Loki vs. Vulcan

Doom knows a thing or two about both magic, and draining powers. Loki is not bothered. From Siege, so carver, something from when you started reading comics.

But since you want modern hypnosis feats....

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Illusion casting =/= hypnosis. Otherwise, Batman is able to cast illusions. And we don''t want that, do we?

Why, does it matter if I'm using old scans? Besides the hypnosis, anyway, he turned Bor, a VERY powerful guy, into snow. Recently.

How many times out of 10 will he use hypnosis and those 60's scans...is that the only time he's done that?

He prepped for the Bor showing. It wasn't something that he was able to just do with a wave of his hand. There isn't any prep for this battle.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Doom knows a thing or two about both magic, and draining powers. Loki is not bothered. From Siege, so carver, something from when you started reading comics.

I'm trying to figure out why you posted this scan.

Look above. He's done it in the past, he's done it recently, there have been no retcons saying that he's lost his ability......

IOW, it's Loki's fight to lose, in your opinion. Once he uses hypnosis (amongst other things), he wins, right?

Originally posted by carver9
I'm trying to figure out why you posted this scan.

He can phase to become intangible. Against energy drainers built by Doom.

Actually, just go to ODG's respect thread:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=551221&pagenumber=1

He has hypnotised the surfer.

If he reads vulcans mind he will know NOT to blast him.

He completely no sold Rogue when she tried to absorb his power.
And she had the power of Thor.

All the things I mentioned he can & will do.

The transmutation is the best bet, he has done it before, and he is capable of doing it again.

And Loki is A LOT smarter than Vulcan.

I see him reading his mind, realising he is waiting for hin to blast him, go Invisible...shapeshift into Vulcans dead mother(just read his mind and his past) Vulcan being a bit of a ****tard, "mom!"

Loki can now get close, and sticks the flame sword staight through Vulcans skull.

Loki wins, check the respect thread too.

Nah he doesn't even need to read his mind. Basic knowledge applies.

Which is that Vulcan manipulates energy. He's powerful, sure, but a one-trick pony.

I like this new CBR version of Loki

Well, basic knowledge rules apply. No one can argue about that.
Loki is sneaky, cunning, and clever. No one can argue about that.
He has other abilities aside from lol, blasts ftw! No one can argue about that.

What's your problem?

Originally posted by Insane Titan
I like this new CBR version of Loki

Since we are just throwing out fts, then let me start.

Here we have Vulcan shutting off the currents in Rachel brain.

http://s209.photobucket.com/user/RespectThread/media-full/Vulcan/fights/fight%201/3.jpg.html

He made Rachel and the other Xmen think Jean was calling out to them..
http://s209.photobucket.com/user/RespectThread/media/Vulcan/fights/fight%201/1.jpg.html
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb312/RespectThread/Vulcan/fights/fight%201/2.jpg

Here he was fast enough to curve Cyclops own blast back at him.

http://s209.photobucket.com/user/RespectThread/media-full/Vulcan/fights/fight%201/4.jpg.html

He did all of this in one fight.

Control energy from the inside of his opponents.

http://s209.photobucket.com/user/RespectThread/media-full/Vulcan/fights/fight%204/5.jpg.html
http://s209.photobucket.com/user/RespectThread/media-full/Vulcan/fights/fight%204/6.jpg.html

OMNI blast.

http://s209.photobucket.com/user/RespectThread/media-full/Vulcan/fights/fight%204/8.jpg.html
http://s209.photobucket.com/user/RespectThread/media/Vulcan/fights/random/fight%201/4.jpg.html

Shields...

http://s209.photobucket.com/user/RespectThread/media/Vulcan/fights/fight%206/5.jpg.html

Blasts big enough to engulf star ships.

http://s209.photobucket.com/user/RespectThread/media/Vulcan/fights/random/fight%202/1.jpg.html

Then he's faster.

http://s209.photobucket.com/user/RespectThread/media/Vulcan/fights/random/fight%202/2.jpg.html

Drain the energy clean out of the soldiers body.

http://s209.photobucket.com/user/RespectThread/media-full/Vulcan/fights/random/fight%203/2.jpg.html

Makes Kitty see a dead Colossus.

http://s209.photobucket.com/user/RespectThread/media/Vulcan/powers/phionic/phy%201/1.jpg.html

Controls Night crawlers mind.

http://s209.photobucket.com/user/RespectThread/media/Vulcan/powers/phionic/phy%202/1.jpg.html

Makes Banshee see Moira.

http://s209.photobucket.com/user/RespectThread/media/Vulcan/powers/phionic/phy%203/1.jpg.html
http://s209.photobucket.com/user/RespectThread/media/Vulcan/powers/phionic/phy%203/2.jpg.html

Not done.

