Originally posted by Bardock42
I think whether something is a sequel or a reboot has nothing to do with the length of time that has passed, it's just based on what in universe time-line is accepted. Hence Superman Returns being a (somewhat loose) sequel of Superman 2.
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Star Wars 7 will be a sequel to Return of the Jedi
^ Yeah point you all seem to be missing is there's no Hulk sequel announced 6 years after the Original due to it's lack of financial success.
If Hulk did as well as the first Thor or Captain America you we would have had 2 sequels by now. 1 Minimum.
Star Wars and Bad Boys were not delayed due to financial failures of the previous films. Hulk has been delayed for exactly that reason.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
^ Yeah point you all seem to be missing is there's no Hulk sequel announced 6 years after the Original due to it's lack of financial success.If Hulk did as well as the first Thor or Captain America you we would have had 2 sequels by now. 1 Minimum.
Star Wars and Bad Boys were not delayed due to financial failures of the previous films. Hulk has been delayed for exactly that reason.
That's an assumption.
From the news I've heard, Avengers 2 will be a very hulk centric movie. For all we know, a hulk solo movie could have been delayed for Avengers 2 to come first. It could all be part of Marvel's plan. Maybe Marvel had a plan, which regardless of TIHs financial success, called for a solo hulk movie much later.
Hulk is also a very hard movie to do. Maybe, Marvel is still working on the script. Trying to perfect it.
Originally posted by Firefly218
That's an assumption.From the news I've heard, Avengers 2 will be a very hulk centric movie. For all we know, a hulk solo movie could have been delayed for Avengers 2 to come first. It could all be part of Marvel's plan. Maybe Marvel had a plan, which regardless of TIHs financial success, called for a solo hulk movie much later.
Hulk is also a very hard movie to do. Maybe, Marvel is still working on the script. Trying to perfect it.
It's not an assumption. The whole idea of "Hulk is a difficult movie to do on his own and get right" started due to the lack of financial success of his solo movies. And Marvel execs have been openly saying that since TIH and were even saying that after Avengers.
And LOL @ Trying to perfect it. That's what I said about B v S. With TIH they have to make it just work first, before they can perfect it.
But yeah because he worked well in the first Avengers and because he's getting no solo movies, they will give him a larger role in AOU.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
It's not an assumption. The whole idea of "Hulk is a difficult movie to do on his own and get right" started due to the lack of financial success of his solo movies. And Marvel execs have been openly saying that since TIH and were even saying that after Avengers.And LOL @ Trying to perfect it. That's what I said about B v S. With TIH they have to make it just work first, before they can perfect it.
But yeah because he worked well in the first Avengers and because he's getting no solo movies, they will give him a larger role in AOU.
It is an assumption, and remains an assumption until a Marvel representative officially confirms it.
The reason Marvel is waiting, imo, is because they have a plan.
And the fact that Marvel is having Hulk as a central character in the biggest and most expensive movie they have ever made in their history... That fact really discounts your notion that Marvel isn't confident in the financial efficacy of Hulk.
And before you say Avengers 2 also has Iron Man, Thor and Captain America - Marvel would still have to have high confidence in Hulk to give him the narrative focus.
Anyways, the next Hulk movie will technically be a sequel. In the MCU timeline, TIH, then Avengers, then Avengers 2, then Hulk solo movie.
Originally posted by Lestov16
My opinion is never wrong. You're just mad because they didn't focus on Superman's underwear as much as you wanted
Nah. I'd bet you loved it when supes went shirtless though. You swooned, didn't you?
btw, a 2 hour superman underwear commercial would've been more entertaining then shitty MoS
Originally posted by Firefly218
It is an assumption, and remains an assumption until a Marvel representative officially confirms it.The reason Marvel is waiting, imo, is because they have a plan.
They have done in the past saying he's a tricky character to tackle. They only said that after TIH didn't perform.
You expect them to outright state "we're too scared to take the risk with him again.." Come on man, be real. I get your a gigantic Marvel fan, but seriously be real.
TIH failed to perform. Hulk is the only Avenger not to get a sequel. And still doesn't even have one announced.
Do the math, and don't just suck up to Marvel for the sake of it.
Originally posted by Firefly218
And the fact that Marvel is having Hulk as a central character in the biggest and most expensive movie they have ever made in their history... That fact really discounts your notion that Marvel isn't confident in the financial efficacy of Hulk.And before you say Avengers 2 also has Iron Man, Thor and Captain America - Marvel would still have to have high confidence in Hulk to give him the narrative focus.
No because they decided after Avengers he works with a team, but still even after the Gigantic success of Avengers didn't have the confidence to give him another Solo movie yet.
They might now seeing as they've seen all the Individual Avengers have had huge box office boosts since the Avengers. And yet still no announcement or release date for another Hulk movie. I don't think TIH2 will even make it to Phase III at this rate.
Originally posted by Firefly218
Anyways, the next Hulk movie will technically be a sequel. In the MCU timeline, TIH, then Avengers, then Avengers 2, then Hulk solo movie.
Superman Returns was also in the same timeline as the Reeve Superman, but it was still essentially a reboot. But fact is they already gave us a reboot version of the Hulk (but in the same timeline) with the Avengers.
If they do ever make a Hulk solo movie again it will most likely be Mark Ruffalo's take on it.
Originally posted by DARTH POWERYeah.
Nah.LOL Says the DC Hating Marvel fanboy.
LOL YES LET THE BUTTHURT FLOW THROUGH YOU!
You go on about the so called failure of MOS which was clearly a success. Whilst Marvel with Hulk, whose according to you is their biggest Icon, really did fail with TIH.
Give me a release date for TIH Sequel, or shut your fanboy trap. Marvel failed their Icon 😂 (Icon was your own description of him 😂 )
Only hope for that now is waiting 10 years after TIH for a reboot 😂
I do not hate dc I pity them.
Mos wasn't the success they originally predicted. Not all good movies are huge successes.
I don't need to shut my trap. You're upset that marvel is handing them their asses. People recognize your double standards and are calling you on them.
Make mine marvel.