Originally posted by dadudemon
My suggestion wasn't optional. If you wish to continue to spew your ignorance and rage at someone because you were raped in this thread, direct it towards your rapist, not people on the sidelines who are laughing at you. 🙂
Calm down dude, it really isn't that serious. 🙂
Originally posted by Kotor3
You sound like dadudemon. Only you, Quan, and dadudemon believe UW wins.I won this thread already. You did nothing but dodge my points when confronted just like you did in another thread. So don't get to high and mighty from praise from dadudemon.
You have the minority on your side with this one.
What did I dodge? I buried each and every one of your points in turn.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
You laugh at rape, bro? 😬
At this point, with the overabundance of context clues and the absence of particular types of meanings, a person should clearly assume the following definition for rape:
"an act of plunder, violent seizure, or abuse; despoliation; violation..."
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/rape
If that is not clear, I do not suggest you play online video games. It will be devastating for you.
Originally posted by dadudemon
At this point, with the overabundance of context clues and the absence of particular types of meanings, a person should clearly assume the following definition for rape:"an act of plunder, violent seizure, or abuse; despoliation; violation..."
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/rape
If that is not clear, I do not suggest you play online video games. It will be devastating for you.
Spoiler:
I gather. Though I am not ancient like yourself, I've been on the interwebz long enough to ascertain the contextually-relevant definition of that term. I was implying that you are a terrible person for the purpose of banter, my son.
Originally posted by RJ 2.0
Ask your questions again and I will again bury them.I have made no false claims.
UW wins.
I've enclosed all of your statements that you made with my counter arguments.
Originally posted by Kotor3
Your statements that are totally false:
“A single Lycan bite will turn anyone from team Blade into a Lycan, AND it only takes minutes, whereas a reaper bite takes days.” “Missed the point where all UW vampires can and would drink the blood of Corvinus, rendering them immune to sunlight.”
Provide an example where a person who drunk Corvinus blood became immune to sunlight.
Originally posted by Kotor3
As for the discussion see below: You stated –
Viktor and all the characters from Rise of the Lycans LIVED in a castle and are much more experienced in tactics than team Blade.
Death Dealers in UW center on hunting Lycans which until Lucian showed up acted like wild beasts. They also did not start using guns or weapons with UV rounds until the start of UW.
In the Blade universe Vamps have relationships with humans giving them access to unlimited resources politically and military. They are very organized. Vampire Hunters have shown themselves organized and strategic in order to find out Vampires hideouts and hunt them down.
Originally posted by Kotor3
You stated – Team UW has UV rounds, which will decimate any and all reapers.
Difference is UW has one weapon that can kill reapers whereas Blade has multiple weapons to kill the vamps and Lycans.
Major weapons in Blade universe that do not exist in UW.
Daystar – A virus that kills all vampires.
Anticoagulant EDTA which reacts explosively with the vampire blood.
Your response – “And what are the chances of Blade sticking any UW vampire with that stuff? Slim.”
As Blade and the Vampire Hunters and Blood Pack have shown the ability to target and hit reapers and Vampires there is no reason to believe UW vamps would be any different.
The burden of proof is for you to prove that the chances are slim.
Originally posted by Kotor3
You stated – “Team UW has Marcus, who can take to the air.”
Originally posted by Kotor3
You stated - "Most Vampires and Lycans from team UW uses guns, while team Blade, well, only about half used guns."
When it came to showing the high up vamps like the Blood Pack in Blade II it was clear that they had access to many weapons as well as connections with humans (shown in Blade I and II).
Originally posted by Kotor3
You said – “ALL UW characters. This means ALL Lycans from ALL movies. This will be a horde of thousands, man.”
Blade showed Vamps existing all over the world. Clubs specifically created as Vampire hideouts and feeding grounds. Blade universe has the advantage with numbers.
Plus in Blade universe there was no war between Lycans and Vamps that went on for centuries. That would definitely decrease the numbers on each side.
Originally posted by Kotor3
You said – “Team UW is faster. The only one who can come close is Frost.” “Watch the vid I posted earlier, this Selene speed feat is unmatched.”
Also, a bus is about to hit the girl that Frost threw. Look how close the bus is to hitting the girl. Blade still shoots at Frost before going to rescue the girl. Showing his speed.
