Originally posted by krisblaze
Yes.If I enter a room and three pirates jump at me and beat me that's a surprise attack.
Even if I see them jumping at me when I open the door it would be still be a surprise attack.
So even though Hulk transformed...say rrrrrrrrrrrrrr, Thor then say by the gods.
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd124/HulkFights/Vs%20Thor/Fight%205/1.jpg
What else should have happened in that scene for it not to be a surprised attack from a guy you've been battle for 2 issues?
Originally posted by carver9
So even though Hulk transformed...say rrrrrrrrrrrrrr, Thor then say by the gods.http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd124/HulkFights/Vs%20Thor/Fight%205/1.jpg
What else should have happened in that scene for it not to be a surprised attack from a guy you've been battle for 2 issues?
I don't know what Thor 'should' think. I only know that he was surprised.
He was also in the middle of teleporting them...
Originally posted by krisblaze
I don't know what Thor 'should' think. I only know that he was surprised.He was also in the middle of teleporting them...
So even though Hulk grows in mass, say rrrrrrrrrrrrrr, then Thor look up, then had enough time to say "by the gods" and it's still a surprise attack? You're full of excuses.
Originally posted by carver9
So even though Hulk grows in mass, say rrrrrrrrrrrrrr, then look up, then had enough time to say "by the gods" and it's still a surprise attack? You're full of excuses.
Thor is carrying Hulk with one arm and teleporting with the other, he should've done what?
He was obviously surprised when the Hulk attacked him.
I don't know or care what you think Thor should be thinking. He was surprised by the attack.
Originally posted by krisblaze
Sorry, I read it as a reference to their first three fights 🙂I still disagree that Thor caught Hulk unaware with the lightning as the Hulk was clearly attacking him.
Hulk's attack on Thor however was a cheapshot considering that Thor was in the process of saving Banner's life..
Again this is open to interpretation aswell. They aren't clean wins by any means, however it's the only win Thor has over Hulk, which baffles me as to why people think it's a stomp in his favour.
Originally posted by krisblaze
I'm full of explanations, though you choose not to listen to them.Thor is carrying Hulk with one arm and teleporting with the other, he should've done what?
He was obviously surprised when the Hulk attacked him.
I don't know or care what you think Thor should be thinking. He was surprised by the attack.
Gotcha. So Hulk transforming, leans up, look at Thor, say rrrrrrrrrrrrrr, Thor screams "by the gods" and it's still a surprise attack? Makes a lot of sense.
Yes.
What do you think 'by the gods' mean? Do you think it's an exclamation of surprise? Or...?
Originally posted by The Sorrow
You're free to disagree I did say it was open to interpretation. If he was really intent on blindsiding Thor I don't think he would be yelling at him to turn around and fight though.Again this is open to interpretation aswell. They aren't clean wins by any means, however it's the only win Thor has over Hulk, which baffles me as to why people think it's a stomp in his favour.
And because he's used lightning in 3 out of 12 matches despite having all these other very easy to use powers.
Maybe that and the fact that the last time they fought a dying Thor beat both amped Hulk and Thing.
Originally posted by krisblaze
Yes.What do you think 'by the gods' mean? Do you think it's an exclamation of surprise? Or...?
They probably think it's stomp because Thor's been using his fists and not his hammer in half the matches.
And because he's used lightning in 3 out of 12 matches despite having all these other very easy to use powers.
Maybe that and the fact that the last time they fought a dying Thor beat both amped Hulk and Thing.
Agree to disagree.
Don't consider bfring as a win but what ever.
Originally posted by krisblaze
They probably think it's stomp because Thor's been using his fists and not his hammer in half the matches.And because he's used lightning in 3 out of 12 matches despite having all these other very easy to use powers.
Maybe that and the fact that the last time they fought a dying Thor beat both amped Hulk and Thing.
We have actually seen Thor go all out against Hulk using lightning (Hulk #300, IH #440 & Fear Itself #3) and Hulk resisted it each time. He also was able to resist it once during the 2001 Annual. Lightning is his most potent weapon so why wouldn't he fall back on that?
