Dc buckles under pressure and moves Sup/Bat release date

Originally posted by Lestov16
Metacritic is clearly not the objective standard of film quality, as they gave Prometheus a higher score than any of the above-mentioned films, and that's obviously not true.Also, box office is non-indicative of a film's quality, exampled by bad films such as Bayformers having massive success and good films like Edge Of Tomorrow being near-bombs.

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Imdb and Audience ratings on Rotten Tomatoes are generally much better, though still far from perfect.

Originally posted by Bardock42
lol

Actually Fanboy Hater, he's right.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER

Actually Fanboy Hater, he's right.

I know he's right, it's amusing because you earlier argued on the other side. You are betraying your own fanboyism, while my stance has been the same.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I know he's right, it's amusing because you earlier argued on the other side. You are betraying your own fanboyism, while my stance has been the same.

No, I called you and Firefly out with your BS.

You kept continuously hating on MOS, making out it's a practically a fact that the movie failed, then saying "Hey it's just My opinion," and I said well it's not the GA's opinion so stop with the hate.

But then when I baited you 2 with this line:

Originally posted by DARTH POWER

Neither of those films even touched MOS though. That was just proper action packed fun.

And you both went crazy.. Even trying a desperate attempt to "prove" that the GA preferred IM3 and Thor 2 over MOS by quoting Metacritic LOL. So why didn't you both leave me to my opinion, which was only expressed once, and not continually trashing both movies like a True Hater like you guys?

Oh that's right because your both showing your true colors as DC Hating Marvel Fanboys.

Actually, you may recall, that you were the one who kept saying "Hey it's just your opinion". Like twice at least.

I can't speak for Firefly of course, but I didn't leave you to your opinion, because it was extremely funny that you suddenly expressed it, after being so down on me expressing my opinion, and especially in a case where your previous lines of reasoning were actually in favour of the movies you didn't like. In essence, I thought it amusing to point out that you betrayed your MoS fanboyism so clearly, after generously dishing out that accusation left and right.

What I don't understand is how you figure I am a "DC Hating Marvel Fanboy" when I have been so extremely negative about The Amazing Spider-Man 2...surely, if anything, I am just a general hater....

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
No, I called you and Firefly out with your BS.

You kept continuously hating on MOS, making out it's a practically a fact that the movie failed, then saying "Hey it's just My opinion," and I said well it's not the GA's opinion so stop with the hate.

But then when I baited you 2 with this line:

And you both went crazy.. Even trying a desperate attempt to "prove" that the GA preferred IM3 and Thor 2 over MOS by quoting Metacritic LOL. So why didn't you both leave me to my opinion, which was only expressed once, and not continually trashing both movies like a True Hater like you guys?

Oh that's right because your both showing your true colors as DC Hating Marvel Fanboys.

You're an idiot. Calm your hormones and re-read what you posted, then read my response. You said Thor 2 and IM3 couldn't "touch" MoS. I simply pointed out that the general audience didn't massively prefer MoS to Thor 2 or IM3. The GA, on average, reviewed all three movies very similarly.

I never once said MoS failed. That was QUan. Maybe it underperformed just a little, but it was still a great box office success with generally mediocre to positive reviews. In my opinion, I happen to think it stunk shit though.

The only reason I started hating on DC was because they made Man of Steel, and then started making some questionable decisions in regards to their casting and movie plans. Before that, I loved what DC was doing with batman. Batman Begins was phenomenal, Heath Ledger was brilliant and TDKR was really good.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Wow talk about bull..

You want actual movie fan ratings, go to Imdb- Thor 2: 7.2, MOS 7.3, and IM3 7.4.

They're all actually about the same there. But still it's based on a selection of movie fans voting. It's not like your general audience all goes votes on there after watching the movie. And it's at a time when Marvel Love is at an all time high. Still MOS matches them there.

But you want ACTUAL FACTS for the subject? Look at the DVD and Blu-Ray Sales. People go to the cinema to watch movies they end up hating, but people generally only BUY movies they liked/loved.

And MOS won that hands down despite IM3 having like Double the Box Office Success of MOS. And that really says everything we need to know about that subject. Hands down factual.

And that is especially damn impressive at a time where everyone Loves Marvel above all else due to a few of their truly Epic films- (Iron Man 1 and Avengers being the truly epic ones which just about everyone loved). And with Marvel Hype at an all time high especially after Avengers more people chose to BUY MOS. That is impressive.