Video of Blade and Frost battle. With the powers of the Blood God there is no comparison in speed. Frost is dodging sword swings at point blank range and moves so fast you see multiple of him in different places.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4sSuK7iGkE
Originally posted by Kotor3
I've enclosed all of your statements that you made with my counter arguments.Provide an example where a vamp is turn into a Lycan after being bitten by a Lycan. I also provide you examples proving your statement concerning reapers false which you did not accept:
• Priest one of the blood pack who took on a full bite started turning minutes after being bitten. This also happen to Nomak sister after he bit her.
• Lighthammer was slightly bitten and it took a little longer perhaps an hour or two before he turned. Not days.Provide an example where a person who drunk Corvinus blood became immune to sunlight.
Pure assumption. In UW you have the death dealers and in Blade universe you have the Blood Pack plus Vampire Hunters.
Death Dealers in UW center on hunting Lycans which until Lucian showed up acted like wild beasts. They also did not start using guns or weapons with UV rounds until the start of UW.
In the Blade universe Vamps have relationships with humans giving them access to unlimited resources politically and military. They are very organized. Vampire Hunters have shown themselves organized and strategic in order to find out Vampires hideouts and hunt them down.
I pointed out that – the Blade universe have weapons with UV rays would also decimate UW vamps. The Blade universe also have weapons with silver and garlic. All which will kill UW vamps and Lycans.
Difference is UW has one weapon that can kill reapers whereas Blade has multiple weapons to kill the vamps and Lycans.
Major weapons in Blade universe that do not exist in UW.
Daystar – A virus that kills all vampires.
Anticoagulant EDTA which reacts explosively with the vampire blood.Your response – “And what are the chances of Blade sticking any UW vampire with that stuff? Slim.”
As Blade and the Vampire Hunters and Blood Pack have shown the ability to target and hit reapers and Vampires there is no reason to believe UW vamps would be any different.
The burden of proof is for you to prove that the chances are slim.
Absolutely irrelevant since his ability to fly did absolutely nothing in his battles against Selene and Michael.
Another invalid assumption. UW movies focus on the death dealers and their battle against the Lycans (the focus of guns really for UW vamps was in the first movie. The others did not show multiple vamps with guns. You did see humans with guns who work for Alex Corv) whereas Blade movies showed Blade hunting vamps in all types of locations around the world hunting them.
When it came to showing the high up vamps like the Blood Pack in Blade II it was clear that they had access to many weapons as well as connections with humans (shown in Blade I and II).
Hundreds, thousands, are you actually telling there are more Vamps and Lycans in UW universe then exist in Blade?
Blade showed Vamps existing all over the world. Clubs specifically created as Vampire hideouts and feeding grounds. Blade universe has the advantage with numbers.
Plus in Blade universe there was no war between Lycans and Vamps that went on for centuries. That would definitely decrease the numbers on each side.
I gave the feat of when Frost dodge a bullets shot from Blade in daylight, when Blade was just a few feet away. Then you have how fast they were moving their swords in the last Battle of Blade.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RppfiZ50jQAlso, a bus is about to hit the girl that Frost threw. Look how close the bus is to hitting the girl. Blade still shoots at Frost before going to rescue the girl. Showing his speed.
Video of Blade and Frost battle. With the powers of the Blood God there is no comparison in speed. Frost is dodging sword swings at point blank range and moves so fast you see multiple of him in different places.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4sSuK7iGkE
Lol, dude, you serious? I already addressed each and every one of those questions. I addressed and buried them. You REALLY need me to quote/post it all again?
BTW, lame tactic, seems you IGNORED everything I said and are merely repeating the same questions after I already answered.
But hey, I'm a nice guy, when I get home from work I'll shower/rinse/repeat all over again. 😄
Originally posted by RJ 2.0
Lol, dude, you serious? I already addressed each and every one of those questions. I addressed and buried them. You REALLY need me to quote/post it all again?BTW, lame tactic, seems you IGNORED everything I said and are merely repeating the same questions after I already answered.
But hey, I'm a nice guy, when I get home from work I'll shower/rinse/repeat all over again. 😄
Originally posted by Kotor3
I've enclosed all of your statements that you made with my counter arguments.Provide an example where a vamp is turn into a Lycan after being bitten by a Lycan. I also provide you examples proving your statement concerning reapers false which you did not accept:
• Priest one of the blood pack who took on a full bite started turning minutes after being bitten. This also happen to Nomak sister after he bit her.
