Originally posted by pym-ftw
DcNU =/= Owaw... just stop your only making yourself the butt of the forum's joke posters.
Pete did this on the Orion(Pre-FLASHPOINT) vs Gladiator topic as well when Superman was brought-up as a strength comparison for Orion. Either JBL is functionally retarded and thinks it's a correct argument, or knows he's wrong and is a desperate liar.
Originally posted by Delta1938Your bias love for superman is known throughout this forum. You made yourself look foolish in the galactus vs doomsday thread. Anybody that goes against superman in anything draws a boat load of butthurt superman fans with insults. 😘
Pete did this on the Orion(Pre-FLASHPOINT) vs Gladiator topic as well when Superman was brought-up as a strength comparison for Orion. Either JBL is functionally retarded and thinks it's a correct argument, or knows he's wrong and is a desperate liar.
Originally posted by Peter Parker
Your bias love for superman is known throughout this forum. You made yourself look foolish in the galactus vs doomsday thread. Anybody that goes against superman in anything draws a boat load of butthurt superman fans with insults. 😘
OK, Pr is telling us to get back on topic. I'll simply say you are completely wrong because I never argued Doomsday won, and you clearly didn't read what I actually wrote. In fact my first post there was wondering why the topic wasn't closed 9 years ago. And no, I don't think Doomsday wins.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
That same logic works in way of lifting. Given time I could lift all of Earth's weight individually.Though if we're working from the time angle of a human with a sledgehammer or superspeed, gravity would just put everything back together before any harm is done.
And thus I have definitively proven destroying a planet is more impressive. Using a shitty analogy with no bearing on comics.
Which is why I find this sig so intriguing. I don't give a shit about it but when people are so invested in proving one is better than the other, it's funny when stuff like this pops up. Superman can lift said Earth but can't destroy it. OMG fact!
When in reality both are impossibly impressive in both comics and the real world. Until one can definitively prove one is better than the other outside analogies that so obviously favor their stance, I see no reason to act like one is better than the other in comic logic. Sometimes a "stalemate" is a better conclusion than making cake analogies and whatever the blue dick shit JBL is talking about.
Looking at it feat wise. Superman can lift the Earth but can't destroy it. Thor can destroy the Earth but can't lift it.
Which rounds out to a screwed up average that pleases no one.
I'm sure push comes to shove both could do the other but it hasn't been shown so people get to make up horseshit about why one is better than the other that only makes them feel better about themselves and in the end proves nothing. Hell Hyperion can stop planets at half of light speed instantly and Gladiator can destroy planets. There doesn't seem to be a vast difference in strength between them.Meh, I'll go with about equal myself.
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Originally posted by PhilosophíaConsidering he was shattering worlds indirectly in his fight with Gorr, and Beta Ray Bill has destroyed planets...
If you're referring to normal Thor, using his physical might to destroy, or lift the Earth then no - he is far from being capable of doing that.
Might as well say Superman never benched the planet if we're going to go the route of ignoring proof.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Considering he was shattering world[b]s indirectly in his fight with Gorr, and Beta Ray Bill has destroyed planets...Might as well say Superman never benched the planet if we're going to go the route of ignoring proof. [/B]
Thor's feats don't count, didn't you know that?
Originally posted by Branlor SwiftI assumed that Thor is standing still, and hitting the planet. Does he gets trans-light, energy-engulfed, planet(maybe?) bullrushing that BRB did? Because that changes the answer completely. Don't play dumb.
Considering he was shattering world[b]s indirectly in his fight with Gorr, and Beta Ray Bill has destroyed planets... [/B]
I hope you're not implying worlds were pulverized in the Gorr instance, are you? Because shattering certainly does not involve what, say, Hulk did. In that same issue, the next damn page, he was physically struggling to hold parts of the moon together, did he not? Please, correct me on this 🙂
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Originally posted by PhilosophíaSo destroying a planet doesn't count if it doesn't involve your view of how they should be destroyed? I wasn't aware that bullrushing a planet and destroying it didn't count as destroying a planet.
I assumed that Thor is standing still, and hitting the planet. Does he gets trans-light, energy-engulfed, planet(maybe?) bullrushing that BRB did? Because that changes the answer completely. Don't play dumb.I hope you're not implying worlds were pulverized in the Gorr instance, are you? Because shattering certainly does not involve what, say, Hulk did.
So destroying a planet only counts if it follows what Hulk did or something?
Fine, replace Thor with Hulk/Gladiator/Red She Hulk in my example. What. Changes. About. What. I. Said.
I chose Thor because he was in this thread, and because he has shattered worlds as well as his equal doing the same. Apparently that doesn't count because it doesn't follow phildo guidelines? It still doesn't change the point even if you were right, which you aren't.
Also nothing I said, or anything in this thread spoke of a scenario where Thor would be standing still hitting a planet anyway... I don't even get where that Phildo strict guideline came from.
EDIT: He put the moon back together and healed it... he definitely did that with pure strength hence the strength lightning bolts. Clearly he struggled to put the moon back together with pure strength as opposed to struggling to use his powers to heal the moon. From blowing up.
