Originally posted by LordofBrooklynNot true. Thor has more combat experience.
Thor has greater experience suffering brutal beatings and defeats, yes.Skill that he rarely exhibits initially before brawling first.
Mjolnir gives him power, what has happened when it is separated from him?
He still has a greater power edge as I have proven.
It gives people the power of Thor. Pick up a Thor comic.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I said Apokolips tech and Henshaw weren't impressive. Don't get it twisted. Lol.
Originally posted by quanchi112
We didn't see anything special in hunter and prey so you just invalidated your entire argument. His body was different in hunter and prey so acting like it is durable there doesn't matter because he changes his durability based on the material he uses.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
You mean when Surfer and BRB had him down. Brb came to the aid of Surfer at one point. I think you're misremembering the details of what you brought up. He was down, but never out and moments later he proceeded to one shot BRB. He then went on to stomp Surfer.
No, I'm not misremembering. Thor beat Bill down in THOR #468, with Bill getting a whole two attacks in. Then Surfer comes in at the end of the issue. In SILVER SURFER(V3) #86, Surfer doesn't get a single attack in when they fight one-on-one, and his entire contribution to helping Bill was tackling Thor when Thor and Bill were maybe in a strength lock before seemingly getting two-shotted. Hard to call that "Surfer and BRB downing Thor." It's technically correct, but stretching it. Thor was TKOed by Bill with Surfer's only true contribution is separating the two and keeping Thor busy for a few panels before Thor and Bill have their showdown.
Originally posted by Insane Titan
haha
What a convincing argument.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You didn't read the arc.
I'm just going to tell you I did indeed read the storyline. I have you ignore, and I just want you to know that it has nothing to do with your delusional belief that you win via the Alpha Male act you try to trick everybody with. You being a whiny little troll who can't handle someone violating your rear means you drag things out and you and I always end-up nearly getting banned. I know you'll say shit like you consume me and all this, but we both know deep down this is all to help you feel better about your inadequacies. That is all, you can go on to saying things you know aren't true to help your shattered real life ego.
Originally posted by Delta1938
No, I'm not misremembering. Thor beat Bill down in THOR #468, with Bill getting a whole two attacks in. Then Surfer comes in at the end of the issue. In SILVER SURFER(V3) #86, Surfer doesn't get a single attack in when they fight one-on-one, and his entire contribution to helping Bill was tackling Thor when Thor and Bill were maybe in a strength lock before seemingly getting two-shotted. Hard to call that "Surfer and BRB downing Thor." It's technically correct, but stretching it. Thor was TKOed by Bill with Surfer's only true contribution is separating the two and keeping Thor busy for a few panels before Thor and Bill have their showdown.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Yes it's true he put him down, but Bill admitted to Surfer the fight is not over and that he draws strength from "the madness" reinforcing my claim that he was never out. I couldn't easily agree to your statement of Bill beating Thor as you said from an earlier post. It just wasn't that cut and dry as you yourself explained with Surfer tackling Thor right in the middle of their confrontation. Let's also not forget Bill administered a cheap shot right before that tackle.
And lastly, Bill technically never really fought Thor alone except for the time he was actually alone meaning before Surfer came in to help at the beginning of SS#86. And we all know Bill at that time was totally incapacitated from his beatdown in the issue before(Thor#468).
He had 1v1's, 2v1's, semi 2v1's, many v1's during this arc that were literally one after another.
Bill stated that before they were aware it wasn't actually Warrior's Madness. Fair enough if you thought I was arguing it out of context, but I simply didn't see it relevant to my point since Surfer was pretty much a non-factor. If anything, it would've given Thor time to recover from Bill's sneak attack, since Surfer didn't do any actual damage. And Bill and Thor just stood there for a bit after the sneak attack before Surfer's tackle.
And I know Thor had the winning record against BRB in that arc. I was simply pointing-out that Thor wasn't in actual Warrior's Madness and BRB was able to beat Thor in one of their fights when he had the right mindset. Darkseid is stronger than Bill and wouldn't have the same psychological handicap that Bill had(wanting to help Thor and somewhat trying to reason with him).
Originally posted by Delta1938How did you miss the part where the power gem is clearly amping him ? Unless you think regular Thor can rape, surfer, the watch, and strange it definitely made a difference.I'm just going to tell you I did indeed read the storyline. I have you ignore, and I just want you to know that it has nothing to do with your delusional belief that you win via the Alpha Male act you try to trick everybody with. You being a whiny little troll who can't handle someone violating your rear means you drag things out and you and I always end-up nearly getting banned. I know you'll say shit like you consume me and all this, but we both know deep down this is all to help you feel better about your inadequacies. That is all, you can go on to saying things you know aren't true to help your shattered real life ego.
Ignore me all you want since you can't face me. Keep running. Thor wins. You really need to read that arc by the way.
Originally posted by LordofBrooklynNo, it isn't. Maybe his options are limited and he isn't as formidable but the hammer grants one the powers of Thor. It says so right on the hammer, noob.
You're crumbling.Thor's power is greatly reduced without Mjolnir. We've already seen instances in which he has been separated from the hammer and the results.
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, it isn't. Maybe his options are limited and he isn't as formidable but the hammer grants one the powers of Thor. It says so right on the hammer, noob.
1. Energy absorption
2. Flight
3. Teleportation
4. Dimensional travel
5. Soul Draining
Is Thor capable of any of these abilities(Just to name a few) WITHOUT Mjolnir?
You consider the offensive and defensive abilities lost here to be insignificant?