Mobile and Portable Electronics

Started by AsbestosFlaygon8 pages

http://www.gsmarena.com/google_unveils_android_50_lolipop_as_an_official_version_name-news-9938.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/google_nexus_6_is_official_with_6inch_qhd_and_snapdragon_805-news-9937.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/htcmade_google_nexus_9_announced_with_tegra_k1_chip_43_screen-news-9936.php

The "L" codename turns out to be Android Lollipop.
Nice that the Nexus 4 is still going to get the update.

Google/Motorola Nexus 6 is a BEAST.
But €569/649 seems to be pretty steep for a Nexus device.
The lack of microSD is a deal-breaker for me.

The Google/HTC Nexus 9 looks like an interesting device.
Might be my first tablet purchase, if the reviews are positive.

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
http://www.gsmarena.com/google_unveils_android_50_lolipop_as_an_official_version_name-news-9938.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/google_nexus_6_is_official_with_6inch_qhd_and_snapdragon_805-news-9937.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/htcmade_google_nexus_9_announced_with_tegra_k1_chip_43_screen-news-9936.php

The "L" codename turns out to be Android Lollipop.
Nice that the Nexus 4 is still going to get the update.

Google/Motorola Nexus 6 is a BEAST.
But €569/649 seems to be pretty steep for a Nexus device.
The lack of microSD is a deal-breaker for me.

The Google/HTC Nexus 9 looks like an interesting device.
Might be my first tablet purchase, if the reviews are positive.

I think they are doing away with Micro SD slots because both Apple and Google are pushing their cloud storage solutions.

Well, that sucks.

I'm amongst those who prefer to keep physical backups (USB sticks, microSDs, external SSDs) as my main form of storage solution.

Still iffy with all these cloud storage options, especially with the privacy and security risks they come with.

What do you guys think about the Sony SmartWatch 3?

IMHO, it has the most practical design among the current available smartwatches. The plastic or resin case is more suitable for people with active lifestyles.
Not to mention, the design is quite attractive.

I updated my sister's iPod Touch 5th Gen to iOS 8.0.2 recently, and now I'm tinkering with it.

The lag is unbearable. So much worse than my Galaxy S5 on Kitkat 4.4.4.

Yeah, I wish Apple wouldn't allow iOS 8 on A5 chips. It's a terrible move, and makes the devices much less usable. I mean, the A5 chips came out in early 2011.....

Same thing with most low-end Android phones running KitKat.

I don't understand why some Android OEMs keep pushing updates to devices that barely meet the minimum requirements to run the OS.
I think they're trying to force users to upgrade their phones to their more expensive offerings.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yeah, I wish Apple wouldn't allow iOS 8 on A5 chips. It's a terrible move, and makes the devices much less usable. I mean, the A5 chips came out in early 2011.....

Were you and I talking about iOS being an OS that is....part of Apple's marketing scheme?

Let me give you an example:

Windows 7: has more features and pragmatism than Windows Vista. Runs even better on hardware that can run Vista (faster, etc.). Updates improve performance and add features of the OS. The hardware intense graphical features can be disabled for older hardware OR just simply to improve performance on new hardware.

iOS 8: has more features and fixes than previous version of iOS. Runs slower on older hardware. Updates sometimes slow down performance even on newer hardware. Some updates improve performance in certain areas.

Seems pretty obvious that Apple is pushing you into buying their new phones since that is their profit model: margins.

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
Same thing with most low-end Android phones running KitKat.

I don't understand why some Android OEMs keep pushing updates to devices that barely meet the minimum requirements to run the OS.
I think they're trying to force users to upgrade their phones to their more expensive offerings.

Really depends on the phone. It seems Android phones are hit or miss with updates on performance. The problem is not as obvious on some Android phones as it is iPhones. Both suffer from manufacturers trying to force you into buying newer phones.

I have heard the theory before. I just don't think that's the real reason. Really they are caught between a rock and a hard place. Either they are "obsoleting" the phone by putting an OS on that makes it slow or they are "obsoleting" the phone by not updating it anymore. There's no way to win, at least not as long as the OSs haven't matured to the degree that Windows and OS X have, where updates can actually be better performance-wise even for older hardware.

Wow .. Nice One there ........ Wish It Mine .....................

Originally posted by Bardock42
Either they are "obsoleting" the phone by putting an OS on that makes it slow or they are "obsoleting" the phone by not updating it anymore.

The Windows 7 OS is used to prove that what you state here is a false-dichotomy. In an OS update, you can have both new features and performance increases. Apple has even done this before with iOS...

They usually don't, though. Telling of their business model, I think. 313

The best argument I have read against my position is the immaturity of phone software-hardware "synthesis." My counter-argument to that it is almost factually incorrect that software-hardware "synthesis" is still immature on mobile phones. Here is why: probably the biggest name in market trends in technology, Gartner Gropu, says that smart phones have long since reached the end of the "technological hype-cycle." This means that they have long since matured the "synthesis".

Originally posted by Bardock42
There's no way to win, at least not as long as the OSs haven't matured to the degree that Windows and OS X have, where updates can actually be better performance-wise even for older hardware.

I'll be honest: I did not read this far down into your post when I typed everything above. Yeah, you're making the same argument as others: smarthphone software-hardware synthesis has not reached the same level of maturity as PCs. I don't buy it. When you have smartphones that are more powerful than what many PCs were, 5 years ago, AND those 5 year old PCs run Windows 7 much faster than they did Vista, the argument is invalid. Here's why: OS programming is very similar to PC OS programming. They still have dedicated GPUs and CPUs. Still RAM allocation. Still display stuff. etc. etc. etc. They are not apples (ha!) and oranges.

Here's the bottom line: Apple is updating iOS in a way that it forces obsolescence in smartphones so that it forces consumers to have to update their hardware. I think this is unaffectionately called "planned obsolescence."

This was actually something that Apple was doing before they even had their iPhone: this was a "well-known" issue among techies that supported Macs.

There is a list of common tactics used by organizations that is part of a "planned obsolescence strategy." I'll see if i can find that list in one of my old college textbooks...but, iirc, Apple uses almost all of those tactics in the list.

Like I said, I am aware of the "planned obsolesce" argument, it has recently been very well discussed in the Apple minded blogosphere, I just don't buy that it is actually what's happening.

Samsung just recently revealed the Galaxy S5 Plus.

It's the same phone with the newer SD 805 chipset.

😐

I've been going back and forth on buying an iPad Air 2 and/or a Mac Mini

Oh also, while I'm not considering getting it, I think the new Retina iMac is probably the most interesting new product in the PC space. Even more so than the Mac Pro, which was already amazing. I think Apple will continue to pick up more and more share of the PC market over the next couple years.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Oh also, while I'm not considering getting it, I think the new Retina iMac is probably the most interesting new product in the PC space. Even more so than the Mac Pro, which was already amazing. I think Apple will continue to pick up more and more share of the PC market over the next couple years.

I've hacked and tapped all your phones and electronics, you are mine...boy!

Why would you do that?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Why would you do that?

Something came over me and since Robtard failed to get the rail gun weapon fired on your location; I figured I better keep you in my back pocket.

Okay, good. But for the time being I can just carry on as normal, yes, master?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Okay, good. But for the time being I can just carry on as normal, yes, master?

Yes carry on.

Post teh nudes of Marius.