Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Of course she did, because despite what you may have though about her before, the Exile couldn't resist the charms of a mass murderer who tried to crush her in a gravity vortex. Especially after being betrayed by her mentor only recently. Secret love. Revan gets them all in the end.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Very true. KotOR 2 made it seem like Revan hated Meetra.
I got the feeling that he loved her like a Sister, but he knew that if she remained, she would halt his ascension to the Sith.
I mean come on, Surik could have single handedly ruined Revan, she had more of a fleet, she had Better Battle meditation, she could definitely have killed him when he was a Darth...
And if she couldn't, she and Bastilla could have.
She was the last thing holding up the Republic, and he had to kill her.
Revan>Bastila's Battle Meditation, Malak's word is law.
The Exile might have been a threat, but I doubt she would have ever been able to kill Revan. She was known more for her leadership abilities than her power. Also, if the really wanted to turn her, he'd take her with him to fight Mandalore. Literally no one except for the Exile left the battle unturned.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Since when did Meetra have BM?
It's heavily hinted.
It's an ability listed in the Kotor CG, then Bao Dur talks about how Meetra appearing on a battlefield inspired the troops, how he looked on her in awe, would have done anything for her, stayed for her not for Revan etc.
There's just a few lines that basically hint she used BM subconsciously.
Never to Bastilla's level, but yeh.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Bao-Dur practically went down on her whenever they spoke though, so him saying stuff like that is just par for the course. And I just looked and I didn't see her being listed as having it in the Kotor CG.Not really convinced.
It doesnt? Uhhh, I need to check then, I was going off memory.
Agreed about the Bao-Dur thing, but it's still a fair point.
I'll look into it a little more, there are other theories.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Yeah, I don't see it either.
Huh, you're right.
Lemme go search for shit and see.
Either way we've got the Onderon feat, which the Wookiee considers Canon, and that one was pretty impressive.
Lemme go search through Sources and shizzle, see where I was getting that from.
Well shit. The response I was typing got ****ed up so Ima have to start over.
Don't challenge me on my statements regarding the ones based on my current lack of access to Apocalypse when you haven't even seen the TCW episodes.
I'll look more into the Dread masters.
By that token most of your argument about the Ones is baseless since you haven't seen the TCW episodes. In any case you are putting words into my mouth by exaggerating what I said. I never said that he obliterated mountains. Merely that he blasted massive holes in them. It is irrelevant though. His TCW lightning feat is all I really need to prove that his lightning is the most powerful.
A feat achieved through presence or sheer willpower is more impressive than if it were achieved through ritual. The Son instantly withered away and disintegrated plantlife in a lush fertile area, reducing it to a barren wasteland plagued by intense lightning storms. The Daughter instantly caused plantlife to sprout up in a barren wasteland, instantly turning it into a lush fertile area. No Jedi or Sith has transformed an environment to this extent this suddenly, and anything coming close to this was achieved through ritual.
Didn't Jadus just teleport around the bridge of his ship?
Then give me the feat for Traya that rivals this.
Then give me examples for this ancient Sith necromancy. Ahsoka was quite literally infected with the dark side, and the Daughter simultaneously resurrected Ahsoka and purged her of this infection at the same time while mortally wounded.
Nobody else in the mythos though could best Anakin in melee combat this quickly and casually.
Has the BM of Bastila Shan granted an entire race the ability to fly through space, extract and melt ore from asteroids, and phase through matter, from halfway across the Galaxy on a planet designed to cut her off from the outside Galaxy? Bastila's BM isn't remotely on this level.
Centerpoint Station is roughly 100,000 years old, and the Ones arrived on "Abeloth's Planet" before that, and the Father was already in his old age by that point. Not to mention that time passes a thousand times faster on Mortis. This easily puts the length of the Father's life in the billions. Point being that the Father's decline after billions of years does not prove the Ones' inferiority to any other character when nobody else's lifespan has been tested anywhere near this much.
No it is you who has not understood this simple concept. Everybody else on here seems to get it but you. If you look at Canon and Legends as two separate continuities as they should be looked at, then there is no proof that the hierarchy was abolished in Legends, with the hierarchy itself technically being a Legends source, so T-Canon>C-Canon and TCW>SWTORE. If you think that the Canon and Legends continuities are applicable to each other for what ever reason, then Canon>Legends and TCW>SWTORE. Either way TCW>SWTORE, and I and many others don't get why this is such a difficult concept for you to grasp.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDActually they did, its n-canon. Just not n-canon in terms of never ever canon.
I understand but importance of Legends continuity have not diminished. It is relevant consultation source for Disney and should be for fans as well.Otherwise, Disney could simply declare EU content N-canon. Legends is not N-canon.
But still n-canon in the eyes of Disney. Call it Legends canon if you want but that's what it is.
Don't cry.
Meeta Surik using BM:
And according to Chee:
Anything that doesn't contradict or exist purely for gameplay is C-canon.
https://twitter.com/HolocronKeeper/status/383263147445854208
It's in a cutscene of sorts, and has an influential impact on the story, I don't think we can dismiss this as non-canonical.
@ SW Legend
Vitiate achieved climate effect by rituals where Son's mere presence was enough.
Jadus could only teleport close range yet Son's TP seems limitless range wise.
Satele Shan had a lot of trouble "surviving" Malgus' lightsaber where the ones could easily block it and grab it even.
Bastila's BM is nothing compared to what the ones did to some of the ancient races.
Dread Masters also achieved a lot of things by rituals, dark side tools, and by combining their powers. Each one of them were strong enough to be a dark lord of the sith of a more humble era and so your argument is that combining 6 dark lords' powers comes close to the son and that makes him less superior to the rest?
There are hundreds of force users in galactic history and some of them achieved a single and lesser version of the Ones' feats. They are the full package and all of their feats are superior to anything you compare them. No sith or jedi is in their tier. I don't understand what is there to debate.
Originally posted by BeniboyblingAnd according to Chee:
Anything that doesn't contradict or exist purely for gameplay is C-canon.
https://twitter.com/HolocronKeeper/status/383263147445854208