Voss-tiate runs the Gauntlet

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Voss-tiate runs the Gauntlet

The Emperor's Voice runs the Gauntlet 😎

In between fights he's fully healed, has prep for all fights:

Warm-up: Darth Malak

1. Count Dooku
2. Darth Vader (ROTJ)
3. Darth Plagueis
4. ROTS Sidious
5. DE Sidious

Boss: HoT, Revan, and Barsen'thor

Megaboss: DE Sidious and FOTJ Luke

With Prep and on Voss he can likely make it to the Megaboss.

With prep and rest? He makes it to 4. But Sidious is just too powerful for him.

You think RotS Sidious is better than Plagueis?

Originally posted by Nephthys
You think RotS Sidious is better than Plagueis?

I do.

I more or less put Plagueis and Vitiate on the same level, slightly below Sidious.

But you don't think Prep is enough to make up for a slight difference?

I don't think Vitiate's prep will matter much next to Sidious, no. He won't be mindhaxxing him nor has the environment been described as favorable to Vitiate (i.e. no dark side nexus for him to tap into).

I assumed this was on Voss. But I don't see why he needs something to tap into to significantly increase his powers with prep.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I assumed this was on Voss.

👆

Plus as a mystic, he'd get those visions. 😎

Originally posted by Nephthys
I assumed this was on Voss. But I don't see why he needs something to tap into to significantly increase his powers with prep.

True, but the problem with a dark side nexus is that other dark siders can wield that same energy. Sidious is already naturally more powerful than Vitiate; granting him access to a nexus of energy might only maintain that gap.

Because much of Vitiate's prep feats were on dark side nexuses. We have no way of knowing whether or not he could duplicate such feats, even with prep, without a nexus.

Except Vitiate would have much more time to draw upon that energy and utilise it in forming devastating attacks with his prep.

I think it's pretty apparent that a Sith as titanically knowledgeable as Vitiate would be more than capable of performing powerful rituals or deeply focusing his power given prep even off a nexus. I'd say it's very silly to suggest otherwise.

Regardless, Voss does have a nexus so he can draw upon it.

It could go either way with DE Sidious. He definitely falls against the Boss.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Except Vitiate would have much more time to draw upon that energy and utilise it in forming devastating attacks with his prep.

Do you actually have any evidence that Force works like that? In every media Force users at most take a few seconds to concentrate in order to unleash their most powerful attacks, in most cases they do it instantly.

Dooku is a lot more powerful than people recognise, Vitiate may get past him if he avoids lightsaber combat but considering prep... Vader he can beat but only with prep as earlier, but with Plagueis? he'd be speed blitzed.

Loses all except for Malak

Originally posted by Arhael
Do you actually have any evidence that Force works like that? In every media Force users at most take a few seconds to concentrate in order to unleash their most powerful attacks, in most cases they do it instantly.

So you think Vitiate can unleash an attack powerful enough to one-shot an entire Dark Council in a few seconds? That's fine by me! 👆

Originally posted by Nephthys
Except Vitiate would have much more time to draw upon that energy and utilise it in forming devastating attacks with his prep.

I think it's pretty apparent that a Sith as titanically knowledgeable as Vitiate would be more than capable of performing powerful rituals or deeply focusing his power given prep even off a nexus. I'd say it's very silly to suggest otherwise.

Regardless, Voss does have a nexus so he can draw upon it.

Er... I never denied that Vitiate was incapable of powerful rituals or deeply focusing his power off a nexus. I said we can't be sure even with prep he'd be capable of duplicating a nexus feat without a nexus. Nice strawman, though. 👆

The problem is that Sidious can draw upon nexuses too. I'd say Vitiate still goes down.

Stop at DE Sidious or Boss.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Er... I never denied that Vitiate was incapable of powerful rituals or deeply focusing his power off a nexus. I said we can't be sure even with prep he'd be capable of duplicating a nexus feat without a nexus. Nice strawman, though. 👆

The problem is that Sidious can draw upon nexuses too. I'd say Vitiate still goes down.

I think you meant "capable". And I'm not suggesting he'd "duplicate a nexus feat". I never even mentioned any feats. All I said was that obviously he could gain a significant increase in his power through prep. Vitiate is perhaps the most deeply knowledgeable Sith in history and he obviously knows a lot of devastating spells, rituals etc and any Sith seems capable of charging up their power Bane-style for a big F*ck-You attack. You said Vitiate was slightly weaker than Sidious. So how is Sidious going to deal with Vitiate significantly amping himself with prep, unleashing a ritual far beyond his usual capability or assaulting him with all his power charged up right out the gate, when Sidious has a split-second to defend himself?

And I still say that he couldn't gain nearly as much from as Vitiate could with prep. And even with a nexus I highly doubt RotS Sidious is taking the kind of attack that one-shot a Dark Council without looking like Vitiate one-shot his anus.

Originally posted by Kotor3
It could go either way with DE Sidious. He definitely falls against the Boss.

You're hilarious.