OWAW Thor

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Originally posted by Philosophía
I assumed that Thor is standing still, and hitting the planet. Does he gets trans-light, energy-engulfed, planet(maybe?) bullrushing that BRB did? Because that changes the answer completely. Don't play dumb.

I hope you're not implying worlds were pulverized in the Gorr instance, are you? Because shattering certainly does not involve what, say, Hulk did. In that same issue, the next damn page, he was physically struggling to hold parts of the moon together, did he not? Please, correct me on this 🙂

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Wow....

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
So destroying a planet doesn't count if it doesn't involve your view of how they should be destroyed? I wasn't aware that bullrushing a planet and destroying it didn't count as destroying a planet.
Tell me more of your guidelines of planet destroying capabilities. Did Superman really destroy the shadow moon? Can you tell me what that means with this new information being provided?

So destroying a planet only counts if it follows what Hulk did or something?

Of course it counts as destroying a planet but, as far as discerning the physical strength of Beta Ray Bill, no, it does not. It's a erroneous, gross simplification to say that he is "strong enough to destroy a planet".

If I'm flying at mach 1 and hitting Brock Lesnar in the face, I will knock him out in one punch, undoubtedly.

If I'm standing still, I cannot do that.

Can I say I'm strong enough to KO Brock Lesnar in one punch?

Like I said, don't play dumb.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
EDIT: He put the moon back together and healed it... he definitely did that with pure strength hence the strength lightning bolts. Clearly he struggled to put the moon back together with pure strength as opposed to struggling to use his powers to heal the moon. From blowing up.

There's an actual panel showing him physically pushing parts of the moon and shitting himself in the process.

It's the one with "HHHHHRRRRGGGGHHHH!!!", if it helps.

Blind?

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Originally posted by abhilegend
Actually I know more about that feat than you do.
so enlighten me on what part of the world tree feat makes it not even close in comparison

Originally posted by Philosophía
Of course it counts as destroying a planet but, as far as discerning the physical strength of Beta Ray Bill, no, it does not. It's a erroneous, gross simplification to say that he is "strong enough to destroy a planet".

If I'm flying at mach 1 and hitting Brock Lesnar in the face, I will knock him out in one punch, undoubtedly.

If I'm standing still, I cannot do that.

Can I say I'm strong enough to KO Brock Lesnar in one punch?

Like I said, don't play dumb.


I was unaware that you could fly at mach 1 under your own power. Do you come out uninjured when you crash into things as well?
Considering it is completely within your own power to fly at mach 1, then there's no reason to make a distinction between strength and speed.

Beta destroyed a planet easily with said speed. Thor was shattering worlds without Brock Lesnar KO speed. It was purely attributed to speed, and the extra hammer hit right before impact was unneeded according to you?

Hell, it even said they were shaking the universe with their battle. Must have been some speed.

Though I don't get the separation either considering at no point in time in this thread, or anything I said would limit Thor to have no flight at this time. Seems you're making up strict Phildo guidelines and expecting everyone else to follow them.

Originally posted by Philosophía
Of course it counts as destroying a planet

Good point though.

Originally posted by Philosophía
There's an actual panel showing him physically pushing parts of the moon and shitting himself in the process.

It's the one with "HHHHHRRRRGGGGHHHH!!!", if it helps.

Blind?

Which was immediately followed by Thor unleashing a ton of lightning to fix the moon.
He did the same thing when he absorbed the Sword, was jumping through the air prior to an attack, getting tortured, etc.

There was more going on there than purely physical strength. Unless you think pushing the moon back together is hard, but blasting lightning all over the moon to miraculously heal it is easy.

Though, speaking of blind, this is the exact thing you're trying to divert attention from:

Which was without using mach 1 Brock Lesnar knocking out powers.

Either way, Thor can destroy planets with speed and just standing still. I'm glad we got that settled. 👆

Though I'm sure we could get into Thor's hammer hits vs Gladiator's punches to see who comes out on top, and come to the conclusion that even if he wasn't shattering worlds literally in comics, he should be more than capable of.
Which was my point before you started ignoring proof. Just because one can do one or the other, it doesn't seem to matter much in impressiveness inside of comics.

But yes, tell me more of why nothing Thor does in comics counts. That probably has an underlying point in it somewhere.

I see the ridiculousness of that feat still causes butthurt to certain members of the House of El..

