Originally posted by krisblaze
Did anyone ever say 'oh wow, that giant gaping wound in Thor's side sure must've diminished his fighting prowess' ? No. Odin, however, is amazed that Thor was able to keep fighting despite his injury.
/shrug
Dude, when you have to argue that an oozing stab wound, mystical in nature no less, would lower someone's ability to fight effectively, you know you're not going to reach the person.
Originally posted by krisblaze
The serpent. He didn't fight him, he was just punched.Did anyone ever say 'oh wow, that giant gaping wound in Thor's side sure must've diminished his fighting prowess' ? No. Odin, however, is amazed that Thor was able to keep fighting despite his injury.
Ok.
Lol...so the Serpent punching Thor weakened him?
Thor kept fighting when his liver was turned to glass. Was it ever mentioned that the wound weakened him?
Originally posted by Damborgson
/shrugDude, when you have to argue that an oozing stab wound, mystical in nature no less, would lower someone's ability to fight effectively, you know you're not going to reach the person.
I know, but he needs a chance to get his say in before I join half the board in ignoring him.
Originally posted by carver9
Lol...so the Serpent punching Thor weakened him?Thor kept fighting when his liver was turned to glass. Was it ever mentioned that the wound weakened him?
I just answered both of these questions.
Yes the serpent punched him.
Odin was amazed that Thor could fight with the wound.
Originally posted by krisblaze
I know, but he needs a chance to get his say in before I join half the board in ignoring him.I just answered both of these questions.
Yes the serpent punched him.
Odin was amazed that Thor could fight with the wound.
Your answers was terrible. Moving on because neither one of us are changing our opinions.
Hulk wins.
Originally posted by carver9
Your answers was terrible. Moving on because neither one of us are changing our opinions.
Bleeding because the Serpent punched him before he was teleported to them.
I also said that no one explicitly stated that the wound made Thor worse at fighting, but that Odin expressed amazement that Thor had been able to fight with the wound.
These answer EXACTLY what you asked.
Originally posted by krisblaze
? I said that Thor was bleeding before he fought The Thing and Hulk.Bleeding because the Serpent punched him before he was teleported to them.
I also said that no one explicitly stated that the wound made Thor worse at fighting, but that Odin expressed amazement that Thor had been able to fight with the wound.
These answer EXACTLY what you asked.
And I basically said Thor didn't show anything during any of his fights that his wound did anything to him.
I guess me and you see Thor differently. I think Thor can handle more than a single hit from Serpent.
Odin underestimated Thor, that's all. I have seen Thor fight at his peak while having his insides chewed up. I don't think he is as weak as you think he is.
Originally posted by carver9
And I basically said Thor didn't show anything during any of his fights that his wound did anything to him.I guess me and you see Thor differently. I think Thor can handle more than a single hit from Serpent.
Odin underestimated Thor, that's all. I have seen Thor fight at his peak while having his insides chewed up. I don't think he is as weak as you think he is.
He didn't show anything during his fight with the Surfer either, but later in his chambers he made it clear that the wound was hurting him constantly. That coupled with all-knowing Odin's statement about Thor's wound should be more than enough to indicate that he was in pain.
It doesn't matter what you think or don't think Thor can handle.
He handled the injury obviously, since he fought and beat them. I've never said anything to the contrary.
I said that Thor was injured from the wound in his side and the attack from the Serpent.
I'm sure you've seen plenty from your brief foray into half a respect-thread and the 5 Thor comics you've read.
Originally posted by The Sorrow
Ever since Thor #385 where it was established Hulk > Thor without Mjolnir in h2h he has been using Mjolnir in their fights.We have actually seen Thor go all out against Hulk using lightning (Hulk #300, IH #440 & Fear Itself #3) and Hulk resisted it each time. He also was able to resist it once during the 2001 Annual. Lightning is his most potent weapon so why wouldn't he fall back on that?
Well he almost killed Thing but he couldn't actually defeat Hulk, he just about removed him from the battlefield with his last attack. Bfr is off in this thread.
Originally posted by ODG
Ultimately, Thor has to use restraint with Mjolnir. Otherwise, things like this happen. Here, Balder councils Thor against Mjolnir's unfettered power when they speak on his nearly killing Rulk in their rematch, from Breaking Into Comics The Marvel Way #2:
Originally posted by krisblaze
He could, and we've seen that the drain's effects are more or less instantenous.Thor couldn't do it, however, because....I don't know... some reason!
Why are you responding like I said that Thor never used lightning against Hulk? That's not what I said and I'd like your post to reflect what I wrote, not the argument you've construed in your head. I specifically stated that he had used it 3 times.
300? I see no lightning hitting Hulk. I see lightning striking by them, but from the looks of things its hitting Thor as much as its hitting Hulk, no resisting there.
IH #440 Thor used lightning on him. Hulk was hurt. Thor flew over to him. He resisted it? It's not something he can push against. The lightning hurt him.
Fear itself: Did you not read the exchange between them? -I couldn't defeat you- "I know" -did you now?- Thor knocks him into space. This isn't an concession, it's a taunt. This was also a Thor that had been suffering a fatal injury over a month, and had taken a beaten before he even met Hulk/Thing 😐
You asked why people thought this was a stomp, I replied saying that people probably think it's a stomp because Thor has never used anything beyond lightning against the Hulk, and the times he did use lightning he did it sparingly and only in a few of their many fights.
Thor has used Mjolnir in MOST of their fights apart from the very early days, yes most of them are straight melee but we have several instances of Thor using lightning, and while they hurt Hulk he was able to fight on in all bar one showing in which he was ko'd (possibly surprised) by the attack but managed to recovered moments later.
Being the god of Thunder, it should be pretty obvious why Thor is going to be surrounded by lightning, he used hammer shots aswell while not holding back but they didn't seem to affect Hulk much outside of knocking him around (Hulk #300).
Again, if that's the reasoning that Thor stomps then it isn't backed up by facts because their fights tell a different story including the ones Thor HAS used more than melee and HAS gone all out. Besides godblast (which is an absolutely last resort attack) what attacks does he currently have more powerful than lightning?
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
He would kill Hulk with Mjolnir if he stopped holding back so much. In this scan, the writer later clarified that it was Hulk who was getting smacked in the face.
Iirc he said it was originally meant to be Hulk but it ended up as the Red Hulk.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Did you miss the part where I said it was later clarified by the writer that it was Hulk on those two panels and not Rulk?Kevin Grevioux in an interview later confirmed that the coloring was off and it was indeed Hulk and not Rulk.
Just want to make sure you knew it was Red Hulk.
Originally posted by carver9
Could work. Could you see Thor using it in a kill mindset or Hulk being still enough to allow Thor to use it?
Would work.
Why wouldn't he?
Hulk doesn't have to allow anything when Thor can fly far faster then he can jump/move and he has powerful long range attacks and the draining starts working instantly.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Would work.Why wouldn't he?
Hulk doesn't have to allow anything when Thor can fly far faster then he can jump/move and he has powerful long range attacks and the draining starts working instantly.
Do you have any examples of Thor draining abilities?
I think Hulk would be all over Thor as soon as the bell rings.
Originally posted by carver9
Do you have any examples of Thor draining abilities?I think Hulk would be all over Thor as soon as the bell rings.
😐
You've been on this board for long enough to know most of them. Heck, I've personally presented a few to you. Anyways, check out ODG's respect thread.
Even if they were already brawling, Thor's strong and powerful enough to give himself breathing room. Not that they would be. Thor flies far faster then Hulk moves and has multiple long range options to make Hulk regretting charging right in.
