Originally posted by Supermutant
Lol and don't even mentioned durability, Blade has been stabbed in the chest through the heart by Dracula, took the sword out and kept on fighting.
Like someone else mentioned this fight would go like Shang vs Gorgon except Blade would stomp from the get go.
That's not durability.
Originally posted by riv6672
The majority of long lived characters have NOT spent all that time improving their HtH skills. They reach a level and stay there.
Characters like Shang Chi constantly train, seeking to improve.
I guess that's what people don't realize about Blade. When Blade first starting hunting vampires he did not have any superhuman stats. That didn't come until the Morbius bite years later. So in the beginning all Blade had to rely on was his skill against faster and stronger opponents. And even after Morbius, Blade has to continue to train b/c Vampires are always experimenting in trying to create stronger and more resistant vampire. Plus Blade hunts all type of supernatural monsters.
Originally posted by riv6672
Lots of examples of people either not in their right minds, mooks, generic soldier types, bullets not made faster by vampirism and various combinations of the three.
Nothing there to change my mind on Blade getting beaten by a fully competent Shang Chi.
You can believe that catwoman has fire breath for all I care.
Blade's durability and healing is much better than Shang's. This is a stomp.
Here Blade takes gunshot to shoulder heals instantly,and hits shooter.
After being tortured and crucified, Blade breaks free and kills his enemies while healing from wounds.
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Blade is impaled from behind by Dracula and removes the sword himself after healing fast.
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No damage after taking a blast for Lilith that knocked him and Cap Britain miles away.
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Survives an explosion that he set and being buried under rumble without injury.
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Survives without injury being at the center of a Shield Aircraft crash.
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Stands in the middle of a fire w/o damage.
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Blade dressed as Ronin is gutted by a 3 headed and big cerberus type beast. But is completely healed in a couple of panels.
Originally posted by Supermutantclearly, you don't know enough about Shang chi because you didn't even mention that he can chi amp, chi heal, mystically amp, and stark tech amp in order to be able to take on blade. Blade's going to oneshot ko him? Shang chi has taken far better blunt damage than blade can dish out (such as when he was still standing after fighting Black Dwarf or when Dragon Man punched him through a roof and he landed aseveral blocks away, only had a bloody nose to show for it, and was smiling). I'm pretty certain that that's the one and only time that blade has ever beaten spider-man (also the writing and artwork for that entire arc sucked). Congratulations, blade can beat mindless canon fodder and vampire weaklings!
I know enough about Shang that he's not in Blade's league. And what's exactly is Blade doing while Shang is hitting him? Even though Blade is faster and can one hit ko him or decapitate him with his adamantium sword.Its nice that Spider-Man has trouble hitting Shang, but Blade has no trouble knee capping a Vampire Spiderman who has increased stats.
http://www.comicvine.com/api/image/scale_medium/2853236-bladespeedns10.jpg
Blocks bullets by spinning chain really fast.http://www.comicvine.com/api/image/scale_medium/2859006-blade_1__03_.jpg
Fast enough to shoot vampire Spiderman in both kneecaps.http://www.comicvine.com/api/image/scale_medium/2853318-bladeslicin.jpg
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Blade slices and kills a vampire before that vampire can even move.http://www.comicvine.com/api/image/scale_medium/2717115-blade_1_p28.jpg
Easily dodges automatic gun fire from two shield agents vampires.http://www.comicvine.com/api/image/scale_medium/2853230-bladedodge.jpg
Dodges and land hits on the super fast vampire Spitfire.http://www.comicvine.com/api/image/scale_medium/2853234-bladefaster.jpg
Blade is so fast that " time stops for our hunter...dazzling speed.." against assassins.http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/12/125392/2717092-blade_1_p16_p17.jpg
Again "and the world slows for all but Blade" during battle.Lol and don't even mentioned durability, Blade has been stabbed in the chest through the heart by Dracula, took the sword out and kept on fighting.
Like someone else mentioned this fight would go like Shang vs Gorgon except Blade would stomp from the get go.
Originally posted by Supermutant
I guess that's what people don't realize about Blade. When Blade first starting hunting vampires he did not have any superhuman stats. That didn't come until the Morbius bite years later. So in the beginning all Blade had to rely on was his skill against faster and stronger opponents. And even after Morbius, Blade has to continue to train b/c Vampires are always experimenting in trying to create stronger and more resistant vampire. Plus Blade hunts all type of supernatural monsters.
