Originally posted by dadudemonI've been wondering the same. I was pretty bad with cap after I saw WS, but after the hyped died down for me, I was able to take a more neutral view of him. He does not beat Ozy.
I'm just wondering when the Captain America wanking will end, though.
Though I disagree about strength going to Ozy.
Originally posted by Arachnid1
I've been wondering the same. I was pretty bad with cap after I saw WS, but after the hyped died down for me, I was able to take a more neutral view of him. He does not beat Ozy.Though I disagree about strength going to Ozy.
I did just think about something though.
If you look at Batroc and WS. Neither of them are in Ozy's leauge. This might be one fight Cap can't win.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
I did just think about something though.If you look at Batroc and WS. Neither of them are in Ozy's leauge. This might be one fight Cap can't win.
Winter Soldier is in Ozys league and Cap beat him while holding back (he didnt want to kill/hurt his friend), Cap was also stabbed once and shot 4 times with a fire arm, even then Cap was still even with WS and can be argued that he was still >> WS.
Originally posted by Robtard
You gave it 50/50 just two days ago after watching TWS, what changed since then to make it 6/10 now?
Did you even read the post you quoted? lol
Originally posted by Arachnid1
I've been wondering the same. I was pretty bad with cap after I saw WS, but after the hyped died down for me, I was able to take a more neutral view of him. He does not beat Ozy.Though I disagree about strength going to Ozy.
I think kicking a grown man 10-20 meters and then having that grown man, whose durability is ridiculous, pulverize a marble or cement pillar upon impact, and then bounce another 7-10 meters after striking the pillar, is a stronger strength feat than anything Captain showed. But it is not leagues beyond what Captain showed.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
I did just think about something though.If you look at Batroc and WS. Neither of them are in Ozy's leauge. This might be one fight Cap can't win.
Hmm. I'll have to re-watch The Watchmen, then....the opening scene, RJ keeps telling me it is stupid badass.
Originally posted by Inhuman
Winter Soldier is in Ozys league and Cap beat him while holding back (he didnt want to kill/hurt his friend), Cap was also stabbed once and shot 4 times with a fire arm, even then Cap was still even with WS and can be argued that he was still >> WS.
This is actually a good argument for why Cap beats Ozy sometimes and it is part of why I gave Captain some wins.
But Cap wasn't holding back against the fancy terrorist dude. Keep in mind that this terrorist dude is a human: not a super soldier. And he put up a good fight against Cap.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
And we see Ozy flooring the Watchmen with ease, who in contrary would have pushed Batroc's shit in.
watchmen where just skilled humans (sans dr.M and Ozy) Like black widow and hawkeye. I dont get where the high balling for these guys comes from.
Also what are Ozys durability feats because once Cap land 1 blow , Oxy may be out.
Please dont say that Cap wont land a shot on OZY because both these guys are fast even we say Ozy is faster, they will both hit each other eventually.
I know cap can take blows from Ozy but maybe Ozy wont be able to take 1 shot from cap based on Ozy not having any durability feats.
Originally posted by Inhuman
watchmen where just skilled humans (sans dr.M and Ozy) Like black widow and hawkeye. I dont get where the high balling for these guys comes from.Also what are Ozys durability feats because once Cap land 1 blow , Oxy may be out.
Please dont say that Cap wont land a shot on OZY because both these guys are fast even we say Ozy is faster, they will both hit each other eventually.
I know cap can take blows from Ozy but maybe Ozy wont be able to take 1 shot from cap based on Ozy not having any durability feats.
DC's characters have always been close to meta human. Even the ones that didn't have superpowers. Ozy's faster then bullets and took hits from the comedian and the others and shrugged them off. While when those guys where hitting people, it was bone breaking blows.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
DC's characters have always been close to meta human. Even the ones that didn't have superpowers. Ozy's faster then bullets and took hits from the comedian and the others and shrugged them off. While when those guys where hitting people, it was bone breaking blows.
Thats just means he may survive more than 1 punch then.
If these 2 are trading blows I see OZY going down far earlier than cap would. Even If Oxy dodges 60% of caps blows I still see the same outcome of OZy going down first.
Originally posted by Inhuman
Thats just means he may survive more than 1 punch then.
If these 2 are trading blows I see OZY going down far earlier than cap would. Even If Oxy dodges 60% of caps blows I still see the same outcome of OZy going down first.
I think the only way to solve this is a deathbattle, is there one out?
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
DC's characters have always been close to meta human. Even the ones that didn't have superpowers. Ozy's faster then bullets and took hits from the comedian and the others and shrugged them off. While when those guys where hitting people, it was bone breaking blows.
Captain America suffers from being PG-13. When cap hit guys, bones didn't break. 🙂
Watchmen strength > Captain America strength. 😄
Originally posted by Robtard
Yes. Was "50/50" 2 days ago; today it's 6/10 (or 60/40). Clearly the numbers have changed. I just asked why.
I think this is your answer:
Originally posted by dadudemon
After watching Winter Soldier, I think Captain's skills have greatly improved.After going back over some feats from both characters, I think Ozymandias takes a majority against Captain America.
He had to go back and watch the movies, or at least just the scenes with these feats.
I think Ozy takes it more often than not. Cap is no push over but Ozy is just a monster.
Originally posted by juggerman
I think this is your answer:He had to go back and watch the movies, or at least just the scenes with these feats.
I think Ozy takes it more often than not. Cap is no push over but Ozy is just a monster.
Thank you...
I see that there are plenty of people that support Ozy in this thread so I don't think I need to worry about looking like I'm trolling.
I genuinely this is a good match-up but with Ozy's speed and intelligence giving him the win.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Thank you...I see that there are plenty of people that support Ozy in this thread so I don't think I need to worry about looking like I'm trolling.
I genuinely this is a good match-up but with Ozy's speed and intelligence giving him the win.
Before Cap 2 I thought Ozy stomped Cap. Now it's closer but I still think Ozy has the edge by a decent amount. 7/10 I'd say