then the Warrior should be Marauder. As it is for Darth Nox and the Barsen'thor. I know it's a silly argument, but I feel that if both the class types exist for the characters they should all be prevalent in some form or another?

Also, unlike Nox, the Barsen has nothing that disputes her being a Shadow. Even if you're not really convinced, it's at least better in support for the Barsen anyway considering she lacks saber feats. 😐