Loki vs. Vulcan

Started by carver911 pages
Originally posted by quanchi112
How does he fight on panel ? If you don't know the answer you can't say how he doesn't fight.

Blast, create illusions, kick, punch, etc... his vibe is trickery, even during combat. Won't get him anywhere against someone like Vulcan that would try to kill you during the onset of the battle. Energy drain is one of his main attacks which would more than likely mess Loki up.

The rules are clear:

Plot Induced Stupidity, or PIS, is when characters don't use their abilities or skills to the fullest extent as shown before , even within their personality ranges, for the sake of the story plotline. It makes lesser powered characters an actual challenge against higher powered characters in the comics.

The rules never said "as show before during fights". No one need bring Loki using the feat in a battle...

Originally posted by LeonBuco666
Loki has also cut Hulk off from his power with ease and turned him back into banner.

Loki wins this with overwhelming illusions, tricks and power sapping spells.
He is to smart to lose this one.

Transmutation or mind rape for the win.

Lets not forget he drove Reed Richards insane by filling his head with Chaos Math.

And what is Vulcan doing while Loki is doing this?

Originally posted by eaebiakuya
The rules are clear:

Plot Induced Stupidity, or PIS, is when characters don't use their [B]abilities or skills to the fullest extent as shown before , even within their personality ranges, for the sake of the story plotline. It makes lesser powered characters an actual challenge against higher powered characters in the comics.

The rules never said "as show before during fights". No one need bring Loki using the feat in a battle... [/B]

So you agree?

Originally posted by carver9
But yet they fight in character. Again, if we are using your way of debating... Surfer beats Superman 10/10 (honestly any herald), Superman beats Thor 10/10, and a recent fist fight match that is on this board between Prime and Thanos, Prime stomps him 10/10. Hell, Superman or Wonder Woman would stomp him 10/10 via speed blitz/strength. Anyone that doesn't have speed would die to Thor and his power out put. I could literally just spam a Thor thread saying "Thor wins via soul suck". Or a Surfer thread saying "Surfer wins via black hole to the brain". Lol...debating like you are trying to throw out, no one would beat my Surfer short of Galactus. Their powers are in play but they are still in character.
Originally posted by carver9
And what us Vulcan doing while Loki is doing this?

Attempting to figure out which one is the real loki.

While loki is either turning him into a toad, filling his head with Chaos Math in which vulcan becomes a vegatable, casting spells which weaken him severely & inflicting heavy seizures.

Originally posted by LeonBuco666
Attempting to figure out which one is the real loki.

While loki is either turning him into a toad, filling his head with Chaos Math in which vulcan becomes a vegatable, casting spells which weaken him severely & inflicting heavy seizures.

Why wouldn't he know which one is the real Loki when he can telepathically sense the real one? During battle, who is the most powerful being Loki has turned into something. Remember, I said 'during battle', not when he is off panel and we are unable to actually see what he did to do this.

Vulcan would just take control over Loki's magical energies, and burn him with his own power. If Loki somehow had enough time to summon illusions before that happens, Vulcan would easily detect the real Loki's energy and beat him anyway.

Originally posted by Magnon
Vulcan would just take control over Loki's magical energies, and burn him with his own power. If Loki somehow had enough time to summon illusions before that happens, Vulcan would easily detect the real Loki's energy and beat him anyway.

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No.

He no sold Rogue when she tried the same thing.

Originally posted by LeonBuco666
No.

He no sold Rogue when she tried the same thing.

That ain't close to being the same thing.

Originally posted by LeonBuco666
No.

He no sold Rogue when she tried the same thing.

Nah, Loki's power was easily shut down when he faced Ashema.

PIS.

He no sold Rogue, he should have been able to then, but never for sake of plot.

Originally posted by LeonBuco666
PIS.

He no sold Rogue, he should have been able to then, but never for sake of plot.

WTF.

I've given the issue number to you - am still awaiting proof with Bor.

Vulcan.uhuh

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I've given the issue number to you - am still awaiting proof with Bor.

When? And was he on the battlefield when he did it? How did he do it? Wave his hands? Read from a spell casting book? Scans.

...You asked for the issue number Scandaddy. I provided it to you. So did Rage. You said he prepped for it, which he doesn't for this match - so prove he prepped for it.

You sound like you've never read it, tbh....

Lol im just ****in with ya.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
...You asked for the issue number Scandaddy. I provided it to you. So did Rage. You said he prepped for it, which he doesn't for this match - so prove he prepped for it.

You sound like you've never read it, tbh....

About to read it. Honestly i only seen parts of it and i remember Loki not being in front of Bor when this happen. IIRC, we only see a glimpse of Loki face when this happened.

Lol. Oh dear. You haven't seen it, have you?