Super Saiyan Broly VS Thor

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Originally posted by NemeBro
We see him fly through space to another world once. 😐

We actually see him use a space ship more times.

Glad to know you can't prove he flew to those planets himself though.


Saiyans can't survive in space, of course he needed a frigging space ship, Carver.

@Cosmic...

We do have this showing as well. Krillin and Gohan firing an attack and they out race it to its destination.

http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/303411-fat_super.jpg.html?sort=9&o=12

Originally posted by ScreamPaste

Saiyans can't survive in space, of course he needed a frigging space ship, Carver.

Look at the film. Why are you debating against a character you have no idea of his abilities...let alone seen the film. Broly flew threw space...even as a baby.

Originally posted by NemeBro
We see him fly through space to another world once. 😐

We actually see him use a space ship more times.

Glad to know you can't prove he flew to those planets himself though.

Aaaahhhhh, so he flew threw space on a ship that was going FTL while destroying planets at the same time? That means that his reflexes and his perception is FTL. I can accept that as well.

Originally posted by Lek Kuen
Wasn't it shown that the dragonball catch, guldo stopped time for?

Burta would have stopped as well. So I guess Burta can move so fast that he can move through time stop.

Originally posted by Lek Kuen
Not seeing how that scan is bad. Since you also think that Hulk will counter a blitzing flash irc.

Lol...Hulk blitz all.

Originally posted by carver9
Aaaahhhhh, so he flew threw space on a ship that was going FTL while destroying planets at the same time? That means that his reflexes and his perception is FTL. I can accept that as well.
??? He could stop you know...

Originally posted by pym-ftw
??? He could stop you know...

So again, like I said before, he flew to a planet, stopped, blew it up, flew to another one, stopped, blew it up. How long would it take someone in a ship, opening that slow A** door, to fly to each planet, star in a galaxy and cause enough damage to devastate it (to the point that it was stated that the Galaxy was destroyed)? How old would that make Broly? Then add that age to Goku and Chichi since they are the same age.

Originally posted by carver9
Burta would have stopped as well. So I guess Burta can move so fast that he can move through time stop.

Naw I got it wrong, it wasn't stopped. Still doesn't prove that Burter is FTL

As I don't remember that era Gohan and them having any FTL feats

Originally posted by NemeBro
[B]It's only an appeal to motive my friend if I use it to support my argument. I'm not bringing up your transparent motives in an attempt to do anything of the sort. I am simply bringing them up.

You're getting too defensive, it's okay man. I think Superman is on average much faster than Thor too. 👆

You brought that up in an attempt to discredit my position.


All right, let me spell this out to you.

How far away would you wager the Thors were from Gorr when the chunk of moon reached them? Ten planetary diameters maybe?

Now, Gorr somehow managed to pick up a huge chunk of the moon, and toss it at them at about an equivalent speed when they were that close. While they were moving millions of times faster than the speed of light.

And you somehow believe Gorr can't have FTL reaction-time?

Sorry, but what? On what basis do you have to claim that his toss was at an equivalent speed of their flight? Not to mention, by claiming they were large pieces, you also take away from the supposed accuracy bit you were going for.


Good, at least we agree on this.

Yes, and they all have obviously well sub-lightspeed reaction time.


I don't recall King Kai having to react to Goku's speed, he just had to sense his Ki.

That's all Gorr would have had to do too. Sense their energy, throw big chunks in the direction that said energy was travelling. Not any huge mental, mathematical calculations he'd have to run in his head about their trajectory or anything. He had seconds to sense them, form retaliation attempt, they were only going in one likely direction afterall (straight at him), and he tossed a huge chunk in that direction.


So you believe he chose to throw the rocks very very slowly, rather than at the full speed he could muster?

This reminds me of when people used to argue Zeus chose to throw slow lightning bolts at Kratos.

Lolwut? He was throwing them as fast as he could within the few seconds he had, obviously. They were simply not faster than light.

He flew FTL. So did the Thors. Why is he suddenly assumed to be throwing chunks of the moon FTL though?


It's a much more complicated, far more brainless explanation without need for FTL reflexes, sure.

If it takes more thought to point out, then it is most certainly not more 'brainless', cretin.

