Emperor's Wrath II vs. Galen Marek

Force, sabers, all out

Hmmm. Marek obviously has the Force and the Wrath has the sabers, but I think Marek would likely win in all out after a good fight.

Being weaker than someone who almost lost to pre-ANH Vader isn't doing much for him, tho. If this were the clone, I'd might think differently, but for now I don't see the Force giving Marek the edge.

True, Vaders level is really inconsistent at this point.

Yeah, but Starkiller almost lost to Vader in sabers, and I believe Marek was a better saberist than his clone, to begin with. Now the DA, on the other hand...

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Being weaker than someone who almost lost to pre-ANH Vader isn't doing much for him, tho. If this were the clone, I'd might think differently, but for now I don't see the Force giving Marek the edge.

Other than having force feats several magnitudes greater than anything the Wrath has ever done...

Marek dominates the Wrath. Brutally.

Originally posted by ares834
Other than having force feats several magnitudes greater than anything the Wrath has ever done...

Marek dominates the Wrath. Brutally.

So you're going to ignore canon feats. Gotcha.

No, but you're trying to ignore canon skill. In fights were Marek and his clone clearly had the Force still open to them just as much as when they are guiding frigates into buildings, they still weren't up to par. His ability to make things explode doesn't make him all that powerful even in his own game.

Makes him powerful enough to atomize the Wrath with a wave of his hand. And Vader, BTW, has feats that shit over anything I've seen from the Wrath so it's really a moot point.

Originally posted by ares834
Makes him powerful enough to atomize the Wrath with a wave of his hand. And Vader, BTW, has feats that shit over anything I've seen from the Wrath so it's really a moot point.

Lol, no.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Lol, no.

Show me the feats then.

Show me Mareks non-exaggerated feats.

Marek is hardly as powerful as he's made out to be.

You mean the feats from the novelization and game that are every bit as canon as TOR?

Originally posted by ares834
You mean the feats from the novelization and game that are every bit as canon as TOR?

Yes, those feats.

Marek couldn't atomise Shaak Ti, he's not atomising someone more powerful than her. The Wrath is one of the most powerful Sith in TOR, theres no way he's getting dominated like that.

Hyperbole (on my part). Plus, when Marek fought Ti he wasn't at his prime yet.

His prime is still barely above Vader, who has nowhere near the insane feats Marek does.

Cool. Guess that shows how powerful Vader truly is.

Or that Marek isn't as powerful as he's portrayed in exaggerated material. Vader was defeated by Maul shortly after this.

Vader in his prime is well above Galen Marek. Vader well below his prime is on par with the Clone who is stronger than Galen Marek. The fact that I've seen Marek move starships means nothing when he can't overwhelm anyone with these same abilities.