• Lighthammer was slightly bitten and it took a little longer perhaps an hour or two before he turned. Not days.
You see any of the UW movies? Selene says, and I quote, that lycan bites are usually 100% lethal. So, this implies that a lycan bite (even one that is not that severe), always kills it's victims.
A bite that always kills>>>>A bite that turns it's victim into something else.
We are talking about which bite (reaper or lycan) is more powerful, right?
Provide an example where a person who drunk Corvinus blood became immune to sunlight.Selene.
Pure assumption. In UW you have the death dealers and in Blade universe you have the Blood Pack plus Vampire Hunters.Lol, the blood pack was complete rubbish. Plus there are many more death dealers than the blood pack.
In the Blade universe Vamps have relationships with humans giving them access to unlimited resources politically and military. They are very organized. Vampire Hunters have shown themselves organized and strategic in order to find out Vampires hideouts and hunt them down.And how many hunters were in the Blade movies?
I pointed out that – the Blade universe have weapons with UV rays would also decimate UW vamps. The Blade universe also have weapons with silver and garlic. All which will kill UW vamps and Lycans.UV grenades, that's it. Daystar is fail, I already buried the Daystar scenario.
Difference is UW has one weapon that can kill reapers whereas Blade has multiple weapons to kill the vamps and Lycans.Are you serious with this? UW has everything and more that blade has. Tell you what, list the weapons that Bladeverse has that can kill Vampires and Lycans.
Major weapons in Blade universe that do not exist in UW.
Daystar – A virus that kills all vampires.
Anticoagulant EDTA which reacts explosively with the vampire blood.
If team Blade uses Daystar, they will kill their entire team. And every Vampire on team UW. If this happens, the Lycans will be alive in the end. Victory to team UW.
The only way to administer the blood anticoagulant is to get close and sitck a vampire with it. Good luck at that lol.
Your response – “And what are the chances of Blade sticking any UW vampire with that stuff? Slim.”Yes, and? Point stands.
As Blade and the Vampire Hunters and Blood Pack have shown the ability to target and hit reapers and Vampires there is no reason to believe UW vamps would be any different. [e UW/quote]Because team UW had, durh, UV rounds.Yes, but their ammunition would not affect the UW vampires. They do not possess UV rounds.
[quote]The burden of proof is for you to prove that the chances are slim.
Absolutely irrelevant since his ability to fly did absolutely nothing in his battles against Selene and Michael.Lol, fail. Michael is just as strong as him, as was Selene. Try again.
Another invalid assumption. UW movies focus on the death dealers and their battle against the Lycans (the focus of guns really for UW vamps was in the first movie. The others did not show multiple vamps with guns. You did see humans with guns who work for Alex Corv) whereas Blade movies showed Blade hunting vamps in all types of locations around the world hunting them.
It's not an assumption, it's fact. There were more vampires shown in UW using guns than in Blade.
When it came to showing the high up vamps like the Blood Pack in Blade II it was clear that they had access to many weapons as well as connections with humans (shown in Blade I and II).
Lol, Selene would solo the blood pack with a knife only.
Hundreds, thousands, are you actually telling there are more Vamps and Lycans in UW universe then exist in Blade?And most of them did not have guns. And the ones that did have guns all sucked with them. Hell, even Blade was not much of a marksman.Blade showed Vamps existing all over the world. Clubs specifically created as Vampire hideouts and feeding grounds. Blade universe has the advantage with numbers.
Plus in Blade universe there was no war between Lycans and Vamps that went on for centuries. That would definitely decrease the numbers on each side.Irrelevant. All characters, alive and dead, in all movies, are in this fight.
I gave the feat of when Frost dodge a bullets shot from Blade in daylight, when Blade was just a few feet away. Then you have how fast they were moving their swords in the last Battle of Blade.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RppfiZ50jQAlso, a bus is about to hit the girl that Frost threw. Look how close the bus is to hitting the girl. Blade still shoots at Frost before going to rescue the girl. Showing his speed.
Video of Blade and Frost battle. With the powers of the Blood God there is no comparison in speed. Frost is dodging sword swings at point blank range and moves so fast you see multiple of him in different places.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4sSuK7iGkE
Frost is no faster than Michael or Selene. Selene is a legit bullet dodger and has the feat I posted earlier (killing 7-8 men with a scalpel in less than a second) that Frost cannot match.
