Originally posted by Lek KuenIt's a vampire god. When standing fully up, it dwarfs Blade and is around the size of an elephant. The feat is arguably around several tons. Wasn't the Block a chi block though? Didn't he use his chi to disperse the damage over his whole body?
The point was he blocked a Hulk level foe trying to kill him, barehanded. Not that he won.What makes the feat you posted so special? I have no idea who he is holding.
Originally posted by Lek KuenNo, I'm just specifying. It's less of a brute strength feat, and more of chi feat. I don't think that feat should've been compared with a strength feat from Blade. Blade has more raw strength than Shang, whereas Shang's chi amping strikes can even than out.
Is chi not allowed in hand to hand fights?I always assumed it was a long as it wasn't used as say a projectile or anything like that and was strictly an extension of the fighting style.
Originally posted by Trackz
No, I'm just specifying. It's less of a brute strength feat, and more of chi feat. I don't think that feat should've been compared with a strength feat from Blade. Blade has more raw strength than Shang, whereas Shang's chi amping strikes can even than out.
Oh yeah, Blade is prolly stronger. But I think the point of the scan was to show that Shang can overcome his human level.
Originally posted by Lek KuenPersonally, I never thought Shang-Chi was human level, and I think he wins the hand-to-hand fight. I think their stats are around even enough, with Blade having the edge in durability and equipment, so he would win the standard equipment fight by virtue of actually having equipment.
Oh yeah, Blade is prolly stronger. But I think the point of the scan was to show that Shang can overcome his human level.
Originally posted by SupermutantWhy didn't you post the pic of Blade snapping those chains? While weakened also.
Even after being severely weaken by having a lot of his blood drained, Blade easily defeats several were-scorpions. He is still strong enough to rip out a tail from one of them, and kills them in hand to hand without the aid of a giant statue. Got anymore "impressive" Shang Chi feats that are ready to be dumped on by Blade. 😆
Originally posted by cdtm
I don't even know what that thing is, or why handling it beats taking a punch from Hiromi.. Impressive heat resistance, I guess. ^_^;
I think the panels afterwards explained that he managed to distribute the force equally over his body. Don't think heat had anything to do with it, but it could be argued that it's chi manipulation feat. In marvel chi is hard to pin down it's mystical/magical and can overlap with physical since you can do physical damage, I guess.
Originally posted by Trackz
No, I'm just specifying. It's less of a brute strength feat, and more of chi feat. I don't think that feat should've been compared with a strength feat from Blade. Blade has more raw strength than Shang, whereas Shang's chi amping strikes can even than out.
Yea you could certainly make that argument.
Originally posted by riv6672
I can see where spinning a chain takes way more skill than bracer blocks.
But then, i'm on pain killers right now. 🤣Every time this thread gets topped the Shang argument just gets stronger.
Blade can do both. 😆 Blade doesn't just block a bullet, but he uses it to free himself from handcuffs.
Blade is simply better than Shang, has better feats, better powers and abilities, better standard gear, better in every way. There's nothing Shang can do against Blade's combination of speed, skill, strength, superhuman senses, and healing factor.
Every time this thread gets topped the Blade argument continues to stomp.
Reviewing this thread so far, and being a much bigger Shang chi fan than blade fan, I don't see Shang winning here. At the most generous, you could argue that their stats are comparable, but Blade's damage soak and healing ability are much more effective. I see Shang losing a long, good fight.
Additionally, I think Shang's fight against the Welsh dragon presents an insanely good durability feat: whether he was going to be able to land, he literally got hit 10,000 feet in the air and was only dazed for a short spell. That's very impressive.
And his feat against Hiroim was both impressive from a chi-blocking and speed standpoint. The fact that he intercepted that punch from being on his knees behind hiroim's bull rush AFTER the delay imposed by taking the first hit himself? That's at least Cass-level, that is.
