Superman vs Mental attackers

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Superman vs Mental attackers

We saw him mindraped by strong telepath but he has resisted telepathy or mantal attack through his sheer willpower.
How strong is Superman against telepathy or mental attack?
And,Can he resist their mental attack?

1)Psylocke
2)Emma Frost
3)Manchester Black
4)Professor X
5)Martian Manhunter
6)Despero
7)Thanos
extra1)Galactus
extra2)Dominus
extra3)Mr Mxyzptlk

Which Superman?

Originally posted by Delta1938
Which Superman?

Sorry, Pre Flash Point.

*Abhi looks up*

Superman needs me!

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
*Abhi looks up*

Superman needs me!


😂

Stops at 6. The gauntlet is slightly f*cked up though.

Originally posted by Epicurus
Stops at 6. The gauntlet is slightly f*cked up though.

Superman has outright resisted Despero. He has also thrown Mxy twins out of his mind.

Cool story bro. He still stops at 6.

Originally posted by Epicurus
Cool story bro. He still stops at 6.

Even though he has resisted Despero's TP? Cool story bro.

Many people say that Superman is vulnerable to mantal attack, so, strong telepath can easily mindrape Superman.
But, I think that Superman has resisted mental attack through sheer willpower, so, Superman is invulnerable to mental attack.
Which is true?

Superman has the best mental resistance feats of anybody non-telepath up to and including high-herald.

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This scenario is a bit weird.
So he just stands there, fending their mental attack.. for how long? Indefinitely? Isn't that a no-win situation for Superman?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Even though he has resisted Despero's TP?

Yes.

Originally posted by Philosophía
no-win situation....Superman?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
*Abhi looks up*

Superman needs me!

This was a fun thread to read😆

Originally posted by Philosophía
This scenario is a bit weird.
So he just stands there, fending their mental attack.. for how long? Indefinitely? Isn't that a no-win situation for Superman?

Sorry. so, 10 minutes.

Originally posted by CatL18
Many people say that Superman is vulnerable to mantal attack, so, strong telepath can easily mindrape Superman.
But, I think that Superman has resisted mental attack through sheer willpower, so, Superman is invulnerable to mental attack.
Which is true?

"Vulnerable" is a broad term and often taken to mean weak against or extremely vulnerable. It simply means you can be effected. If you have a powerful enough telepath you can mindrape Superman, but most people are ignorant of his feats resisting this. In fact the two(maybe ONLY two) examples I see brought against him the most are Maxwell Lord(heavily out of context, and it seems Max may be a far more telepath than people give him credit for even in context) and Poison Ivy controlling him in HUSH(a low showing yes, but pheromone control so not even telepathy). As Abhi pointed-out, he's resisted Despero and the Mxy twins. He's also resisted Martian Manhunter(his subconscious force J'onn out of a probe meant to see if there were any telepaths messing with his mind) and Manchester Black(who I would put above J'onn). And others. Superman isn't without his low showings(I can think of a couple), but I've honestly seen a much larger number of examples resisting telepathy(even if I were to include the Max and Ivy examples), including insane feats.

And it's not just his willpower. Martian Manhunter stated his inability to track Clark Kent(in a story looking at J'onn's earlier years on Earth, knew Clark was Kryptonian and wanted to keep an eye on how he turned-out) because of Kryptonian minds being different from human, and another story, IIRC the details, had Kryptonian minds naturally having telepathic resistance. I'm sure the majority of his resisting is willpower, but evidence shows he'd naturally have some resistance simply being Kryptonian.

I agree with you on the whys of Superman's ability to resist/high end showing against mental attacks.
Also, i wish you luck with this:

"Vulnerable" is a broad term and often taken to mean weak against or extremely vulnerable. It simply means you can be effected.

I've been using the same reasoning when it comes to Superman and magic for years to no avail.

Originally posted by riv6672
I agree with you on the whys of Superman's ability to resist/high end showing against mental attacks.
Also, i wish you luck with this:

I've been using the same reasoning when it comes to Superman and magic for years to no avail.

You're not alone. So many think just because he can be effected by it, he's weak against it, like it's Kryptonite or red solar energy. Thor has been effected by it. Hell, Loki turned him into a frog once(with prep). But do you see people arguing Thor is weak against magic? Of course, different writers have different opinions, and we've seen it treated as different types have different levels of effectiveness, but most don't treat Superman against it like many argue here and elsewhere. Also, he's straight-up overcome stuff like mystical transformation and a death god's "death power"(for lack of a better term) though sheer willpower.

Bingo.

Superman has resisted Despero before.

He has also fallen victim to Despero.

So with that, he could stop at 6.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Superman has resisted Despero before.

He has also fallen victim to Despero.

So with that, he could stop at 6.

Where has he fallen to Despero's telepathy?