Originally posted by NewGuy01
And the Vong are simply better strategists and warriors. The Rakata are savages who were introduced to Force-based tech from the Kwa.
Rakatans also produced technological marvels with which they could produce endless supply of weapons and forces.
In contrast to Vong, Rakatans are not so well-known or as well-explored.
However, back then, some crazy stuff existed. Specially if you focus on technological capabilities of Celestials, you will be stunned. Celestials were capable of reshaping galaxies or parts of it. They could destroy stars and planets and all that.
It baffles me how Rakatans took control of the matters and established a galactic superpower back then.
The Rakata did not have nearly any of the stuff the Celestials had. Their greatest technological feat was the construction of the Star Forge, which merely sapped the energies of a Star. Not to mention the Rakata merely had 500 planets, they did not control the entire Galaxy. They only spanned the Galaxy because their Hyperdrives were drawn to force sensitive worlds yet they cannot maneuver anywhere without the Force. If you do research on the power generation of the ships during the times of the Vong and Galactic Empire Imperial Star Destroyers were capable of generating energy that rivals and even surpasses the energy of whole stars.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
It baffles me how Rakatans took control of the matters and established a galactic superpower back then.
They had very little competition (which did not include the Celestials). Mostly they sensed, and then went to, individual force-rich worlds.
And Tython was able to do a pretty good job of fighting them off.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Rakatans weren't savages, they overwhelmed many established civilizations of their era and routed the Celestials to establish first known galactic superpower.Rakatans also produced technological marvels with which they could produce endless supply of weapons and forces.
The Celestials left the Galaxy off their own accord, they weren't beaten by the Rakatans.
Originally posted by WildBantha88
The Rakata technology has always been that of legend. The star forge being the most famous but also remember the rakata box from kotor and the imprisoned one and the infinite engine or the hate engine or something like that from tor. The Rakata empire was using technology far before its time
True and they have dominated the galaxy with absolute authority. They must have had insane technology to suppress every other race like that.
My question is, did the rakatan military use the force to create destructive force powers or destructive energy/explosive ammo? If its the latter, I don't think that Vong's lack of force would matter at all and the Rakata could win.
The Rakatans had some crazy technology, but it was still only a relatively small number of worlds.
And Vong stuff is pretty insanely crazy by early-era stuff too. Basically a random Vong cruiser would beat any ship TOR had without a superlaser, let alone a Rakatan ship.
And the worldship.... I don't think the Rakatans have anything that could stop it. It took the NR converting a SSD into a giant *bomb* to do so, and the Rakatans have nothing that big.
The Vong fleet is simply too big in numbers and power.
Originally posted by The Merchant
The Rakata did not have nearly any of the stuff the Celestials had. Their greatest technological feat was the construction of the Star Forge, which merely sapped the energies of a Star. Not to mention the Rakata merely had 500 planets, they did not control the entire Galaxy. They only spanned the Galaxy because their Hyperdrives were drawn to force sensitive worlds yet they cannot maneuver anywhere without the Force. If you do research on the power generation of the ships during the times of the Vong and Galactic Empire Imperial Star Destroyers were capable of generating energy that rivals and even surpasses the energy of whole stars.
- Quality of military capability always matters, span of the civilization not so much.
- Yes, maneuverability related limitations are a problem. Rakatans are likely to engage Vong in certain parts of the galaxy.
- I understand, technological progression have been tremendous with passage of time even though ancient marvels hold their own. Harrower-class dreadnaught represented first major (modern) marvel of engineering that required tremendous resources and output to be a possibility and inspired future super-cruiser designs.
Originally posted by Selenial
The Celestials left the Galaxy off their own accord, they weren't beaten by the Rakatans.
So far, indicators are that Rakatans played a part in routing them.
Originally posted by Q99
And Vong stuff is pretty insanely crazy by early-era stuff too. Basically a random Vong cruiser would beat any ship TOR had without a superlaser, let alone a Rakatan ship.
Here is a comparison:
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/A-vek_Iiluunu
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Harrower-class_dreadnought
Basically, their is no comparison.
Vong were not dangerous because of technological marvels, they were dangerous because their technologies and capabilities were poorly understood. However, at technical level, they were primitive.