Originally posted by roughrider
quanchi112 has been on this board for years. Did I not notice him acting like a argumentative troll dick all these years, or is this something new? 🙄(I haven't posted much on this forum the last couple of years, so my memory is fuzzy. Maybe he's been hacked/possessed by the banned Whirlysplat, wherever he is...)
He's always been like this, in fact he has slightly mellowed over the years.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Hulk already fought a hammer wielding Thor without any weapons and he came across as better. Facts.So somehow them being both armed is unfair for poor little Thor. Oh the bias and the excuses. Hulk wasn't armed against Thor in avengers one so quit being a hypocrite. I think both sets of weapons are comparable in this scene. I don't think Hulk's weapons are comparable to Mjolnir either but he already took him on weaponless and didn't lose. It seems Thor is allowed armor and a weak but if you give the same to Hulk you're losing your shit. Hulk being the powerhouse can fight shirtless and without a weapon while you admit Thor can't do so without you crying about. That's because Hulk is the powerhouse Thor is the skilled warrior. I'm right.
By your own logic neither did Kurse and he decimated Thor. Just because you don't like his tactics that doesn't mean you get to ignore the outcome because your insane bias and excuse making for the character. That's what losers do cry about what should have happened or what would have happened not what did happen.
Are weapons standard for Hulk yes or no?
Does Thor fire lightning on the vast majority of his opponents yes or no?
Has Thor ever shot Lightning at Hulk yes or no?
Did Kurse squat away Mjolnir yes or no?
You've really got no argument here. It's not an excuse, it's the facts. They have to semi depower Thor and arm Hulk to the teeth for it to be an evenly matched fight.
Just like they amped Iron Man against Thor. Couldn't have been a fight otherwise.
Originally posted by Darth ThorThat doesn't matter. Do you honestly think the weapons are superior to the hulk ? Both are armed. Hulk doesn't have superior weapons to Thor. If anything this proves he's a powerhouse since he doesn't typically have them or armor.
Are weapons standard for Hulk yes or no?Does Thor fire lightning on the vast majority of his opponents yes or no?
Has Thor ever shot Lightning at Hulk yes or no?
Did Kurse squat away Mjolnir yes or no?
You've really got no argument here. It's not an excuse, it's the facts. They have to semi depower Thor and arm Hulk to the teeth for it to be an evenly matched fight.
Just like they amped Iron Man against Thor. Couldn't have been a fight otherwise.
Irrelevant. What happened against Kurse ?
Yes. They aren't depowering Thor nor did they when they fought. We've heard from Iron Man in avengers about having a Hulk. We already saw them fight and Hulk came off as superior so stop with the excuses prior to even see in the film.
Iron Man needed upgraded armor that could reform to take on the Hulk. It's by far superior to the Iron Man who took Thor on. Give it up, Hulk is the physical beast. He doesn't need to dodge bullets, sport.
Originally posted by quanchi112
That doesn't matter. Do you honestly think the weapons are superior to the hulk ? Both are armed. Hulk doesn't have superior weapons to Thor. If anything this proves he's a powerhouse since he doesn't typically have them or armor.Irrelevant. What happened against Kurse ?
Yes. They aren't depowering Thor nor did they when they fought. We've heard from Iron Man in avengers about having a Hulk. We already saw them fight and Hulk came off as superior so stop with the excuses prior to even see in the film.
Iron Man needed upgraded armor that could reform to take on the Hulk. It's by far superior to the Iron Man who took Thor on. Give it up, Hulk is the physical beast. He doesn't need to dodge bullets, sport.
Are weapons standard gear for Hulk yes or no?
Is Mjolnir standard gear for Thor yes or no?
Has Thor ever shot lightning at Hulk yes or no?
Does Thor fire lighting at most his opponents yes or no?
Originally posted by Darth ThorYour question doesn't prove anything. It's like saying Loki daggers using daggers is an amp. Amps mean greater power but wielding a weapon.
Are weapons standard gear for Hulk yes or no?Is Mjolnir standard gear for Thor yes or no?
Has Thor ever shot lightning at Hulk yes or no?
Does Thor fire lighting at most his opponents yes or no?
Tgir has his powers without it and he already fought Hulk with the hammer.
Has he shot lightning at Kurse ? When he does t shoot lightning and loses do we discount it ?
He strikes most of his opponents with his hammer. He struck the Hulk. That didn't put him down.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Your question doesn't prove anything. It's like saying Loki daggers using daggers is an amp. Amps mean greater power but wielding a weapon.Tgir has his powers without it and he already fought Hulk with the hammer.
Has he shot lightning at Kurse ? When he does t shoot lightning and loses do we discount it ?
He strikes most of his opponents with his hammer. He struck the Hulk. That didn't put him down.
If they both have weapons then it's the equivalent of an unarmed Hulk vs an unarmed Thor. IOW advantage to Hulk.
He hit Kurse with Lightning amped Mjolnir, right after lightning blasting Malekith in the face.
Hulks never faced Thor's lightning. That's obviously done purposefully to make it a fair fight. Another big advantage to Hulk.
This isn't comic book Thor. Movie Thor has never shown the ability to shoot Lightning without Mjolnir.
