Super Saiyan Broly VS Thor

Granted, Goku had to amp himself with the power of the other Z fighters to beat Broly, however, each of them had just been beat to shit by him, thus were tremendously weakened at the time(the Saiyans, for example, couldn't even maintain their SSJ forms, and had regressed to their base-levels--traditionally this only happens when they've literally depleted nearly all of their energy.) That being said, I really don't think they could have possibly lended much to Goku at that point... Yet with their added power, Goku still wtf!spite-stomped Broly.

So I'd have it as: SSJ2 Gohan(Cell-era)~SPCell>Movie 8 SSJ Goku(amped)>LSSJ Broly~PCell>ASSJ Goku. But that's just me. 🙂

How is Broly on any version of Cell's level? Maybe version 1 but the androids have better battle feats tbf.

The ease in which he stomped multiple SSJs+Kamiccolo simultaneously, puts him comfortably on PCell's level.

Originally posted by Stanor
Far stronger than SPC who (by Powerscaling) is star buster.

Except that he isn't a star buster

Cell is a star buster.

Yeah, SPCell possessed SSJ2-esque power. It's silly to assume that he couldn't destroy a star(at the very least), given that base-form Frieza(PL=530,000) could casually destroy planets with an insignificant micro-fraction of his power.

...Furthermore, it's very doubtful that Akira would've had SPCell boast that he had enough power to destroy the entire solar system, if he didn't even possess enough power to destroy a star. /shrug

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Except that he isn't a star buster

Earth: 2.24e32j
The sun (Sol): 6.87e41j

That's the difference between the amount of energy required to destroy Earth and to destroy the sun.

Literally a difference of over a billion times.

If you were to scale power levels, I doubt even Kid Buu would reach that level. But he has the feats to grant him star busting capability so it doesn't matter.

Which brings us to our next point. Power level and actual effective power in the series don't really correlate exactly. For example, farmer with shotgun has a power level of 5. Yet Master Roshi, who is "only" a little less than 28 times the power level of Master Roshi, can destroy the moon. One assumes the farmer can't produce 1/28th of that energy.

Originally posted by NemeBro
One assumes the farmer can't produce 1/28th of that energy.

Do you have a single fact to back that up?

Originally posted by Stanor
By powerscaling yes he is.

Based on?

Originally posted by NemeBro

Which brings us to our next point. Power level and actual effective power in the series don't really correlate exactly. For example, farmer with shotgun has a power level of 5. Yet Master Roshi, who is "only" a little less than 28 times the power level of Master Roshi, can destroy the moon. One assumes the farmer can't produce 1/28th of that energy.

Roshi can increase and manipulate his power level, so his Kamehameha beam is stronger than his base power level.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Do you have a single fact to back that up?

Anyone who ever learned to shoot a Kamehameha beam. Granted it would be uselessly weak, but would pack more than the farmer's punch.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Do you have a single fact to back that up?

Not sure why you're baffled by this..?

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Based on?

Powerscaling.

Frieza holding back destroyed a planet 11x larger than Earth. That same Frieza who was near death AND survived the planet's explosion. This would put Frieza on Large Planet Durability++++. That same Frieza who came back even stronger was easily sliced by Trunks and had his body destroyed by trunks by relative ease. King cold who was stronger than Frieza also got obliterated by trunkd with relative ease. Android 18 broke trunks sword (and also beat the shit out of him along with vegeta) displaying that she is WAY over Frieza and King Cold. Imperfect cell was already above Android 18 and semi perfect cell is many times stronger. I could keep going but I already made my point.

Goku could produce a kamehameha with a power level of like ten and he didn't produce 1/14th of Roshi's power. Even if you consider the moon feat an outlier it's still not nearly that fraction of the castle busting feat.

Originally posted by Stanor
Powerscaling.

Frieza holding back destroyed a planet 11x larger than Earth. That same Frieza who was near death AND survived the planet's explosion. This would put Frieza on Large Planet Durability++++. That same Frieza who came back even stronger was easily sliced by Trunks and had his body destroyed by trunks by relative ease. King cold who was stronger than Frieza also got obliterated by trunkd with relative ease. Android 18 broke trunks sword (and also beat the shit out of him along with vegeta) displaying that she is WAY over Frieza and King Cold. Imperfect cell was already above Android 18 and semi perfect cell is many times stronger. I could keep going but I already made my point.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Goku could produce a kamehameha with a power level of like ten and he didn't produce 1/14th of Roshi's power. Even if you consider the moon feat an outlier it's still not nearly that fraction of the castle busting feat.

Or power levels are bullshit.

Him being unable to do much more than poke a hole in a castle wall at that point was explicitly the limit of his ki power at the time. He had to train under Roshi to get stronger.

Restricted? In terms of overall potency? Nah. Only limited in collateral damage. Generally, if character x is stronger than character y, character x will win the beam wars.