Tou really need to get over Frost, he is easily dispatched in this fight. How?
1. Gangrape gangdrain, it'll take mere seconds. Drain him of blood, powers go bye bye.
2. Selene shoves a grenade into his stomach.
3. UV rounds. Yes, I know, he is immune to sunlight. but what about UV rounds that are INSIDE his body? It can be argued that this will affect him.
Originally posted by RJ 2.0
You see any of the UW movies? Selene says, and I quote, that lycan bites are usually 100% lethal. So, this implies that a lycan bite (even one that is not that severe), always kills it's victims.A bite that always kills>>>>A bite that turns it's victim into something else.
We are talking about which bite (reaper or lycan) is more powerful, right?
So you make a false claim and now you want to switch your point. If you feel a Lycan bite is more dangerous, then say so without making up false statements.
I feel a reaper bite is more dangerous because it kills the vamps changing them to a reaper which is a vamp killer which would do nothing but add to their numbers.
As for this statement:“Missed the point where all UW vampires can and would drink the blood of Corvinus, rendering them immune to sunlight.”? Selene.
I forgot about Selene. You are correct, however I do not see what advantage this gives. There is no time for that type of preparation. If there was then the Blade universe could do the same with Blades blood.
Originally posted by RJ 2.0
Lol, the blood pack was complete rubbish. Plus there are many more death dealers than the blood pack.
Also the blood pack was formed from a whole organization of vampires that had soldiers. They were just a special unit.
Not all vamps in UW are death dealers.
Originally posted by RJ 2.0
And how many hunters were in the Blade movies?
Originally posted by RJ 2.0
UV grenades, that's it. Daystar is fail, I already buried the Daystar scenario.
Originally posted by RJ 2.0
Are you serious with this? UW has everything and more that blade has. Tell you what, list the weapons that Bladeverse has that can kill Vampires and Lycans.
Originally posted by RJ 2.0
If team Blade uses Daystar, they will kill their entire team. And every Vampire on team UW. If this happens, the Lycans will be alive in the end. Victory to team UW.
Originally posted by RJ 2.0
The only way to administer the blood anticoagulant is to get close and sitck a vampire with it. Good luck at that lol.
I guess Blade needed to be close when the thrust it into Frost. The anticoagulant is a fluid that can be delivered multiple ways.
Stop making up BS statements.
Originally posted by RJ 2.0
Because team UW had, durh, UV rounds.
Originally posted by RJ 2.0
Lol, fail. Michael is just as strong as him, as was Selene. Try again.
Originally posted by RJ 2.0
It's not an assumption, it's fact. There were more vampires shown in UW using guns than in Blade.
Blade 2: Shows even more. Beginning scene, blood pack, sewers, and ending scene when Nomak charges the headquarters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L46ODsBkWXg
Then you have the Trinity which starts off showing vamps with guns. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrvaonT8qO8
Underworld only really shows vamps with guns in the first movie. The second it is at a minimum, third is in the past where guns did not exist, and the fourth is also at a very minimum.
So I disagree. Blade displays more vamps with guns.
Originally posted by RJ 2.0
Lol, Selene would solo the blood pack with a knife only.
Blade would obliterate them.
Originally posted by RJ 2.0
And most of them did not have guns. And the ones that did have guns all sucked with them. Hell, even Blade was not much of a marksman.
Your statement is not factual at all. Nothing but your opinion.
Originally posted by RJ 2.0
Irrelevant. All characters, alive and dead, in all movies, are in this fight.
Originally posted by RJ 2.0
Frost is no faster than Michael or Selene. Selene is a legit bullet dodger and has the feat I posted earlier (killing 7-8 men with a scalpel in less than a second) that Frost cannot match.
Otherwise keep holding on to that one speed feat.
Originally posted by RJ 2.0
Tou really need to get over Frost, he is easily dispatched in this fight. How?1. Gangrape gangdrain, it'll take mere seconds. Drain him of blood, powers go bye bye.
2. Selene shoves a grenade into his stomach.
3. UV rounds. Yes, I know, he is immune to sunlight. but what about UV rounds that are INSIDE his body? It can be argued that this will affect him.