Planet Hulk · Movie Discussion

juggerman Senior Member

Originally posted by carver9
Uuuuummmm, even if he didn't fight like a bone head, what attack of Thor do you think would stop an amped Hulk? His tornado? What about his lightning? What fts does that have to suggest he would stop an amped Hulk? Wait a minute, you are talking about that hit that Thor used during the ending fight that shattered some glass? Do you HONESTLY think that Lick was stronger than the one Hulk used against the big worm?

Thor takes Hulk off his feet and places Mjolnir on him. Hulk will eventually calm down and that would end the hoopla. Or hell Thor can BFR him. Thor has a few way to beat Hulk without having to beat him unconscious. But again Thor will likely resort to fisty cuffs or nothing too damaging since they are teammates and that's what will give Hulk the dub. Just like in the actual WWH arc. People held back cuz they cared about Banner.

juggerman Senior Member

Originally posted by carver9
Kurse easily demolished Thor. If you honestly believe Kurse would do the same to Avengers Hulk, then you are crazy. And that's Avengers Hulk. WWH is a different beast.

Kurse would beat down Avengers Hulk based on their respective fights with Thor

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by juggerman
Kurse would beat down Avengers Hulk based on their respective fights with Thor

I still disagree with this seeing that Hulk easily demolished Loki, something Thor couldn't do, AND, Hulk didn't display the punching power he displayed when Banner had control of the Hulk.

juggerman Senior Member

Originally posted by carver9
I still disagree with this seeing that Hulk easily demolished Loki, something Thor couldn't do, AND, Hulk didn't display the punching power he displayed when Banner had control of the Hulk.

Loki was mid sentence and caught by surprise. And that's blatantly ignoring the fact that Thor was clearly trying to redeem/save Loki and therefore took it easy on him. Thor didn't go all out on Loki like he did the Destroyer right? Cuz he loves Loki and whatnot.

Kurse made a "non holding back" Thor look like a chump whereas a "holding back" Thor made Hulk look like a slow bumbling joke for a good portion of the fight

DARTH POWER Senior Member

Thor flat out says in TDW that he always held back on Loki.

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Originally posted by carver9
Kurse easily demolished Thor. If you honestly believe Kurse would do the same to Avengers Hulk, then you are crazy. And that's Avengers Hulk. WWH is a different beast.

Hulk is not Kurse, so what does it matter? I like how you are ignoring the context behind Kurse. Oh and by the way Hulk barely got the upper hand against a handicapped Thor. Kurse was owning the shit out of all out Thor. The two fights dont even compare. Kurse ***** slapped Mjolnir like a fly. Hulk on the other hand went along for the ride. Just to add a little perspective to your Gamma burned eyes.

And again THor doesn't have to beat Hulk. He just has to fight Hulk to a standstill and he most definitely could if going all out with his hammer.

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by juggerman
Loki was mid sentence and caught by surprise. And that's blatantly ignoring the fact that Thor was clearly trying to redeem/save Loki and therefore took it easy on him. Thor didn't go all out on Loki like he did the Destroyer right? Cuz he loves Loki and whatnot.
Kurse made a "non holding back" Thor look like a chump whereas a "holding back" Thor made Hulk look like a slow bumbling joke for a good portion of the fight

Loki was looking right at Hulk when he got thrown around like swiss cheese. That's not an excuse.

Hulk displayed more power during the end.

juggerman Senior Member

Originally posted by carver9
Loki was looking right at Hulk when he got thrown around like swiss cheese. That's not an excuse.
Hulk displayed more power during the end.

It's not an excuse. It's what happened. Loki was not actively trying to fight or defend himself. So Hulk beat a non fighting back Loki and looked pretty bad against a holding back Thor.

Not really. But since you didn't even try to refute my examples of ways Thor could beat Hulk, even World War Hulk, I guess you agree and we can move past it?

DARTH POWER Senior Member

Plus Loki was without his weapon when he fought Hulk. A weapon he had against Thor. Plus Thor outright stated he always held back on Loki. Plus Thor never even used all his powers against either Loki or Hulk.

So anyone who thinks An all out Thor isn't capable of stalemating an all out Hulk is just plain crazy

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Hulk is more impressive than movie Thor.

juggerman Senior Member

In outright strength

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Originally posted by carver9
Loki was looking right at Hulk when he got thrown around like swiss cheese. That's not an excuse.
Hulk displayed more power during the end.

Honestly this was not one of hulks best showings in the movie.

juggerman Senior Member

He knows. He's trying to say that since Thor "struggled" with Loki but Hulk didn't that means Hulk > Thor. But he needs to leave out critical information for this to even come close to working.

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Originally posted by juggerman
He knows. He's trying to say that since Thor "struggled" with Loki but Hulk didn't that means Hulk > Thor. But he needs to leave out critical information for this to even come close to working.

They had that scene imo because Loki has basically stole the show in every movie from Thor and his band of merry friends. Hulk got his smash in but Loki got back up and walked home with Thor to Asgaurd. To me it shows humor, for both characters but we all know Loki ends up free after all this doing whatever he wants in the end of the day, so Loki wins again without his fists as usual.

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by juggerman
He knows. He's trying to say that since Thor "struggled" with Loki but Hulk didn't that means Hulk > Thor. But he needs to leave out critical information for this to even come close to working.

Wait, let me guess what that information is, Thor held back? Lol.

DARTH POWER Senior Member

Originally posted by carver9
Wait, let me guess what that information is, Thor held back? Lol.

Clearly you haven't seen Thor 2, where Thor flat out States he's always held back on Loki.

Not to mention Loki was missing his Scepter against Hulk and was clearly taken by surprise mid-lecture.

And if you don't believe in any of the above then you can explain why Hulk then couldn't trash Thor in mere seconds.

Robtard Senor Member

We actually see Thor [partially] not holding back on Loki in Avengers, it's right after Loki surprise stabs Thor while the idiot is yet again trying to reason with Loki.

Goes something like this: Angry Thor grabs Loki, overpowers him, kicks him through glass, picks him up over his head and slams him to the ground. Fight last about 4-5 seconds and ends with Loki having to flee.

juggerman Senior Member

Originally posted by carver9
Wait, let me guess what that information is, Thor held back? Lol.

Are you really arguing Thor doesn't hold back on Loki? Or that Loki wasn't mid sentence when Hulk attacked? These are critical point you are just leaving out so your point can work

DARTH POWER Senior Member

Originally posted by juggerman
Are you really arguing Thor doesn't hold back on Loki? Or that Loki wasn't mid sentence when Hulk attacked? These are critical point you are just leaving out so your point can work

Yeah if you take Hulk vs Loki and Thor vs Loki that literally as they were shown, then you would have to explain why Hulk didn't just Stomp Thor in seconds LOL

Anyway some details on Avengers headquarters and looks like there's still no solid plans for a Solo Hulk film anytime soon:

http://www.ecumenicalnews.com/article/avengers-2-age-of-ultron-generous-spoilers-by-kevin-feige-25970

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Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Clearly you haven't seen Thor 2, where Thor flat out States he's always held back on Loki.

Do you remember which scene this was? I would like to re watch it.