Assemble a strike team vs Vitiate

Originally posted by Sinious
Well if this is your logic, like I said, Zannah could kill this team as well.

Zannah cannot summon tendrils sorcery in every setting. In addition, tendrils can be dodged and she cannot fill an entire area with tendrils.

Originally posted by Sinious
Common sense lets me see it. It is like saying Nihilus can solo the ones cause the ones didn't show any feats to prove that they can survive his drain.

Originally posted by Sinious
He can focus on the strike team all at once. He would fail though.

Originally posted by Sinious
Hmm, their defensive powers maybe?

Originally posted by Sinious
Are you saying that Sidious and Plagueis lack enough power to be considered in "quality" type combatants?

My point is that Sidious and Plagueis have limits as well. If they find themselves defending against overwhelming powers of Emperor Vitiate, they are in danger of getting overwhelmed as well.

Originally posted by Sinious
You've answered it yourself. They wouldn't let Vitiate charge his attacks and it would come to 2-3 of them cornering him with their saber attacks. Vitiate doesn't stand a chance once 2 of them comes close enough to strike with sabers and this is inevitable since he has no prep or chance to charge and could hold them off for so long.

Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
Exar Kun, Ulic Qel Droma, Arca Jeth and Nomi sunrider. two battle meditations boosting swordsmen that are only equal to each other. Vitiate is dead

Jeth dispelled the dark side in Nadd's tomb, he could provide support and with Nomi's battle med there is nothing to suggest Vit doesn't get speedblitzed.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

Zannah cannot summon tendrils sorcery in every setting. In addition, tendrils can be dodged and she cannot fill an entire area with tendrils.

The Ones are virtually immortal. I don't think Force Drain can undo this.

Exactly. Just like Vitiate cannot mind crush DE Sidious, Plagueis, Tenebrous and Count Dooku at the same time.

Yes, but Emperor have demonstrated the capability to overwhelm defenses of prodigiously talented Force-users. He is possibly the greatest master of sorcery to grace the mythos.

He has never defeated a strike team like this. The worst he ever faced doesn't even come close. (Not including the preped ones)

They are quality individuals. They can strike down Emperor Vitiate, they have the speed and martial abilities to pull this off.

My point is that Sidious and Plagueis have limits as well. If they find themselves defending against overwhelming powers of Emperor Vitiate, they are in danger of getting overwhelmed as well.

So does Vitiate. I know that you're giving credit to the team. Well what I am arguing here is that whether he has a chance or not and Vitiate does not stand a chance against such a team.

I have stated before that this Team packs sufficient conventional punch to defeat Emperor Vitiate. However, it can flop as well, Emperor doesn't have noticeable limitations at unleashing destructive powers and can build pressure on the entire Strike Team. I am just being realistic about this battle on the whole.

Sidious has no combat related limitations that Vitiate is above of and has the advantage of insane lightsaber mastery. With his 3 sith buddies aiding him, I don't see how you can assume Vitiate might actually win this.

Originally posted by carthage
Jeth dispelled the dark side in Nadd's tomb, he could provide support and with Nomi's battle med there is nothing to suggest Vit doesn't get speedblitzed.

The HoT has superior speed feats than any of them and she couldn't blitz a weakened Vitiate with her lightsaber a foot from his face.

Yeah, but he wasn't boosted by battle med in this scenario. With battle med HoT might be able to as well

Exar can counter his sorcery and spam him with blasts, and Ulic can deliver a killing blow while Arca provides support. It'd be a hard fought battle but Fated's team should be able to do it.

Originally posted by Sinious
Exactly. Just like Vitiate cannot mind crush DE Sidious, Plagueis, Tenebrous and Count Dooku at the same time.