It's pointless in trying to rationalize what Thor did in that issue all just to downplay the feat. The absurdity of it is so obscene that detractors can't or won't wrap their mind around it.

Sad really.....

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
I was unaware that you could fly at mach 1 under your own power. Do you come out uninjured when you crash into things as well?
Considering it is completely within your own power to fly at mach 1, then there's no reason to make a distinction between strength and speed.

Beta destroyed a planet easily with said speed. Thor was shattering worlds without Brock Lesnar KO speed. It was purely attributed to speed, and the extra hammer hit right before impact was unneeded according to you?

Hell, it even said they were shaking the universe with their battle. Must have been some speed.

Though I don't get the separation either considering at no point in time in this thread, or anything I said would limit Thor to have no flight at this time. Seems you're making up strict Phildo guidelines and expecting everyone else to follow them.

Good point though.

Which was immediately followed by Thor unleashing a ton of lightning to fix the moon.
He did the same thing when he absorbed the Sword, was jumping through the air prior to an attack, getting tortured, etc.

There was more going on there than purely physical strength. Unless you think pushing the moon back together is hard, but blasting lightning all over the moon to miraculously heal it is easy.

Though, speaking of blind, this is the exact thing you're trying to divert attention from:

Which was without using mach 1 Brock Lesnar knocking out powers.

Either way, Thor can destroy planets with speed and just standing still. I'm glad we got that settled. 👆

Though I'm sure we could get into Thor's hammer hits vs Gladiator's punches to see who comes out on top, and come to the conclusion that even if he wasn't shattering worlds literally in comics, he should be more than capable of.
Which was my point before you started ignoring proof. Just because one can do one or the other, it doesn't seem to matter much in impressiveness inside of comics.

But yes, tell me more of why nothing Thor does in comics counts. That probably has an underlying point in it somewhere.

Amazing. Didn't know about the shaking of the universe. That reminds me of the time when Superman and Doomsday fought and it was stated that their fight shook the earth to the core (just want to throw that out there just in case someone wants to deny what was said about Bill).

Good link Bran.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
I see the ridiculousness of that feat still causes butthurt to certain members of the House of El..

It's pointless in trying to rationalize what Thor did in that issue all just to downplay the feat. The absurdity of it is so obscene that detractors can't or won't wrap their mind around it.

Sad really.....

If Superman had done it they'd have it as a sig pic and still mention it in every thread they post in.

Originally posted by Silent Master
If Superman had done it they'd have it as a sig pic and still mention it in every thread they post in.

Going by his logic, Dr. Veritas was lying to Clark when she stated that he was benching virtual earth weight since in the same damn comic, he could not break free from the grip of a decaying dragon (admittedly so) and was only producing mountain toppling punches.
🙁

Thor absolutely replicates OWAW. He's far more powerful than Superman.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor absolutely replicates OWAW. He's far more powerful than Superman.

With or without an amp?

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
With or without an amp?
He does so under the provisions of the thread.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He does so under the provisions of the thread.

THIS, is the way to knowledge!

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
THIS, is the way to knowledge!
Thor does it better though due to more experience and being more powerful.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor does it better though due to more experience and being more powerful.

This is preboot Superman and as such has more than a millenium's worth of fighting experience.

Thor does succeed but that legendary damage soak gets pushed to the extreme.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
This is preboot Superman and as such has more than a millenium's worth of fighting experience.

Thor does succeed but that legendary damage soak gets pushed to the extreme.

That isn't equal to Thor's fighting experience. Cling to that story though as it still isn't enough.

Thor comes out on top.

Make mine marvel.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Going by his logic, Dr. Veritas was lying to Clark when she stated that he was benching virtual earth weight since in the same damn comic, he could not break free from the grip of a decaying dragon (admittedly so) and was only producing mountain toppling punches.
🙁

Kryptonian Dragon. After not having enough time to recharge with the Sun.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Kryptonian Dragon. After not having enough time to recharge with the Sun.
Why did he not drop his mental blocks and rise above his peers and break that dragons grip?

Originally posted by JBL
Why did he not drop his mental blocks and rise above his peers and break that dragons grip?

I don't think DCNU has the training to drop the mental blocks. That's what he was doing under ground, pushing himself.

Originally posted by JBL
Why did he not drop his mental blocks and rise above his peers and break that dragons grip?

Because he beat it anyway and first wanted to see what he fights, except of this, he rises above others when it is necessary, see the DCnU DD fight.