Revan and HOT run the Gauntlet

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Originally posted by Emperordmb
No it states that Malak and Revan were lying at Vitiate's feet in after a short time. I take that to mean he defeated/knocked out Malak and Revan before mindraping them, similar to what he did to the strike team on his space station. The second time Revan clashed with Vitiate, Revan and Vitiate did a bunch of other shit before Vitiate even attempted to mindrape him.

That is not how I remember things occurring.

No, Emperor you are wrong.
They didn't fight, it was just a mindrape.

Yeah, that's not how any of it occurred. not that it matters, vitiates mental domination won't be a trump card anyways.

Yeah sorry my mind was a little hazy on that.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
According to the situation:

"he'd feared they'd have to fight through dozens of the guard before reaching the throne room, giving the emperor ample time to prepare a counterattack. Now, however, they had a chance to take their adversary by surprise."

-Revan

Yeah, I know. You fell for my trap. 😬

This was prior to the battle outside Viti's throne room; Revan was banking on easy access to Viti by way of Scourge's station. It backfired and a fight ensued outside.

Viti had ample time to mount some sort of preparation.

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Originally posted by The_Tempest
Yeah, I know. You fell for my trap. 😬

This was prior to the battle outside Viti's throne room; Revan was banking on easy access to Viti by way of Scourge's station. It backfired and a fight ensued outside.

Viti had ample time to mount some sort of preparation.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Are there any examples of Vitiate successfully mindraping somebody in combat?

Swtore says that he's crushed the minds of dozens of Jedi who tried attacking him.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Swtore says that he's crushed the minds of dozens of Jedi who tried attacking him.

That's not stated to be the case with those examples.

Is that the exact and complete phrasing of the statement?

"Most Jedi who ventured into Imperial space vanished without a trace, but a few managed to send back disturbing messages to their Masters. These fragmented communiques showed the Emperor's Jedi pursuers descending into fear, madness, and evil when faced with his power. It quickly became clear the Sith Emperor was more then a brilliant military strategist and cunning political leader. He was a living embodiment of the dark side of the Force who delighted in destroying the minds and spirits of those Jedi who came too close to him." - (SWTORE, Page 88)

Another source indicates that they had actually confronted him:

"Jedi Master Tol Braga's strike team was not the first group to succumb to the Sith leader's oppressive influence. Hundreds of years ago, the Jedi Revan and Malak discovered Dromund Kaas and confronted the Emperor. They fell to the dark side and returned to Republic space as Sith Lords. Since then, dozens more Jedi have followed the same path into evil." (SWTOR: Codex Entry)

Originally posted by Nephthys
Most Jedi who ventured into Imperial space vanished without a trace, but a few managed to send back disturbing messages to their Masters. These fragmented communiques showed the Emperor's Jedi pursuers descending into fear, madness, and evil when faced with his power. It quickly became clear the Sith Emperor was more then a brilliant military strategist and cunning political leader. He was a living embodiment of the dark side of the Force who delighted in destroying the minds and spirits of those Jedi who came too close to him. (SWTORE, Page 88)

Another source indicates that they had actually confronted him:

Jedi Master Tol Braga's strike team was not the first group to succumb to the Sith leader's oppressive influence. Hundreds of years ago, the Jedi Revan and Malak discovered Dromund Kaas and confronted the Emperor. They fell to the dark side and returned to Republic space as Sith Lords. Since then, dozens more Jedi have followed the same path into evil. (SWTOR: Codex Entry)

Anything that indicates an immediacy and lack of preparation?

Other than it being said that he only needed a fraction of his power to dominate Revan and Malak, no specific denial of prep.

To dominate a completely unprepared Revan and Malak. 😬

So? The point is that he can likely use the technique without the need for prep. Revan and Malak's preparedness has no factor in the speed of Vitiates attack or if he needs to prep for it.

It was confirmed he prepared for that.
Logical to assume it happened so quickly due to all the prepared power he harnessed.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Yeah, I know. You fell for my trap. 😬

This was prior to the battle outside Viti's throne room; Revan was banking on easy access to Viti by way of Scourge's station. It backfired and a fight ensued outside.

Viti had ample time to mount some sort of preparation.

Elaborate on what you mean by "outside." The trio successfuly got to the entrance of the throne room, then Revan:

-kicked a dude
-jumped over a dude
-killed an imperial guard (this took like 2-3 seconds)
-opened up the durasteel doors that led into the throne room with TK
-threw down a stone archway

Furthermore: "This time, however, events had moved too quickly and too spontaneously for the Emperor's patient hand to be behind them."

Ample time isn't much time at all. I mean, perhaps ten seconds? That said, I still don't think Vitiate's domination would be too relevant at all, whether against Bane/Zannah or Revan/HoT.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Elaborate on what you mean by "outside." The trio successfuly got to the entrance of the throne room, then Revan:

-kicked a dude
-jumped over a dude
-killed an imperial guard (this took like 2-3 seconds)
-opened up the durasteel doors that led into the throne room with TK
-threw down a stone archway

Ample time isn't much time at all. I mean, perhaps ten seconds?

Who knows? No one's saying he had or needed an hour.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
That said, I still don't think Vitiate's domination would be too relevant at all, whether against Bane/Zannah or Revan/HoT.

Agreed.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Furthermore: "This time, however, events had moved too quickly and too spontaneously for the Emperor's patient hand to be behind them."

For Revan's infiltration of the palace to be plotted by Viti, not for Viti to exploit their distraction and prepare for the ensuing confrontation.