Yes he struck Hulk with his Hammer and Hulk went flying. Big difference with and without Mjolnir. And an even bigger difference with and without his Lightning.
Hulk gets to avoid both for this fight. Ergo Hulk winning will prove nothing, whereas a near stalemate or Thor winning will show Thor >> Hulk. So You should be really scared to watch this fight of Hulk vs a gimped Thor.
Originally posted by Darth ThorNo, it isn't since Thor has greater skill and experience in fighting with weapons than the Hulk does. You're basically saying it's unfair for Hulk to have a weapon while Thor does conceding Hulk is the powerhouse by this plicwtiln.
If they both have weapons then it's the equivalent of an unarmed Hulk vs an unarmed Thor. IOW advantage to Hulk.He hit Kurse with Lightning amped Mjolnir, right after lightning blasting Malekith in the face.
Hulks never faced Thor's lightning. That's obviously done purposefully to make it a fair fight. Another big advantage to Hulk.
This isn't comic book Thor. Movie Thor has never shown the ability to shoot Lightning without Mjolnir.
Yes he struck Hulk with his Hammer and Hulk went flying. Big difference with and without Mjolnir. And an even bigger difference with and without his Lightning.
Hulk gets to avoid both for this fight. Ergo Hulk winning will prove nothing, whereas a near stalemate or Thor winning will show Thor >> Hulk. So You should be really scared to watch this fight of Hulk vs a gimped Thor.
Again false comparison. You also don't know that it would significantly harm the Hulk and are making excuses once again. If Thor isn't armed while Hulk is naked and Thor doesn't use his lightning attacks then it doesn't count.
We already seem him in the preview show he can wield lightning without the hammer.
You've already made excuses like a true fanboy. You are scared of the Hulk and have already conceded the powerhouse argument by your insistence of Hulk being unarmed and without armor while Thor gets both.
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, it isn't since Thor has greater skill and experience in fighting with weapons than the Hulk does. You're basically saying it's unfair for Hulk to have a weapon while Thor does conceding Hulk is the powerhouse by this plicwtiln.Again false comparison. You also don't know that it would significantly harm the Hulk and are making excuses once again. If Thor isn't armed while Hulk is naked and Thor doesn't use his lightning attacks then it doesn't count.
We already seem him in the preview show he can wield lightning without the hammer.
You've already made excuses like a true fanboy. You are scared of the Hulk and have already conceded the powerhouse argument by your insistence of Hulk being unarmed and without armor while Thor gets both.
Thor also has greater skill and experience fighting unarmed as well, so moot point.
You're making excuses. Fact is Hulks never faced the full wrath of the thunder god. You KNOW it'd have a massive effect on Hulk. He can also whip Hulk up in a tornado Destroyer style. Until Hulk takes these attacks calling him the teams powerhouse is unsubstantiated.
That's likely at the end of the movie against Hela or Surtur. But If he does fire Lightning at that early stage in the film where he fights Hulk then I'll concede to it as CIS on Thor's part. But you know he won't fire it at Hulk Lol
So it's the same as if they're both unarmed. Equal advantages on both sides. Except it's a Mjolnirless and Lightningless Thor to make it a fair fight. Let's wait and see how well Hulk does against a gimped Thor.
Originally posted by Darth ThorI agree. The difference is Thor relies on his skill whereas Hulk doesn't need to match his skill since he's the brute powerhouse. It's pretty obvious and I've said this since forever. Reality should be coming in at all sides.
Thor also has greater skill and experience fighting unarmed as well, so moot point.You're making excuses. Fact is Hulks never faced the full wrath of the thunder god. You KNOW it'd have a massive effect on Hulk. He can also whip Hulk up in a tornado Destroyer style. Until Hulk takes these attacks calling him the teams powerhouse is unsubstantiated.
That's likely at the end of the movie against Hela or Surtur. But If he does fire Lightning at that early stage in the film where he fights Hulk then I'll concede to it as CIS on Thor's part. But you know he won't fire it at Hulk Lol
So it's the same as if they're both unarmed. Equal advantages on both sides. Except it's a Mjolnirless and Lightningless Thor to make it a fair fight. Let's wait and see how well Hulk does against a gimped Thor.
No, the fact is your opinion isn't a fact. Hulk has fought Thor with his hammer. He didn't lose. Your bias makes excuses for everything and you claim poor Thor it's just never fair for him. Speculation.
That doesn't mean he isn't trying to win. Thor's warrior code calls him to prevail. Thor still has his powers, weapons, and skills. It's a fair fight. Hulk already took him on with the hammer and he looked superior.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I agree. The difference is Thor relies on his skill whereas Hulk doesn't need to match his skill since he's the brute powerhouse. It's pretty obvious and I've said this since forever. Reality should be coming in at all sides.No, the fact is your opinion isn't a fact. Hulk has fought Thor with his hammer. He didn't lose. Your bias makes excuses for everything and you claim poor Thor it's just never fair for him. Speculation.
That doesn't mean he isn't trying to win. Thor's warrior code calls him to prevail. Thor still has his powers, weapons, and skills. It's a fair fight. Hulk already took him on with the hammer and he looked superior.
You're going to be utterly heartbroken if Thor is shown as superior. Bring some valium with you to the theater just in case.