How did Emperor Vitiate telepathically subjugate Revan and Malak simultaneously? (With a fraction of his power I may add)

Originally posted by Sinious
He has never defeated a strike team like this. The worst he ever faced doesn't even come close. (Not including the preped ones)

Originally posted by Sinious
So does Vitiate. I know that you're giving credit to the team. Well what I am arguing here is that whether he has a chance or not and Vitiate does not stand a chance against such a team.

Once again, what is stopping Emperor Vitiate from engulfing the entire Strike Team with his destructive powers?

Originally posted by Sinious
Sidious has no combat related limitations that Vitiate is above and has the advantage of insane lightsaber mastery. With his 3 sith buddies aiding him, I don't see how you can assume Vitiate might actually win this.

The (fanon) no-limits fallacy for Darth Sidious makes no sense and neither you can ever expect me to subscribe to this belief. I am being realistic.

Originally posted by carthage
Yeah, but he wasn't boosted by battle med in this scenario. With battle med HoT might be able to as well

Exar can counter his sorcery and spam him with blasts, and Ulic can deliver a killing blow while Arca provides support. It'd be a hard fought battle but Fated's team should be able to do it.

Recheck Emperor's encounter with the Jedi Strike Team led by Tol Braga. Emperor swiftly engulfed the entire Strike Team with his powers. After this, no individual managed to get close to him. Two Jedi were incapacitated immediately and two others did not last more then few seconds.

Bane, Zannah, Cognus, and Worror.

No but Kun is way more than a match for Vitiate if he's prepped as well. He's got force drain, tendrils, and blasts which destroyed portions of Sadow's temple and disintegrated beings. Vitiate alone would be hard pressed to deal with him.

Ulic is faster than Braga (he's dodged blaster bolts) and his force shields have tanked his cannons. Not to mention amped by battle med, how is he going to counter a man who can blow up a building with sorcery and a premier swordsman.

And this strike team is much weaker than the one Sinious came up with

Anyway

My team would be Thanaton, Zannah, Malgus, and Sadow

Sadow could battle med Zannah could support the team with force shields, and Thanaton could provide support as well as fight alongside Malgus.

Maybe a little less effective than the other team I made, and there would be casualties. But they should win a majority imo

Kun's tendrils aren't that great tbh.

They've never been used but in theory should be just as good as Zannah's imo

Zannah had an amp in Ambria when she used them, all Kun did was show Duron how to use them

Originally posted by carthage
They've never been used but in theory should be just as good as Zannah's imo

Zannah had an amp in Ambria when she used them, all Kun did was show Duron how to use them

Well she doesn't know blasts. 😛

Also he was a spirit so the tendrils (in theory) wouldn't be as powerful

Originally posted by carthage
Well she doesn't know blasts. 😛

Everyone seems to have their own little areas within Sith Sorcery that they focus on.

Originally posted by carthage
No but Kun is way more than a match for Vitiate if he's prepped as well. He's got force drain, tendrils, and blasts which destroyed portions of Sadow's temple and disintegrated beings. Vitiate alone would be hard pressed to deal with him.

Bigger issue is how Exar Kun would cope with destructive powers of Emperor Vitiate, the former isn't going to last long. Revan have demonstrated superior defensive abilities then Exar Kun and he was utterly outgunned by Emperor Vitiate.

Originally posted by carthage
Ulic is faster than Braga (he's dodged blaster bolts) and his force shields have tanked his cannons. Not to mention amped by battle med, how is he going to counter a man who can blow up a building with sorcery and a premier swordsman.

Originally posted by carthage
And this strike team is much weaker than the one Sinious came up with

Every member of the Strike Team led by Tol Braga is officially one of the strongest and most resolute Jedi of the Order. And HoT is Yoda level.

LOL Braga's a dumbass though. He may be skilled and powerful, but he can be really ****ing stupid.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Bane, Zannah, Cognus, and Worror.

Worror will be non-factor. The other 3 are unlikely to withstand destructive powers of Emperor Vitiate for long.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
LOL Braga's a dumbass though. He may be skilled and powerful, but he can be really ****ing stupid.