ROTJ Luke vs ROTS Anakin

Started by Time Immemorial4 pages
Originally posted by dadudemon
Well, then, by all means: post a newer quote where he contradicts himself. If you had something, I'd be willing to concede this point switch sides.

Lol, I'm just bullshitting you🙂

Oh. Well, I'm not opposed to changing my mind, though. Evidence is evidence. 🙂

Originally posted by dadudemon
Oh. Well, I'm not opposed to changing my mind, though. Evidence is evidence. 🙂

This is basically based off power scaling at this point. Anakin showed way more power and better with a saber but Luke has some great feats as well. It's hard for me too decide.

Quotes from Vader in ANH:

Darth Vader: I've been waiting for you, Obi-Wan. We meet again, at last. The circle is now complete. When I left you, I was but the learner; now *I* am the master.
Obi-Wan: Only a master of evil, Darth.
[lightsabers clash]
Darth Vader: Your powers are weak, old man.

Clear Vader is stating that he is more powerful then in ROTS.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I mean, if you want to contradict George Lucas, himself, on this, be my guest.

No one will take you seriously, though. 😐

{citation needed}

don't recall GL ever commenting on vader losing any of his power/ability with the force that didn't require agility or physical speed.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Some of you guys crack me up... ROTJ Vader was FAR FAR above Anakin in the force. Anakin was quiet pedestrian in the force compared to Suit Vader.

choking someone out from some another part of a super-star destroyer is quite a feat of control, which ROTS anakin/vader does not display...nor any other character for that matter. however that doesn't mean he can fling heavy shit around at the same distance.

with that said, i think it all comes down to the playing field. in close quarters/duel anakin dices luke. anyone that wants to debate this shoukd immediately be tranquilized and strapped down. however i think it too presumptuous to dismiss luke's force capabilities as inferior if we're going by screen feats. luke lifted an xwing...and yes he dropped it because he gave up like a sissy, but what's the heaviest thing anakin's lifted?*

*this is why i think strict adherence to screen feats can get silly. of course anakin wins. but someone could make the preceding points and have a valid argument.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Why the hell not, he contradicted himself all the time🙂

Funny, I was Just about to say this in response to the contradicting Lucas comment. 🙂

Originally posted by DTM
Funny, I was Just about to say this in response to the contradicting Lucas comment. 🙂

😄

Luke > Vader > Anakin

Is it even worth debating?

Luke is greater than older, shittier Vader but Anakin at his peak would wipe his ass with Luke.

That's irrelevant because it's here-say. Look at what Luke accomplished in the short time of his training. Anakin fell victim to Palpatine and was fatally wounded by Obi Wan. Luke overthrew Palpatine and bested Vadar.

ROTS Vader was a superior saber duelist, ROTJ Vader was a superior master of the force.