Originally posted by SamZED
When? Aside from when he's dealing with bullet dodgers like Wolverine and other competent opponents I mean.
🙁 Isn't the point here, to show Blade's supposed to be a cut above a competent bullet dodger like Logan?
I mean, I'm assuming we're all on the same page with regards to tiers... Iron Fist/Shang at the top of it, Elektra/Daredevil just below them, and Logan/everyone else near the bottom.
Yeah, KMC has posters who think Wolverine is god tier, but who takes them seriously? 😛
Originally posted by cdtmWell yeah, but missing Logan is no bad feat, I mean Deadpool himself has dodged machine gun fire from freaking Bussleye at close range, guys like Deathstroke can miss Batgirl etc that happens a lot.
🙁 Isn't the point here, to show Blade's supposed to be a cut above a competent bullet dodger like Logan?I mean, I'm assuming we're all on the same page with regards to tiers... Iron Fist/Shang at the top of it, Elektra/Daredevil just below them, and Logan/everyone else near the bottom.
Yeah, KMC has posters who think Wolverine is god tier, but who takes them seriously? 😛
Originally posted by Supermutant
And here is Shang Chi vs a bone-claw LoganNotice again how quickly he is dead to rights. Shang Chi simply doesn't have a good track record against metas and Blade is easily faster and stronger than him plus more durable and have a healing factor. lol This is a murder stomp even more so than his battle with Gorgon.
Please don't use that. That doesn't prove anything, Shang Chi was surprised that's all
Originally posted by cdtmCharges Gorgon (Without the aid of a rocket pack 😛 ), and scores an impressive blitz. Brings him to his knees.
And then, as your scans show, Gorgon tanks his attack, and lands one of his own, finishing the fight.
It's also important to note that Gorgon is using a sword that killed Mikiboshi, a.k.a. Chaos King, after he killed the skyfather Zeus. I doubt even Wolverine could tank a hit from that sword.
So, there you have it.
Shang displayed impressive speed, agility, ninja like misdirection skills, and tactics. He also had the advantage of Stark tech amping his attacks, and it still wasn't enough.
He lost because his damage dealing ability was < Gorgon's damage soak ability. As did Wolverine. But give him his due, it was a good fight, and he looked better then anyone thought he would, Stark tech or no..
As an aside, this was a pretty fun fight. I'd say this is right up there with Cassandra Cain vs Shiva, or Val Armorr vs Nemesis Kid. 🙂
Can I ask what did the tech do? Give him a power amp or speed amp or both?
Originally posted by Deadlineneither, it just shoots an energy blast/allows him to electrify people. I guess that would qualify as a "power amp" in the sense it gives him a power he didn't have before, but it doesnt make him stronger.
Please don't use that. That doesn't prove anything, Shang Chi was surprised that's allCan I ask what did the tech do? Give him a power amp or speed amp or both?
Originally posted by Trackz
neither, it just shoots an energy blast/allows him to electrify people. I guess that would qualify as a "power amp" in the sense it gives him a power he didn't have before, but it doesnt make him stronger.
If that's the case, that's an extremely good showing. However I don't think that Gorgon is as invincible as he used to be. I think Iron Fist was stalemating him in a fight once, not that its a bad thing but going by Gorgon's earlier showing I don't think that fight would have lasted long.
Originally posted by Deadline
If that's the case, that's an extremely good showing. However I don't think that Gorgon is as invincible as he used to be. I think Iron Fist was stalemating him in a fight once, not that its a bad thing but going by Gorgon's earlier showing I don't think that fight would have lasted long.
Well, you could argue that demonstrated Fist's moving up, over Gorgon moving down.
Fist was also getting some pretty big exposure at the time, with his mini, making super high end showings like what Remender wrote more common place.
Looks like the new writer in The Living Weapon series continues amping him up, now having him project hadoken like ki balls and ride a kamehameha like wave out of Kun L'un, into Earths dimension, and taking a freefall crash landing from miles up without a scratch.
Too bad his characterization is so bad, he's not even the same guy anymore. Basically, he's become a shallow womanizing punk without many redeeming qualities...
Originally posted by cdtm
Well, you could argue that demonstrated Fist's moving up, over Gorgon moving down.Fist was also getting some pretty big exposure at the time, with his mini, making super high end showings like what Remender wrote more common place.
Looks like the new writer in The Living Weapon series continues amping him up, now having him project hadoken like ki balls and ride a kamehameha like wave out of Kun L'un, into Earths dimension, and taking a freefall crash landing from miles up without a scratch.
Too bad his characterization is so bad, he's not even the same guy anymore. Basically, he's become a shallow womanizing punk without many redeeming qualities...
One argument I've seen is that because Gorgon states that he's saving his fight for Wolverine, he holds back against Ironfist. We never see their fight to the conclusion and his fight was similar to Wolverine and Shang Chi in that he started out very strong. Both both of them were put down easily after he recovered, however Gorgon never gets the chance to do that. I do believe he's had the best fight against Gorgon though.
Originally posted by DeadlineIt's a good showing, but I feel like it's in line with everything he's done before. The fight was meant to prove that all the skill in the world can't help you overcome a physical disadvantage sometimes. I dont discredit the showing, I just don't really understand what it proves in regards to this fight.
If that's the case, that's an extremely good showing. However I don't think that Gorgon is as invincible as he used to be. I think Iron Fist was stalemating him in a fight once, not that its a bad thing but going by Gorgon's earlier showing I don't think that fight would have lasted long.
Originally posted by Trackz
It's a good showing, but I feel like it's in line with everything he's done before. The fight was meant to prove that all the skill in the world can't help you overcome a physical disadvantage sometimes. I dont discredit the showing, I just don't really understand what it proves in regards to this fight.
Yea I guess. I think Shang wins h2h I think he has some really good h2h showings that have to trump Blade. Another really good feat is him blocking Hiriom's punch. Bare in mind Hiriom went up against Ironfist, from what I remember they both ended up clashing fists and Ironfist looked his hand was hurt while Hiriom was just fine. I think it would still be a good fight though.
With weapons I'm not too sure wether it's fair. Does Blade carry a gun as standard equipment? Also it's a featurless environment, if the fight was in NYC or in a jungle you could argue that Shang could use the environment to help him. In a featurless environment I don't think it's going to last that long.