Oh and I like who you DC Haters and Marvel Fanboys are always like "What I think MOS was shiite it's MY OPINION, WHAT'S YOUR PROBLEM," and then the minute someone says your movies sucked your like

"NO THE GENERAL AUDIENCE DISAGREES BECAUSE METACRITIC SAYS SO LULZ" and "THATS MAJOR HYPERBOLE, SHUT UP AHHHGGG"

Go take your Hate Bullcrap METACRITIC Propoganda and spread it on some Marvel fanboy site. Or at least a Marvel fanboy Thread.

Relax with that tired argument. DVD sales don't mean shit. For all we know, the people who bought a majority of those DVDs didn't see the movie in theaters. Or maybe they had family that hadn't seen the movie. A person deciding to buy Man of Steel DVD is not a demonstration of preference to all other movies ever made. Just because I bought Hot Fuzz on DVD doesn't mean I prefer it to all the other movies that I potentially could have bought instead. The interpretation of DVD sales is all very subjective. And for all we know, the MoS DVDs could have had better marketing and promotion.

An objective measurement of GA preference is their review score. According to reviews on average, MoS roughly equaled IM3 and Thor 2. So the real BS here is you saying, "Thor 2 and IM3 can't touch MoS".

BTW, MoS only made 30 million more than IM3 in DVD sales. IM3 made like 700 million more in box office.

this thread needs more this..

Originally posted by Firefly218
Relax with that tired argument. DVD sales don't mean shit. For all we know, the people who bought a majority of those DVDs didn't see the movie in theaters. Or maybe they had family that hadn't seen the movie. A person deciding to buy Man of Steel DVD is not a demonstration of preference to all other movies ever made. Just because I bought Hot Fuzz on DVD doesn't mean I prefer it to all the other movies that I potentially could have bought instead. The interpretation of DVD sales is all very subjective. And for all we know, the MoS DVDs could have had better marketing and promotion.

An objective measurement of GA preference is their review score. According to reviews on average, MoS roughly equaled IM3 and Thor 2. So the real BS here is you saying, "Thor 2 and IM3 can't touch MoS".

BTW, MoS only made 30 million more than IM3 in DVD sales. IM3 made like 700 million more in box office.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Show me where it's stated what they originally predicted. Otherwise I'll assume that's another one of Quanchi's typical lies and BS. All the evidence is against you. Mos lead to the announcement of B v S. That means the studio was more than happy with it. MOS tripled it's budget and made its marketing costs back through sponsorships. After Superman Returns bombed MOS' s kind of financial success is only going to mean a very happy studio. Heck even without a previous bomb that would make any studio high on success and happiness. Mos' s high DVD/BLU-RAY Sales shows movie fans have given their thumbs up to it.

So yeah MOS was a Massive success. Show me this Insane and BS prediction figures after SR Bombed so we can all see the Quanchi jealousy and lies in action.

MOS was a frigging Awesome movie. Between MOS, B v S and JL this is going to be one bad ass DC trilogy Zack Synder's giving us but your going to hate every second of it. The jealousy will just burn you up.

The movie was pathetic and you championing it shows how easy it is to amuse you.

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
this thread needs more this..

Originally posted by Zack Fair
lol

i can find more..

Cap will do over $800WW, Batman/Superman over 1 billion.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Due to it being successful just not as successful as they originally predicted.

Show me what they predicted or stop Trolling.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The movie was pathetic and you championing it shows how easy it is to amuse you.

LOL Most people loved it. More so than the Marvel movies released that year. Keep crying about how much hype there is for B v S 😂

Originally posted by Firefly218
Relax with that tired argument. DVD sales don't mean shit. For all we know, the people who bought a majority of those DVDs didn't see the movie in theaters. Or maybe they had family that hadn't seen the movie. A person deciding to buy Man of Steel DVD is not a demonstration of preference to all other movies ever made. Just because I bought Hot Fuzz on DVD doesn't mean I prefer it to all the other movies that I potentially could have bought instead. The interpretation of DVD sales is all very subjective. And for all we know, the MoS DVDs could have had better marketing and promotion.

LOL Your really stringing to straws here.

Fact that MOS outsold IM3 on Blu-Ray and Dvd, a movie which did twice the sales of MOS at the box office says a lot.

I'm sorry this fact hurts you, but it's the truth, and any smart film producers would look at these little facts before going off in the same direction for the sequel.

Speaking of which, you can tell by this statement that even Kevin Feige can see shit went wrong with IM3:

http://comicbook.com/blog/2014/08/26/marvels-kevin-feige-praises-x-men-days-of-future-past/

"I've been thinking about Days of Future Past a lot, which I had nothing to do with, in terms of the resurrection of a franchise. I think they did a very good job with that," Feige said. "On Iron Man 3, I thought a lot about [X-Men: The Last Stand] and Spider-Man 3 and I thought a lot about Toy Story 3, and how to avoid falling into threequelitis, which is why we went down a lot of the roads we went down on that movie."

