Originally posted by carver9
He said high end characters. Proteus is included. Magneto fought a depowered Proteus that split himself in half.That's all Proteus would have to do is think of something and it would happen to Doom. Prove that Doom moves faster than thought.
Lol...Blink teleported a ton of sand INSIDE of Hyperion. She can teleport objects inside of Doom and that would literally kill him. Then let's not forget that Doom would have thousands of mutants in front of him attacking him simultaneously. Blink can do whatever she wants to him while he is fighting other mutants. Lol...she can teleport another mutant inside of Doom. Doom dies, easily. He isn't taking on the mutant race by himself. Hell, Apocalypse can beat him solo. A lot of mutants can beat him solo. I honestly don't think you all are thinking. Just think for a bit. Use that noggin.
Who said there was prep for this battle? And he would have to do it as soon as the bell ring but guess what, there are people that can move at light speed. They could kill him before he even got the chance to think about an attack. BP dies and lol at you thinking he could take on the entirety of the mutant race. A freaking low meta.
Proteus isn't the only one he has to worry about. He has to worry about Proteus trying to turn him to a puppy. Blink trying to teleport objects inside of him. Apocalypse trying to mind rape and pound on him with Celestial tech. Magneto trying to rip his armor off. Hope using his own powers against him. Xavier along with hundreds of others mind attack him. People controlling his energy. X treme trying to boil his blood from the inside out. Kitty trying to phase inside of him. Darwin adapting to his attacks and his Boyd creating a counter. Storm throwing lightning and tornados on top of him. Do I honestly need to keep going because that isn't even 1% of the entirety of the mutants. Exodus, Sebastian Shaw, lol, the list goes on and on. Why is it so hard for you to think about this stuff? Stop making me spoon feed you
Again, Doom is highly resistant to transmutation and reality warp so Proteus can't do that. As for faster than thought, who said he was? I mean if we're doing things at thought speed Doom just depowers Proteus as soon as the match starts like he did to Wiccan.
And you know his armor is literally anti-Magneto right?
Oh and Hope can only use powers of mutant, you ignored that.
I thought of everything, and...none of that stops Doom simply depowering them all or making the fight Doombots or using prep to make an anti-mutant armor or simply stealing someone's powers beforehand etc.
As for who said he has prep....I did. I said Doom and other geniuses could do it with prep. Duh.
And everything you named those mutants trying to do would likely fail simply due to Doom's forcefields (stopped phasing from vision) and his ability to direct the likes of Nightcrawler's and Brother Voodoo's teleporting to a point of HIS choosing. So blink's power is likely being used against the mutants.
And even worse, if they somehow get all of that off....it was just a doombot. Then an army of Doombots are there, Doom sat on his power cosmic chair and solos or just overwhelms them with Doombots, or freezes time in the area, or sends them all back in time, etc.
Doom with prep and actually trying and replicating his past feats is ridiculously powerful. He could definitely do this.
Originally posted by Delta1938
huh Legion was a reality manipulator? I thought he was just a really powerful but conventional psi. Did he start conventional and end-up a reality manipulator?
The next time was when he defeated Limbo's Elder Gods by destroying the current universe and making a backup of the original for everything but the Elder Gods, effectively deleting them from existence.
The most recent instance is him doing something which involved building a reality from the raw stuff of universes or some sh1t. You can ask Id or operator616 for more details on that particular feat.
Edit: Notable thing about the latter 2 instances was that neither involved the Moira personality or any of his thousands of other unstable personas. Those feats were performed by the core Legion personality.
Originally posted by DarkRaiden
Again, Doom is highly resistant to transmutation and reality warp so Proteus can't do that. As for faster than thought, who said he was? I mean if we're doing things at thought speed Doom just depowers Proteus as soon as the match starts like he did to Wiccan.And you know his armor is literally anti-Magneto right?
Oh and Hope can only use powers of mutant, you ignored that.
I thought of everything, and...none of that stops Doom simply depowering them all or making the fight Doombots or using prep to make an anti-mutant armor or simply stealing someone's powers beforehand etc.
As for who said he has prep....I did. I said Doom and other geniuses could do it with prep. Duh.
And everything you named those mutants trying to do would likely fail simply due to Doom's forcefields (stopped phasing from vision) and his ability to direct the likes of Nightcrawler's and Brother Voodoo's teleporting to a point of HIS choosing. So blink's power is likely being used against the mutants.
And even worse, if they somehow get all of that off....it was just a doombot. Then an army of Doombots are there, Doom sat on his power cosmic chair and solos or just overwhelms them with Doombots, or freezes time in the area, or sends them all back in time, etc.
Doom with prep and actually trying and replicating his past feats is ridiculously powerful. He could definitely do this.
Prove that he is resistant to planetary level transmutation, especially from the likes of someone like Proteus.
Who said Proteus is the only one in this battle and lol at Doom being able to solo Proteus.
WTF. Hope has mimicked the Phoenix Force before. Read up on your characters.
This isn't a prepped battle my friend.
Originally posted by carver9
Prove that he is resistant to planetary level transmutation, especially from the likes of someone like Proteus.Who said Proteus is the only one in this battle and lol at Doom being able to solo Proteus.
WTF. Hope has mimicked the Phoenix Force before. Read up on your characters.
This isn't a prepped battle my friend.
He resisted transmutation from High Evolutionary when he was changing everyone on earth into stuff.
I didn't say Proteus was the only one, just that he'd be easily handled.
But it is a prepped battle since...I said Doom/T'challa/Reed with prep. Taking out prep means we're discussing nothing since I specified prep.
And Phoenix Force is an ability of a mutant. Just saying. She's also literally part of the family that is able to possess/use the Phoenix Force. If she had other feats of copying powers then maybe. But she doesn't. Proven when she couldn't do anything to Kuurth after copying like 100 mutant powers. If she could copy ANY powers she'd have copied Kuurth's powers and beaten him with that. She didn't. Thus she can't.
Originally posted by Epicurus
He has been a reality warper for nearly a decade going on now. The first time his reality-altering abilities were showcased was when a personality called Moira Mactaggert manifested and stuffed the whole universe inside a box.The next time was when he defeated Limbo's Elder Gods by destroying the current universe and making a backup of the original for everything but the Elder Gods, effectively deleting them from existence.
The most recent instance is him doing something which involved building a reality from the raw stuff of universes or some sh1t. You can ask Id or operator616 for more details on that particular feat.
Edit: Notable thing about the latter 2 instances was that neither involved the Moira personality or any of his thousands of other unstable personas. Those feats were performed by the core Legion personality.
Actually he's been a reality warper only since early 2011.
And btw, the Elder Gods instance was before Age of X. Elder Gods was in New Mutants v3 #21. Age of X followed right after that (When the Moira personality manifested).
the raw stuff of universe instance is from the same arc where his personality put the universe in a box (Age of X). He then goes on to absorb Moira (enabling him to use her power to warp reality) and restored reality (which was in the box) to normal. Note that the "raw stuff of universes" is taking the statement out of context, because the box was confirmed several times to contain a single universe, that statement was merely to indicate that Legion is holding the raw stuff of which universes are composed of (but that doesn't mean that multiple universes were actually contained in the box). Similar to how when a character destroys a single world, he's called "the destroyer of worlds".
The latest reality warp from Legion was erasing himself from existence, thereby erasing his influence on the universe from history (which is pretty impressive). Happened in the last issue of X-Men Legacy v2. But that's a stupid move from the writer, because many Marvel stories are now erased from existence too as a result of this. Even major ones like Age of Apocalypse should be technically erased too now, but im pretty sure it won't.