Well he almost killed Thing but he couldn't actually defeat Hulk, he just about removed him from the battlefield with his last attack. Bfr is off in this thread.
He could, and we've seen that the drain's effects are more or less instantenous.
Thor couldn't do it, however, because....I don't know... some reason!
Originally posted by The Sorrow
Ever since Thor #385 where it was established Hulk > Thor without Mjolnir in h2h he has been using Mjolnir in fights.We have actually seen Thor go all out against Hulk using lightning (Hulk #300, IH #440 & Fear Itself #3) and Hulk resisted it each time. He also was able to resist it once during the 2001 Annual. Lightning is his most potent weapon so why wouldn't he fall back on that?
Well he almost killed Thing but he couldn't actually defeat Hulk, he just about removed him from the battlefield with his last attack. Bfr is off in this thread.
Why are you responding like I said that Thor never used lightning against Hulk? That's not what I said and I'd like your post to reflect what I wrote, not the argument you've construed in your head. I specifically stated that he had used it 3 times.
300? I see no lightning hitting Hulk. I see lightning striking by them, but from the looks of things its hitting Thor as much as its hitting Hulk, no resisting there.
IH #440 Thor used lightning on him. Hulk was hurt. Thor flew over to him. He resisted it? It's not something he can push against. The lightning hurt him.
Fear itself: Did you not read the exchange between them? -I couldn't defeat you- "I know" -did you now?- Thor knocks him into space. This isn't an concession, it's a taunt. This was also a Thor that had been suffering a fatal injury over a month, and had taken a beaten before he even met Hulk/Thing 😐
You asked why people thought this was a stomp, I replied saying that people probably think it's a stomp because Thor has never used anything beyond lightning against the Hulk, and the times he did use lightning he did it sparingly and only in a few of their many fights.
If Thor after a little physical duel goes into the air and lets this loose on Hulk:
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Destroys the landscape with the Hulk and finishes off the Frost Giant army with a huge lightning onslaught:
How does Hulk get a win? Honestly. The feedback, from that, the little stuff that was still clinging to Thor, knocked the Hulk out. How is this even a debate?
Originally posted by krisblaze
He could, and we've seen that the drain's effects are more or less instantenous.Thor couldn't do it, however, because....I don't know... some reason!
Why are you responding like I said that Thor never used lightning against Hulk? That's not what I said and I'd like your post to reflect what I wrote, not the argument you've construed in your head. I specifically stated that he had used it 3 times.
300? I see no lightning hitting Hulk. I see lightning striking by them, but from the looks of things its hitting Thor as much as its hitting Hulk, no resisting there.
IH #440 Thor used lightning on him. Hulk was hurt. Thor flew over to him. He resisted it? It's not something he can push against. The lightning hurt him.
Fear itself: Did you not read the exchange between them? -I couldn't defeat you- "I know" -did you now?- Thor knocks him into space. This isn't an concession, it's a taunt. This was also a Thor that had been suffering a fatal injury over a month, and had taken a beaten before he even met Hulk/Thing 😐
You asked why people thought this was a stomp, I replied saying that people probably think it's a stomp because Thor has never used anything beyond lightning against the Hulk, and the times he did use lightning he did it sparingly and only in a few of their many fights.
What fight did Thor have before facing Thing/Hulk? Also, was it ever stated that Thor wound affected his fighting prowess? Also, Ms. Marvel did better against Nul than Thor did (and Hulk was mind controlled).
Originally posted by carver9
What fight did Thor have before facing Thing/Hulk? Also, was it ever stated that Thor wound affected his fighting prowess? Also, Ms. Marvel did better against Nul than Thor did (and Hulk was mind controlled).
The serpent. He didn't fight him, he was just punched.
Did anyone ever say 'oh wow, that giant gaping wound in Thor's side sure must've diminished his fighting prowess' ? No. Odin, however, is amazed that Thor was able to keep fighting despite his injury.
Ok.
