Originally posted by Blazing Storm
We dont know how many grains of sand Gaara had in his gourd at that time, but we have a number for Byakuya's petals.And ofcourse ichigo cant cut more than a hundred petals at a time because his sword is extremely thin.
Where are you getting this 15 minutes from? I'm pretty sure you're making this stuff up.
Anyways, crossing a few hundred kilometers in 15 minutes is only supersonic+
No she doesn't. You couldn't even debunk Ulquiorra being country level, and haven't proved Kaguya having country level durability so she's only a mid tier in Bleach.
Probably the same in OP, who are the fastest in the HST
If you wanna talk about hax, there's no way she's beating Juhabach who has 26 different sternritter abilities + 15 million degrees + his own vollstandig.
Grimmjow is 6 and Zommari is 7. Nuff said. 1 rank difference could have a huge gap in power as seen between Ulquiorra and Nnoitra.
Zommari only has the fastest Sonido, but his reaction/combat speed pales in comparision to Grimmjow. Stark is the fastest Espada and probably the strognest.
Except that Aizen also caught Komamura's strike with his bare hand without getting a scratch.
Just because he used a high level kido doesnt mean he definitely needed it to put Koma down. It was just the easier way out.
Do you realise that Aizen was just sitting casually in his chair and wasnt even trying to kill Grimmjow? So don't bring Aizen into this, as he's far above everyone else and can one-shot senior captains with a single slash.
And Byakuya may have gotten stronger between the arcs, and he didn't "stomp" Zommari. His bankai was just best suited to counter his ability (100 million blades >>> power to control 50 things)
Then tell me why Ichigo didnt use his mask immediately when the fight started. Its because he didnt want to go full power right from the start.
From where are you getting Dordonii > Byakuya? Byakuya almost beat Bankai Ichigo in SS before his hollow showed up.
Hollow Ichigo >> Bankai Ichigo = Byakuya > Zommari >> Dordonii > Shikai Ichigo
Uh, we don't have a specific number for how many Ichigo cut. We only have a mistranslated statement. We can still calc from average sand size, and how big Gaara's sand waves were, that Gaara had BILLIONS, if not TRILLIONS, of grains of sand at his disposal.
Uh, what? Read about physics. He could technically cut all of them with one swing if they were lined up, and he was strong enough physically. Not to mention that, technically speaking, his sword has about the same surface area as Lee's foot.
This is hilarious. You're trying to "debate" with me, but all you're proving is that you haven't even read the series.
The Kage had been flying at the same rate for a couple minutes, and the God's tree was still barely visible. Take into consideration that 1. They were fighting in separate countries. 2. The God's tree stretched all over the ENTIRE ninja world, from the leaf village, to the cloud village, to the sound, etc., and 3. GAARA CROSSED THIS DISTANCE WHILE CARRYING 4 PEOPLE, IN LESS THAN 15 MINUTES, WHILE INJURED. A few thousand kilometers in less than 15 minutes is 80,150 mph, making Gaara's travel speed over mach 65. That, as I have proven before, is over Aizen's speed without Hogyoku. Actually, about 3 times faster. Not to mention all the superior combat speed feats I can give of Naruto char's, as well as lightning speed+ and LS teleportation.
And Gaara is honestly one of the slowest characters in the whole series.
Oh, but I have. Far too many times, actually. Again, you're basing your argument off of one statement. I can base mine off of many ACTUAL feats. Considering LN was comparable in size to three hills. I can give you the scan again, if you want.
Kaguya's durability is superior to Naruto's destructive power. He created the ten tails by shooting 9 blasts. The ten tails has continent level feats, and Naruto created it just with his collateral damage. Kaguya's durability is, as I have proved countless times, superior to everything in the Bleach verse.
You're stupid. Sasuke has instant transmission.
Uh, even with the exclusion of hax, Kaguya could physically dominate Juha Bach. She would lop his head off before he processed the fight starting. Even if they were equal in speed and strength, for the sake of a thread, there's no way Juha's getting past her dimensional relapsing, her chakra stealing, gravity/density manipulation, teleporting, vaporize touch, etc. She would start the fight by teleporting him to the moon. The end.
Ulquiorra was stronger than any of the other espada. Even Yammy. With his second ressurection, Ulquiorra might as well have been the primavera. Ichigo couldn't even TOUCH Ulquiorra when he went second ressurection, but could cut Yammy with a single getsuga.
Uh, you're stupid. Yes, Grimmjow should be much faster than Zommari, aside from sonido speed, but Stark isn't that strong. He's still weaker than Ulquiorra.
Aizen caught his sword, so what? He blocked Ichigo's with a finger. Except Koma wasn't dead, meaning he obviously DID need it to put him down.
You clearly are too stupid to realize what I was pointing out, so let me make it very clear. Aizen was not much stronger at that point then when he was shown early on, if he was at all. The fact of the matter is that he required a level 90 kido to deal with one of the weaker captains, Komomura. Not to mention that he only dealt with them that easily because of his monstrously hax shikai. Sure he was able to beat them all, but only so casually because of his retarded abilities stacked onto his incredible(for Bleach) strength. The fact of the matter is, that if Byakuya DID get that much stronger, then he should have been capable of at least fighting on par with Aizen, and at that level, should have crapped on Zommari without even using shikai. And, you know, since Ichigo was stronger at that point, he should have dominated Aizen, considering he didn't even use shikai on Ichigo, who was bankai and hollowfied. However, Ichigo got raped. PIS.
Uh, yeah Zommari was not a good counter for Byakuya, but he should have been so physically stronger and faster than him, that he could have used his hierro to wave the petals away. I mean, his skin is harder than steel from swords, so he should have had no trouble tanking Byakuya's bankai.
Um, is that not exactly what I just said? Ichigo crapped on Dordoni with his mask, but required it to beat him, at least effectively enough to progress. Without it, more fighters would have come to Dordoni's aid, and Ichigo would have died. Ichigo was cocky. He didn't want to use his full power right away, because he thought it would be an admission of weakness, and futility on his part. However, that still puts Dordoni around Bankai Ichigo's level. Again, without that kind of MONSTROUS PIS, Dordoni would be stronger than Zommari, because Ichigo is stronger than Byakuya with his mask on, and around his equal in Bankai, as we've seen.
Um, but that list you just made doesn't make sense. Dordoni contended with bankai Ichigo, and forced him to go hollow.
That makes the list like this: Hollow bankai Ichigo >> bankai Ichigo >= Dordoni > Byakuya >> Zommari.
That's retarded, and goes to show that statements from Bleach can't be trusted. 👆
