Originally posted by carver9
I will provide scans in a few. I like making people look foolish.
i can't wait to see how the hulk was amped in that fight. and some on panel proof that logan's stab only hurt glads because he lacked confidence. 👆 i look forward to it and will readily admit to being wrong should you provide such proof. when you fail to do so, i hope you will finally admit that most of the time you're just full of sh!t. 🙂
Originally posted by leonidasYou will have to wait for carver to download those comics 😐
i can't wait to see how the hulk was amped in that fight. and some on panel proof that logan's stab only hurt glads because he lacked confidence. 👆 i look forward to it and will readily admit to being wrong should you provide such proof. when you fail to do so, i hope you will finally admit that most of the time you're just full of sh!t. 🙂
Originally posted by iceman24567
Adam was also retired for decades
How many years does it take to be a good fighter though? Not a lifetime from my knowledge. In every fight that he had in his mini, he wasn't going all out at first, but then when he poured it on he was pretty capable in terms of being a fighter. King Hyperion wasn't a rookie was he? What about the Avengers? They certainly weren't rookies, and he was trying to reason with them.
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
I believe Gladiator is a better fighter. Just compare their origins. Having said that, BM matches his strength and totally trumps him in EP.
He's also a lot more powerful, just compare their origins. Actually , Blue Marvel would be more comparable to Captain Atom than he would be to Superman.
Originally posted by StoicI was just addressing the fact that just because Adam is 70+ doesnt mean he has as much fighting experience as Gladiator considering Adam was retired for a long time until recently. I would give Gladiator the clear edge in fighting experience
How many years does it take to be a good fighter though? Not a lifetime from my knowledge. In every fight that he had in his mini, he wasn't going all out at first, but then when he poured it on he was pretty capable in terms of being a fighter. King Hyperion wasn't a rookie was he? What about the Avengers? They certainly weren't rookies, and he was trying to reason with them.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He wasn't in the game as long as gladiator. He isn't a warrior in the same sense Gladiator is to begin with.
That didn't stop a Medical Tech from feeding him hammer though. 😖hifty:
Originally posted by iceman24567
I was just addressing the fact that just because Adam is 70+ doesnt mean he has as much fighting experience as Gladiator considering Adam was retired for a long time until recently. I would give Gladiator the clear edge in fighting experience
How do you think he'd do against that team of Avengers? We may only assume that he is the Bruce Lee of Supermen, but his track record isn't as spotless. I understand what you're saying, but again, what has happened on panel seems to go against him being this elite warrior.
Originally posted by StoicI think Adam is overall more powerful than Gladiator
That didn't stop a Medical Tech from feeding him hammer though. 😖hifty:How do you think he'd do against that team of Avengers? We may only assume that he is the Bruce Lee of Superman, but his track record isn't as spotless. I understand what you're saying, but again, what has happened on panel seems to go against him being this elite warrior.
Originally posted by StoicI never said he was an unbeatable warrior just better than Marvel.
That didn't stop a Medical Tech from feeding him hammer though. 😖hifty:How do you think he'd do against that team of Avengers? We may only assume that he is the Bruce Lee of Supermen, but his track record isn't as spotless. I understand what you're saying, but again, what has happened on panel seems to go against him being this elite warrior.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I never said he was an unbeatable warrior just better than Marvel.
But where is your proof of this? Adam is a decorated Vet after all. Is it because of his battle with Hyperion? Wasn't the reason of Hyperion's loss due to him having relied solely on him leaning on his powers, and never really training in any form of martial arts? Last time I checked soldiers are trained in hand to hand combat in case they are disarmed. I'm not convinced of Gladiator's superior fighting skills when he was unable to put his hand up to stop Masterson from performing surgery on his face. Masterson wasn't a warrior at all, in any sense of the word. He was an EMT.
I could see if he took some form of Martial Arts, but he never did, and he still managed to wreck Gladiator, and he was as inexperienced as you could get. Wonder Man nearly slapped him in the head because he was so afraid to confront Kallark. This does not scream Warrior Elite to me.
Originally posted by StoicWho cares ? Gladiator is the best from the Shiar. You also weren't convinced of Thanos superiority to the Hulk and finally came around. Masterson has a hammer and power marvel doesn't aside from Gladiator losing due to the circumstances.
But where is your proof of this? Adam is a decorated Vet after all. Is it because of his battle with Hyperion? Wasn't the reason of Hyperion's loss due to him having relied solely on him leaning on his powers, and never really training in any form of martial arts? Last time I checked soldiers are trained in hand to hand combat in case they are disarmed. I'm not convinced of Gladiator's superior fighting skills when he was unable to put his hand up to stop Masterson from performing surgery on his face. Masterson wasn't a warrior at all, in any sense of the word. He was an EMT.I could see if he took some form of Martial Arts, but he never did, and he still managed to wreck Gladiator, and he was as inexperienced as you could get. Wonder Man nearly slapped him in the head because he was so afraid to confront Kallark. This does not scream Warrior Elite to me.
Quit ignoring the context of the situation. 🙂
Originally posted by quanchi112
Who cares ? Gladiator is the best from the Shiar. You also weren't convinced of Thanos superiority to the Hulk and finally came around. Masterson has a hammer and power marvel doesn't aside from Gladiator losing due to the circumstances.Quit ignoring the context of the situation. 🙂
The context of the situation, is that Gladiator was decked by a deck of cards. If this is the best that the Shiar have to offer (not impressed by titles BTW), I don't want to imagine what the worst is. Even with context being cited, Gladiator could have put his hand between the hammer, and his face. Instead he was beaten into unconsciousness. What does Thanos have to do with this thread. Stay on topic.
Originally posted by StoicYou changing your mind when I crushed you in a debate. Gladiator's skill shit all over Masterson Thor's in that scene. He stopped to taunt and LL was used to stun him and then he beat him with the hammer. What does that have to do with Glaidator's skill ? It has to do with his durability and the unlucky circumstances of LL. Gladiator just beats Marvel as he doesn't have a hammer and there is no LL there to help stun him.
The context of the situation, is that Gladiator was decked by a deck of cards. If this is the best that the Shiar have to offer (not impressed by titles BTW), I don't want to imagine what the worst is. Even with context being cited, Gladiator could have put his hand between the hammer, and his face. Instead he was beaten into unconsciousness. What does Thanos have to do with this thread. Stay on topic.
Context, old man.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You changing your mind when I crushed you in a debate. Gladiator's skill shit all over Masterson Thor's in that scene. He stopped to taunt and LL was used to stun him and then he beat him with the hammer. What does that have to do with Glaidator's skill ? It has to do with his durability and the unlucky circumstances of LL. Gladiator just beats Marvel as he doesn't have a hammer and there is no LL there to help stun him.Context, old man.
Drax is up next. What's the odds of Kallark being beaten again? Pretty high I'd say when you look at his track record. I wonder if he has more losses than wins? I'm betting that he has more losses. Even Gambit defeated him with a deck of charged up cards no less. If this is me low balling Kallark it's a bit hard not to when he loses so much.
I wonder how well he'd do against that team of Avengers that were all over Adam? I'm betting that he'd get his face pushed in even if you took the Sentry out of the equation. look at how a dying Hulk beat the scotch out of him. You talk about low durability? What do you imagine Adam would be hitting him with? If Gambit could put him out with a deck of charged up cards. Adam would likely one shot him, with a charged up anti matter punch to the grill.