Assemble a strike team vs Vitiate

Started by Emperordmb5 pages

Battle meditation is hardly a non-factor.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Battle meditation is hardly a non-factor.

Hmm! The greatest warriors of this team need to act swiftly and not give Emperor Vitiate a chance to attack. If he does, game over for the Strike Team.

How is the HoT Yoda level? Especially well before their in game prime?

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Hmm! The greatest warriors of this team need to act swiftly and not give Emperor Vitiate a chance to attack. If he does, game over for the Strike Team.

You are such a fanboy, lol.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Hmm! The greatest warriors of this team need to act swiftly and not give Emperor Vitiate a chance to attack. If he does, game over.

This team is incredibly lethal, with Bane bringing the offense with his lightsaber and lightning, Zannah whipping out the tendrils, Cognus weakening Vitiate with force suppression and using highly advanced precog to predict Vitiate's moves, and Worror providing the group with battle meditation, healing, and force bubbles if the situation requires it.

He just said that Kun didn't hold a candle to Vitiate. He will likely say the same thing regarding Bane (who toppled a temple on a nexus). You may as well be arguing with a brick all.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
How is the HoT Yoda level? Especially well before their in game prime?

Well before from prime?

I don't think HoT had years at his disposal to grow in power afterwards.

Originally posted by carthage
You may as well be arguing with a brick wall.

You are describing every debate I've ever had with you.

Originally posted by carthage
He just said that Kun didn't hold a candle to Vitiate. He will likely say the same thing regarding Bane (who toppled a temple on a nexus). You may as well be arguing with a brick all.

Emperor Vitiate had over a thousand years to grow in power and hone his talents in the dark side. According to Legends, he is the most powerful Force-user ever. You don't have a point.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Well before from prime?

HoT was already at advanced stages of his progress at that time. After this event, HoT ventured in to one more planet and some ships before visiting Dromund Kaas. This entire process would have taken some months?

Actually its 3 more planets.

Yep, those several months plus the several months they spent on the Emperor's space station.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Actually its 3 more planets.

My bad.

So how much time? His entire story covers 3 years. Some of this time was spent under influence of Emperor Vitiate.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Yep, those several months plus the several months they spent on the Emperor's space station.

And this isn't enough time for considerable power progression.

Yeah it is.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Yeah it is.

It isn't.

It takes years to have noticeable growth in understanding of the Force and power. HoT was already very powerful by the time he arrived on Tython.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
It isn't.

It takes years to have noticeable growth in understanding of the Force and power. HoT was already very powerful by the time he arrived on Tython.


I can't even...

Even with the HoT, Scourge would have killed them just a few weeks earlier. It's not like the HoT came to Tython capable of doing all they do in game.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
It isn't.

It takes years to have noticeable growth in understanding of the Force and power. HoT was already very powerful by the time he arrived on Tython.

Scourge states that he could have defeated the Hero and Sajar together on Quesh, yet the Hero alone defeats him a single planet later. The Hero states that she's grown considerably between her fights with the Emperor. Plus you forget that while the Hero was under Vitiates control she was training.

Many times in the mythos, prodigies have grown very quickly.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
No.

Zannah cannot summon tendrils sorcery in every setting. In addition, tendrils can be dodged and she cannot fill an entire area with tendrils.

The Ones are virtually immortal. I don't think Force Drain can undo this.

Not necessarily.

Yes, but Emperor have demonstrated the capability to overwhelm defenses of prodigiously talented Force-users. He is possibly the greatest master of sorcery to grace the mythos.

They are quality individuals. They can strike down Emperor Vitiate, they have the speed and martial abilities to pull this off.

My point is that Sidious and Plagueis have limits as well. If they find themselves defending against overwhelming powers of Emperor Vitiate, they are in danger of getting overwhelmed as well.

I have stated before that this Team packs sufficient conventional punch to defeat Emperor Vitiate. However, it can flop as well, Emperor doesn't have noticeable limitations at unleashing destructive powers and can build pressure on the entire Strike Team. I am just being realistic about this battle on the whole.

Well, I don't wanna sound like Carthage but this is Vitate without prep and you must admit that there is a big difference when he is not prepped. He is still insanely powerful but claiming that he has a chance against DE Sidious, Plagueis, Tenebrous and Count Dooku is just illogical.

You've already admitted that Sidious vs Vitiate is a close one and it could go either ways right? So, Im starting to think that you're underrating the other 3 sith so much that you believe that they wouldn't make any difference against Vitiate. Is this the case? (Just asking to understand your logic)

Also, I've never said that Sidious has no limits. I just said Sidious isn't less capable in combats.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
This team is incredibly lethal, with Bane bringing the offense with his lightsaber and lightning, Zannah whipping out the tendrils, Cognus weakening Vitiate with force suppression and using highly advanced precog to predict Vitiate's moves, and Worror providing the group with battle meditation, healing, and force bubbles if the situation requires it.

This team is undoubtedly good but Emperor Vitiate wields more formidable powers then any member of this team and have a good chance at subduing it.

Emperor's inferiors possessed these talents but assassination attempts on him had always ended in failure. Emperor Vitiate most likely have excellent defensive abilities.

Strike Teams assembled by Jedi and Sith to assassinate or capture Emperor Vitiate weren't lacking in talents either. They still flopped.

For example: Warren Sedoru had the talent to read minds of other individuals. He was the first Jedi (of the Strike Team led by Tol Braga) to ignite his lightsaber and get ready to defend himself or attack Emperor Vitiate, he may have figured out that Emperor Vitiate was about to attack the Jedi. Yet, this didn't help since Emperor's powers were simply too much to handle.

This strike team is superior to the one in his fortress by a considerable margin.