Sure, I suppose you can say 'Occam's Razor', perhaps, but you can't quantify with bullets points to be overwhelmingly in your favor, nor would throwing that term out simply give you carte blanche to think whatever you want when another explanation works just as well, just as easily, and does not create an outlier within Thor's entire FTL-reflexless history.

Originally posted by Lek Kuen
Naw I got it wrong, it wasn't stopped. Still doesn't prove that Burter is FTL

As I don't remember that era Gohan and them having any FTL feats

You was correct, lol, time was stopped and Burta moved through time stop and Goku while not even powered up was much faster.

Well, Goku did out race the solar flare as a child and then you have Piccolo attacks being dodged who have on panel showings of shooting FTL attacks and that isn't even comparable to the blasts Frieza was shooting that Piccolo was surprised he couldn't detect (that was much faster than his FTL attack).

Originally posted by carver9
So again, like I said before, he flew to a planet, stopped, blew it up, flew to another one, stopped, blew it up. How long would it take someone in a ship, opening that slow A** door, to fly to each planet, star in a galaxy and cause enough damage to devastate it (to the point that it was stated that the Galaxy was destroyed)? How old would that make Broly? Then add that age to Goku and Chichi since they are the same age.
... I'm unsure what your point is unless you have a real number of planets he destroyed.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
... I'm unsure what your point is unless you have a real number of planets he destroyed.

However many planets and stars that are in a GALAXY to the point that this happened.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W7jEiiT5RDo

Do I honestly have to post the vid on how slow his space ship door open? Do you all really want to lowball? Like for real.

So no you don't have a number.

Lol at slow doors vs roughly 30 years of flying around.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
So no you don't have a number.

Lol at slow doors vs roughly 30 years of flying around.

So it would take 30 yrs to devastate a Galaxy when you're stopping at each planet, opening a door that takes longer than it takes for me to type this sentence? Is that what you are saying? Then, when the Galaxy was destroyed, Goku met Broly the next day. That's the fastest ship in existence since again, it stopped, the door opened, and Broly had to blast, etc...and that would still mean his reflexes are FTL. Also, we see the Galaxy destroyed in seconds as shown on the vid.

Show him in frame moving faster than light, he has 3 movies if he could it would have shown it.

He got killed by a Goku punch a guy who maxes out at well below Thor.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Show him in frame moving faster than light, he has 3 movies if he could it would have shown it.

He got killed by a Goku punch a guy who maxes out at well below Thor.

😂 at maxing out below Thor. Also 😂 Goku had power added to his own from the other Z fighters which is the reason he was able to defeat Broly.

Also, why do I need to prove how fast Broly is when I can prove Master Roshi is faster than Thor.

http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/3559755-thorvswolverine02_zpsc5a391d9.jpg.html?sort=9&o=51

Flight speed doesn't equal combat speed. At all. So stop using it as evidence.

Also, where does Super Saiyan Goku maxes out at?

You prove goku can lift the earth we will start there.

Does Thor fly through planets in space or are you just salty that you have no argument?

Originally posted by pym-ftw
You prove goku can lift the earth we will start there.

Does Thor fly through planets in space or are you just salty that you have no argument?

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=G3qThJ_9090

56 minutes. Goku and Cell licks were so hard that the entire area around them were shaking as if it was an Earth quake. Boulders and everything around them were being destroyed due to the shockwaves of their blows. This happened consistently through DBZ. Wait, let me guess, you're going to result to the Gorr fight for Thor.

Also, Gohan being worried about Videl tapped his foot on the ground while not even in Super Saiyan form and created a city wide Earth Quake FROM A Tap while not even powered up. Wait, let me guess, you're going to bring up the Gorr showing. Goku kicked Frieza so hard that the entire area they were fighting in shook as if it was an Earth quake and two mountains were destroyed during the process. Wait, let me guess, you are going to bring up the Gorr showing. Their hitting power is insane (that's not even their best) and Goku AND Broly would knock Thor the hell out.

So all i heard is "Bro, can't beat the Gorr showing" it's okay dude, the Dbz characters are glass cannons. Akira Toriyama supposedly is going to continue the story from the Buu saga so maybe that will change.

I'd personally put the top tier Z fighters at Namor level physically, able to compete with top tiers but the moment things get serious they get crushef.