Hmm. What can i say to such a well thought out post except...
Originally posted by Supermutant
You can believe that catwoman has fire breath for all I care.
😆
Originally posted by deathslash
clearly, you don't know enough about Shang chi because you didn't even mention that he can chi amp, chi heal, mystically amp, and stark tech amp in order to be able to take on blade. Blade's going to oneshot ko him? Shang chi has taken far better blunt damage than blade can dish out (such as when he was still standing after fighting Black Dwarf or when Dragon Man punched him through a roof and he landed aseveral blocks away, only had a bloody nose to show for it, and was smiling). I'm pretty certain that that's the one and only time that blade has ever beaten spider-man (also the writing and artwork for that entire arc sucked). Congratulations, blade can beat mindless canon fodder and vampire weaklings!
Where are Shang's feats that puts him on Blade's level? All this chi amping that he can do didn't help him against Gorgon. And Blade who is faster is just going to stand there and let him chi anything. lol And Blade has taken much greater damage to Shang can dish out. And what has Shang done with this new Stark tech? Blade simply outclasses him plus has better gear.
Originally posted by riv6672
I appreciate scans, i really do. They dont make the written statements any less true.
God knows there are enough misinterpreted scans out there to call this even.
I'm just having fun with the catwoman comment.Overall though, no minds are being changed here.
Yes, I've seen many examples of scans out of context, both intentional and unintentional. Whenever I use scans from comics I haven't read(so can't verify) I add the disclaimer that I haven't read it. And why I almost always add the issue reference when posting my own scans(typically in the link via file name).
But normally the one who adds scans is backing their case. I really haven't seen much from either character. Looking through Shang Chi's respect thread here, but it's got a lot of broken link. Although at least I'm seeing cited examples like Shang Chi beating Asgardian trolls that allegedly no-sold Black Widow's widow bites.
Originally posted by SupermutantSadly, I don't know how to post scans, but I do know how to direct you to scans of his feats.
Where are Shang's feats that puts him on Blade's level? All this chi amping that he can do didn't help him against Gorgon. And Blade who is faster is just going to stand there and let him chi anything. lol And Blade has taken much greater damage to Shang can dish out. And what has Shang done with this new Stark tech? Blade simply outclasses him plus has better gear.
I'm baffled by the hype Shang gets, sure he's beaten some fairly powerful opponents but his track record against other skilled martial artist is pretty spotty, especially when one his chief rivals The Cat has been fisted by Taskmaster and Iron Fist, it's unlikely that in terms of pure martial art skill that Shang in on par with either of the latter 2.
Originally posted by OneTruthand yet black panther thinks that ironfist could actually be jealous of shang's skill and shang chi is constantly said to be one of the best martial artists in marvel?
I'm baffled by the hype Shang gets, sure he's beaten some fairly powerful opponents but his track record against other skilled martial artist is pretty spotty, especially when one his chief rivals The Cat has been fisted by Taskmaster and Iron Fist, it's unlikely that in terms of pure martial art skill that Shang in on par with either of the latter 2.
Originally posted by deathslash
and yet black panther thinks that ironfist could actually be jealous of shang's skill and shang chi is constantly said to be one of the best martial artists in marvel?
Plenty of street level or low metas are considered as among the best martial artists. Black Panther, Ironfist, The Cat, Blade, Daredevil, Elektra, Cap, just to name a few all are elite martial artists. Blade outclass Shang in every stat.
Originally posted by OneTruth
I'm baffled by the hype Shang gets, sure he's beaten some fairly powerful opponents but his track record against other skilled martial artist is pretty spotty, especially when one his chief rivals The Cat has been fisted by Taskmaster and Iron Fist, it's unlikely that in terms of pure martial art skill that Shang in on par with either of the latter 2.
Dont ever use ABC logic. and Cap many times got his ass handed to him by crossbones, who gets destroyed by other streets daily so? and batman gets sometimes a good fight and even an ass kicking from the joker in H2H so? by feats statements and showings shang chi is on par with the top H2H fighters in marvel. his only downfall is the fact he doesnt have the iron fist or peak human stats like black panther and Cap has. i would put him on par with daredevil probably.