Yes, so with all the basic knowledge Loki, one of the most cunning manipulators in Marvel, has, ESPECIALLY given his in-character penchant for avoiding straight up blasting battles, you still, IN CHARACTER, say that...what, he's going to try and out blast Vulcan?

Get this CBR Loki outta here.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yes, so with all the basic knowledge Loki, one of the most cunning manipulators in Marvel, has, ESPECIALLY given his in-character penchant for avoiding straight up blasting battles, you still, IN CHARACTER, say that...what, he's going to try and out blast Vulcan?

Get this CBR Loki outta here.

He turns the Xmen powers off and during the time, Rachel had the Phoenix in her.

http://s209.photobucket.com/user/RespectThread/media-full/Vulcan/powers/Misc/misc%201/3.jpg.html

Makes the Xmen see their greatest fears.

http://s209.photobucket.com/user/RespectThread/media-full/Vulcan/powers/Misc/misc%202/1.jpg.html

Speed ft
http://s209.photobucket.com/user/RespectThread/media/Vulcan/Feats/Speed/speed%201/2.jpg.html

Here he cuts the elder off from his powers and he was getting power from an entire planet full of his people.

http://s160.photobucket.com/user/EndlessMike9/media/vulcanvseldest.jpg.html

http://s160.photobucket.com/user/EndlessMike9/media/vulcanvseldest1.jpg.html

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yes, so with all the basic knowledge Loki, one of the most cunning manipulators in Marvel, has, ESPECIALLY given his in-character penchant for avoiding straight up blasting battles, you still, IN CHARACTER, say that...what, he's going to try and out blast Vulcan?

Get this CBR Loki outta here.

Turn his powers off, mentally mess with him, drain him...the list goes on and Loki isn't beating Vulcan in a blasting match. I posted those because you are just throwing out stuff. Literally naming things Loki has done. So why not do the same. He literally stripped Rachel of her power and she had the Phoenix force. Good luck Loki.

Hahahahaha.

You mentioned all the things Loki can do, and has done on a better scale.

Tricking a few fodder x-men?
Loki has tricked odin himself with a simple illusion, Thor time and time again, not only are they magic in nature they know Loki's tricks, and he still fools them.

Loki can OMNI blast, but hes not going to obviously.

Loki was fast enough to SEE radio waves & redirect them to donald blake.

Vulcan is outclassed by someone more powerful, & far more versatile, get me any GL and stand him next to Loki, and Loki's list of abilities will be longer.

Originally posted by LeonBuco666
Hahahahaha.

You mentioned all the things Loki can do, and has done on a better scale.

Tricking a few fodder x-men?
Loki has tricked odin himself with a simple illusion, Thor time and time again, not only are they magic in nature they know Loki's tricks, and he still fools them.

Loki can OMNI blast, but hes not going to obviously.

Loki was fast enough to SEE radio waves & redirect them to donald blake.

Vulcan is outclassed by someone more powerful, & far more versatile, get me any GL and stand him next to Loki, and Loki's list of abilities will be longer.

Vulcan has complete control of his mind...He isn't getting tricked and Loki Knows Thor and Odin better than anyone. Of course he would know how to trick them.

Originally posted by LeonBuco666
Hahahahaha.

You mentioned all the things Loki can do, and has done on a better scale.

Tricking a few fodder x-men?
Loki has tricked odin himself with a simple illusion, Thor time and time again, not only are they magic in nature they know Loki's tricks, and he still fools them.

Loki can OMNI blast, but hes not going to obviously.

Loki was fast enough to SEE radio waves & redirect them to donald blake.

Vulcan is outclassed by someone more powerful, & far more versatile, get me any GL and stand him next to Loki, and Loki's list of abilities will be longer.