Originally posted by Silent Master
Not to mention, Thor considers the Hulk a friend and thus won't be trying to seriously injure him, whereas Hulk appears to once again be controlled in some way and thus will be going "all out" in order to either maim or kill Thor.
Plus don't forget the emotional fallout from his prized hammer being gone. I mean...he tried to murder Captain America with that hammer, it holds memories.
Originally posted by Surtur
Plus don't forget the emotional fallout from his prized hammer being gone. I mean...he tried to murder Captain America with that hammer, it holds memories.
True, but it's not like he knew who Cap was, all he knew was that it's a guy attacking him and trying to prevent him from returning Loki home so he can face justice.
To summarize what people brought up:
Thor - Lacking standard gear. Emotionally compromised due to loss of loved one. Still see's Hulk as a friend so will not try to murder him
Hulk - Having non standard armor weapons. Enraged. Going all out and trying to murder
Did I miss anything? Thor's defo going into this gimped while Hulk is amped
Originally posted by Robtard
To summarize what people brought up:Thor - Lacking standard gear. Emotionally compromised due to loss of loved one. Still see's Hulk as a friend so will not try to murder him
Hulk - Having non standard armor weapons. Enraged. Going all out and trying to murder
Did I miss anything? Thor's defo going into this gimped while Hulk is amped
And yet, something surprising will happen in the fight. The last images in the first teaser were Thor and Hulk charging each other from opposite corners and meeting in mid-air. holding no weapons. And we see definite H2H with weapons in the second trailer. So obviously they go through a very extended fight. Thor is set up as an underdog with no mjolnir, but it looks like he will be pulling something out his immortal bag of tricks and will be the contender Valkyrie promised the Grandmaster. Maybe a lightning strike will erupt out of him, ending the fight due to disqualification. We do see on the bifrost bridge Thor is pulling the lightning out against Hela...
Curious as to how the obedience disks will work in the movie, to ensure Hulk and other Gladiators stay in their place. I wonder if it's connected to the paint some characters wear...
Originally posted by quanchi112
The excuses are piling in already.😂
Looks like when Hulk has a weapon it's unfair but Thor having a weapon is fair game. Interesting. Bias me thinks.
Dumb comparison and you know it. Hulk being armed to the teeth isn't standard gear for him.
Mjolnir to Thor is like a Lightsaber to a Jedi.
Almost as bad as gimping Green Labtern without his ring, given how powerful Mjolnir is. But to be fair it's only a conduit for Thor's own power. But one it seems he's got too dependant on at this point.
Originally posted by Darth ThorThe fact Hulk doesn't need a weapon makes my case he's the powerhouse even more so. It's undeniable. Thor needs a war hammer and armor typically but when you arm Hulk and Thor you cry foul. Excuses. Bias.
Dumb comparison and you know it. Hulk being armed to the teeth isn't standard gear for him.Mjolnir to Thor is like a Lightsaber to a Jedi.
Almost as bad as gimping Green Labtern without his ring, given how powerful Mjolnir is. But to be fair it's only a conduit for Thor's own power. But one it seems he's got too dependant on at this point.
Is Thor armed against the Hulk or not ?
Thor is the God of thunder so quit crying and creating a false comparison between he and a green lantern.
They already fought with his hammer and he didn't win. He didn't even look superior so quit with all the excuses.
Originally posted by Silent Master
True, but it's not like he knew who Cap was, all he knew was that it's a guy attacking him and trying to prevent him from returning Loki home so he can face justice.
Yeah, but he did not get that angry over Iron Man though lol. If he'd hit IM with that much force their fight would have ended a lot sooner.
Wait, I think I know why Thor hates Cap. Remember in Avengers 2 when Cap manages to at least budge the hammer a bit and Thor looks like he is about to start crying? I think Thor immediately sensed that upon first seeing him. Cap had to go, nobody wields the hammer but Thor. Right now he is thinking up ways to kill Vision.
Originally posted by quanchi112
The fact Hulk doesn't need a weapon makes my case he's the powerhouse even more so. It's undeniable. Thor needs a war hammer and armor typically but when you arm Hulk and Thor you cry foul. Excuses. Bias.
Hulk clearly does need weapons to match a Mjolnirless Thor.
That's what we're being shown in Ragnarok.
Originally posted by quanchi112Is Thor armed against the Hulk or not ?
Thor is the God of thunder so quit crying and creating a false comparison between he and a green lantern.
They already fought with his hammer and he didn't win. He didn't even look superior so quit with all the excuses.
You think those swords he's wielding are a match for Mjolnir?
It's not excuses it's called context. Hulk's never faced the wrath of Thor's full power set. Thor on the other hand is about to face a Hulk armed to the teeth.
Originally posted by Darth ThorHulk already fought a hammer wielding Thor without any weapons and he came across as better. Facts.
Hulk clearly does need weapons to match a Mjolnirless Thor.That's what we're being shown in Ragnarok.
You think those swords he's wielding are a match for Mjolnir?
It's not excuses it's called context. Hulk's never faced the wrath of Thor's full power set. Thor on the other hand is about to face a Hulk armed to the teeth.
So somehow them being both armed is unfair for poor little Thor. Oh the bias and the excuses. Hulk wasn't armed against Thor in avengers one so quit being a hypocrite. I think both sets of weapons are comparable in this scene. I don't think Hulk's weapons are comparable to Mjolnir either but he already took him on weaponless and didn't lose. It seems Thor is allowed armor and a weak but if you give the same to Hulk you're losing your shit. Hulk being the powerhouse can fight shirtless and without a weapon while you admit Thor can't do so without you crying about. That's because Hulk is the powerhouse Thor is the skilled warrior. I'm right.
By your own logic neither did Kurse and he decimated Thor. Just because you don't like his tactics that doesn't mean you get to ignore the outcome because your insane bias and excuse making for the character. That's what losers do cry about what should have happened or what would have happened not what did happen.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I am passionate yes but I always go with the facts and where logic lead me.
Which is why I'm asking how you'd react if Thor comes out shown as superior. Remember, just like in comic books, comic book movies do not always operate on logic. This a Thor film and it might even be the final one. It is genuinely possible for Thor to be shown as superior even if it makes no sense.
Originally posted by Surturanything is possible in fiction but as I said I am objective and I like the Thor fans who have already given excuses before even witnessing the fight and the context to it I'll deal with it. I accept facts with an open mind. Always.
Which is why I'm asking how you'd react if Thor comes out shown as superior. Remember, just like in comic books, comic book movies do not always operate on logic. This a Thor film and it might even be the final one. It is genuinely possible for Thor to be shown as superior even if it makes no sense.
quanchi112 has been on this board for years. Did I not notice him acting like a argumentative troll dick all these years, or is this something new? 🙄
(I haven't posted much on this forum the last couple of years, so my memory is fuzzy. Maybe he's been hacked/possessed by the banned Whirlysplat, wherever he is...)