Originally posted by ShadowFyre
What is wrong about Spidey? This is probably the closest to comic book spiderman we will ever get. Tobey was horrible, garfield was screwed by horrible material I thinkk, this one seemed legit from the trailers?
The voice, the CGI suit, the joke... Really none of it is working for me right now.
Got back from watching this Movie.
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The film starts off in 1991 in a Russian facility that's run by Hydra Agents. It shows how Bucky was programmed into becoming the Winter Soldier. He was sent to retrieve this 5 glowing drugs on a plastic bag. It then shifts to the Present Day Lagos Wakanda were Cap,Falcon,Black Widow, and Scarlet Witch were conducting a sting operation to catch Crossbones and his crew. Crossbones and his crew were after a biological weapon in this building. Of course the 4 Avengers interfere in order to prevent Crossbones from getting his hands on it. Funny thing about Crossbones is that the suit he wears reminded me a bit of the Batsuit Batfleck was wearing. He was sending Cap flying with his blows. Of course Cap still owned Crossbones despite his equipment. When Crossbones was about to lose, he pulls a Predator self destruct. Scarlet Witch uses her TK to prevent Crossbones from exploding. But when Scarlet Witch could no longer hold that explosion. She tosses Crossbones in the air in a nearby building killing some Wakandans in the process. Tony was in a University during this time showing off some tech. Even promises some people that their project will be funded. Then a woman appears and says to Tony that her son died in the Sokovian incident. Next was the Avengers actions are being evaluated. The battle of New York(Honestly, how is this the Avengers fault),the Hydra infiltrating SHIELD in CA Winter Soldier(Technically I feel Cap,Nick and the rest of the SHIELD crew is responsible for this), and the Sokovian Incident(This is Tony's fault but it seems the Avengers was drag into his mess for creating Ultron) and now the Wakandan incident finally pushes for a registration that was signed by 117 Countries that aims to limit the actions of the Avengers. This registrations is to prevent Cap from pulling off a black ops type mission that happened in Wakanda since they will need to ask permission now. And this means the Avengers are now UN sanctioned. The Avengers end up debating this among themselves. Cap is against this while Tony is in favor of this. But Agent Carter died of old age and Cap went to London for her funeral and meets Sharon Carter daughter of Peggy Carter. Helmut Zemo finds the Russian Hydra agent who brainwashed and programmed Bucky into becoming the Winter Soldier. He then finds out how to activate Bucky's programming. Zemo then kills the Hydra Agent. Then a meeting in Vienna occurred. Black Widow ends up representing the Avengers and talks with T'Chaka king of Wakanda and his son T'Challa. T'Challa saw this vehicle exploding outside the window and tries to warn the others. His father died in the incident. Next shows the culprit on TV. Bucky's face was shown on TV pinning him for the Vienna bombing. Cap and Falcon finds Bucky thanks to Carter. They then head to Germany. A confrontation with Buck occurs. It is revealed that Bucky still doesn't remember his past. He tells Cap he didn't bombed Vienna. German Swats started to come. Bucky and Cap fought the Swats. And Black Panther finally appears and fought Bucky in hand to hand. Of course a chase scene happens. And yes Cap jacked a police car in that chase scene. All 3 guys were impressive in showcasing how fast they were on their feet. But, they winded up captured and in custody by German Authorities. This is were Zemo struck by awakening Bucky's Winter Soldier Programming. T'Challa was impressive in this scene as he fought an even fight with Winter Soldier without his Black Panther Vibranium armor. Although in fairness, Winter Soldier was trying to escape. Of course this is were Captain America pulled off his pulling the Helicopter scene to prevent Winter Soldier from escaping. Both of them fell in the river. Strange thing, Bucky was snapped out of his Winter Soldier programming and finally remembers who Steve Rogers is. Bucky reveals what Zemo(Although Bucky didn't know or met Zemo in the Past) might be after 5 more people who also became Winter Soldiers. Cap recruits a team to go to Russia Moscow. Ironman recruits a team of his own to bring in both Cap and Bucky. The scene were Tony visits Peter Parker was funny. Of course Ironman blackmailed Parker by threat to reveal his identity to his Aunt May. And yes Tony upgraded Spiderman's suit. The next scene has Tony evacuate the German airport since he knows Cap is in there. This fight scene was truly awesome. TOO AWESOME for words. Spiderman did his antics but at the same time being a fanboy both to Tony and Cap. He even fought Winter Soldier and Falcon and was doing well. He later fought Cap in an even fight. And holy strength feat from Spiderman! And Cap fought him well. Ant-man became Giant-man during this scuffle. And the one who actually betrays Ironman in this fight was Black Widow and not Spiderman. Cap and Bucky acquires a quinjet. Ironman and War Machine go after Cap and Bucky. Falcon tries to stop both Ironman and War Machine. War Machine tells Vision to shoot Falcon. Falcon dodges the shot hitting War Machine in the process. This rendered Rhodey paralyzed from the waste down. Tony of course was angry. The next scene has Black Widow and Tony talking. Tony later on finds out that Bucky was framed for the bombing of Vienna. Next scene shows Tony going into the Raft where Superhumans are imprisoned that is headed by non other then Ross. Tony tries to find Cap and Bucky by talking to Falcon. He reveals he knows that Bucky was framed. Falcon reveals where they are