He clearly feels he has to justify the unorthodox route they took in IM3. Trust me they'll be learning from their mistakes with that shit.

Originally posted by Firefly218
An objective measurement of GA preference is their review score. According to reviews on average, MoS roughly equaled IM3 and Thor 2. So the real BS here is you saying, "Thor 2 and IM3 can't touch MoS".

BTW, MoS only made 30 million more than IM3 in DVD sales. IM3 made like 700 million more in box office.

LOL Of course Box Office does vastly better business than DVD Sales especially in the days of downloads. But the fact that IM3 made more than double MOS at the box office, yet still got OUTSOLD on Dvd and Blu-Ray sales says pretty much everything really.

MOS didn't outsell Avengers on DVD. You know why? Because Avengers also vastly outsold MOS at the box office, but people also preferred Avengers to MOS. So stop making excuses.

Many people watch a movie in theatres which THEY DON'T LIKE OR THEY HATE. People won't buy that movie on DVD or Blu-Ray though.

I'm a prime example. Saw IM3 on opening weekend, took 3 friends with me, was proper hyped for the film. But no way I'm buying that crap.

However I saw MOS with just one friend, and bought it as soon as it was released.

Sorry Hater, but that's the objective truth of the matter. I know it hurts, but it's ok. You and Quan can cry together.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
But the fact that IM3 made more than double MOS at the box office, yet still got OUTSOLD on Dvd and Blu-Ray sales says pretty much everything really.

What, like that people weren't really that into MoS, and hence didn't watch it in the cinema, but figured, meh, I guess we can buy the bargain bin DVD for a lazy Sunday?

Originally posted by Bardock42
What, like that people weren't really that into MoS, and hence didn't watch it in the cinema, but figured, meh, I guess we can buy the bargain bin DVD for a lazy Sunday?

I won't waste my time writing a comprehensive response for this troll, but that's exactly the point.

The interpretation of DVD sales is just as subjective as the interpretation of box office. The only difference is, DVD sales are generally more reliable considering that they're prefaced by theater showings. Nonetheless, both are subjective.

I repeat, the only objective measurement of audience approval ate their reviews. People directly state their approval or disapproval in reviews, thus the objectivity.

Example of subjective interpretation: Maybe DVD sales for MoS were higher because so many people saw IM3 in theaters multiple times, and therefore didn't feel the need to buy IM3 DVD.

Originally posted by Bardock42
What, like that people weren't really that into MoS, and hence didn't watch it in the cinema, but figured, meh, I guess we can buy the bargain bin DVD for a lazy Sunday?

It means of the countless more people who saw IM3 in the cinema more people still wanted to own MOS.

But clearly numbers are difficult for you to comprehend.

Originally posted by Firefly218
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I won't waste my time writing a comprehensive response for this troll,

LOL That's funny coming from the guy who stepped in the second I said Mos was much better than IM3 and Thor 2.

You and Bardock honestly belong in the same Hater Troll camp as Quanchi.

Honestly you're no different to him.

At least he admits to being Prejudice, which actually makes him better than you, because there's no pretense with him.

Originally posted by Firefly218

I repeat, the only objective measurement of audience approval ate their reviews. People directly state their approval or disapproval in reviews, thus the objectivity.

LOL How is that Objective?

Those are mostly Internet movie fans who vote on those things.

Frankly that's no more objective than having a vote on KMC about which is the best one.

Your desperate attempt to make fan votes the most "Objective" factor is hilarious.

Originally posted by Firefly218
Example of subjective interpretation: Maybe DVD sales for MoS were higher because so many people saw IM3 in theaters multiple times, and therefore didn't feel the need to buy IM3 DVD.

LOL Yeah you keep believing that.

Like I said Avengers sold more than MOS on Dvd/Blu-Ray which reflected it's much higher Box-Office Gross.

That's because it was a far more loved movie.

But carry making excuses. It's just laughable at this stage.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Show me what they predicted or stop Trolling.

LOL Most people loved it. More so than the Marvel movies released that year. Keep crying about how much hype there is for B v S 😂

You can't speak for most people who saw the film. There was a lot of hype for Man of Steel which turned out to be a repetitive stinker. It is about the quality of the film, troll.

Originally posted by Firefly218
Example of subjective interpretation: Maybe DVD sales for MoS were higher because so many people saw IM3 in theaters multiple times, and therefore didn't feel the need to buy IM3 DVD.

Or maybe they thought IM3 sucked ass and didn't want to see it again?

And the only reason IM3 made so much (IMO at least) was because it was the direct sequel to The Avengers.