going and suggest to Tony to go there on his own. Which Tony does and followed by the Black Panther in his jet. Bucky and Cap finally found the facility. Then Tony appears followed by Black Panther(Ninja Style). When they got there, the 5 Winter Soldier were killed by Zemo in their Cryotubes with a bullet in their heads. Zemo then reveals a footage Dec 16 1991 showing Winter Soldier stopping a car and retrieving the glowing drugs. He then kills the man and woman who happens to be Tony Stark's parents. Because of this revelation, Tony wants to murder Winter Soldier. This results in Cap and Bucky Vs Ironman. Bucky loses his Bionic arm in this fight. But Cap and Bucky beats Tony in a hard fought fight. Cap could have killed Tony but decides to destroy the arc reactor in his suit. Tony reminded Cap that the Shield was made by his dad. Cap then drops the Shield and walks away with Bucky. Black Panther confronts the master mind of this whole incident Helmut Zemo. He decides not to kill Zemo. But Zemo was about to commit suicide but was stopped by Black Panther using his palm. Next scene shows Tony and Rhodes(with Stark tech on his leg) talking. Tony then receives a package from Steve. Then its revealed Steve and Bucky are in Wakanda. Bucky decides to freeze himself until the Winter Soldier Program is purged from his Psyche. Steve tells T'Challa "If they found out his here, they'll be coming!" T'Challa responds "Let them come!" Scene ends with a statue of a giant Black Panther. Post Credit ending scene shows Peter with a black eye telling his aunt a guy named "Steve" did this to him. This means Spiderman Movie in the MCU.
Great movie. I feel this is at par or even better than Captain America the Winter Soldier. Sure
Spoiler:Fights scene were all well done.
Zemo's motivation is driven by revenge against Captain America and the Avengers. so he wanted them to Fight each other.
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Even the Air port fight scene was greatly done despite having a 6 Vs 6 battle showcasing what each individual can do.
This movie gets a 9 out of 10. Go watch it when it finally comes into your theaters.
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Oh my god. My instincts never failed me before, and my instinct knew Iron Man was gonna be shafted in this movie. And I was right. Cap was getting too pumped up. Movies going down the same shitty path of the comics. The Iron man lowballers and Cap/WS fanboys are going to have a field day with this, despite whatever context. They could've did it so much better. Especially with Buck damaging IM with a normal arm shield bash. they could've atleast amde it look liek Tony was damaged real bad when he was outside the armor.
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Especially Bucky killing Tony's parents, or Vision being the one to shoot down War Machine (seriously, who has the same color or style energy beam), or Zemo controlling Bucky, BP joining Cap were all leaked or guessed.
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The woman who blames Tony for her son's death is gonna appear in the new Luke Cage show
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I liked Bucky using BP attacking him to free himself from the cuffs
Originally posted by HulkIsHulkSpoiler:
Oh my god. My instincts never failed me before, and my instinct knew Iron Man was gonna be shafted in this movie. And I was right. Cap was getting too pumped up. Movies going down the same shitty path of the comics. The Iron man lowballers and Cap/WS fanboys are going to have a field day with this, despite whatever context. They could've did it so much better. Especially with Buck damaging IM with a normal arm shield bash. they could've atleast amde it look liek Tony was damaged real bad when he was outside the armor.
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To be fair, Bucky lost his bionic arm when he fought Ironman in the climax of the movie.
Originally posted by HulkIsHulkSpoiler:
The OMG feat you said -did you mean the bus?
Anyway, Vision saving BP was cool as well
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If you mean Spiderman, Stark showed that footage to Parker when he was doing his blackmail. Stark was impressed. The Airport Fight scene also has an omg feat when Cap tossed his shield hitting a metal beam that was supporting a heavy object(I think this was a cargo freight). Spiderman caught it with both hands. And this is Cap who fought Spiderman in an even fight 🙄
Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
I am avoiding all spoilers in this thread. It's pretty hard but I have some willpower. CURSE YOU FOR SEEING THIS MOVIE ALREADY!?!@ lol.
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Can't help it if I'm from a place that gets Marvel Cinematic Universe Films early. But I'll tell you this. Its leagues better than BVS 🙄
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
I still don't care for Spiderman's costume but if his portrayal is as good as reviews have been hyping it up to be then I guess its cool. Still sucks that he's now second fiddle in a Cap movie IMO.
Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
2nd fiddle? Dude, Captain America is going to have a better trilogy than Spider-Man ever had. In fact, when it's all said and done it can be argued that Cap will have the best super hero trilogy of all time. What did you expect, that Spidey comes into Civil War and instantly gets the most screen time?
Iron Man doesn't stand out well as a trilogy but is still a far more popular MCU character than Cap. Ramai's Spider-Man trilogy actually ended being far better than Iron Man's. Spider-Man 3 just let that trilogy down unfortunately. Doesn't change how great Spider-Man 2 was, the boost the Spider-Man movies gave to the superhero franchise, or the popularity of the character.