Originally posted by EnzeruThat was during the time Galactus ate the Skrull home world which means he was weakened. And Xavier literally accomplished nothing and Galactus went on to destroy the planet while the X-Men ran.
I can't talk too much about this now, because I'm not that well versed with X-Men comic. Never was into them, so I don't know all too much about the overall context, but from what I know Xavier once invaded Galactus' mind and hit him with the positive feelings of 8 billion Skrulls.
Galactus however hit Xavier back with all of their negative feelings:
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Mind%20and%20Senses/002-X-Men90.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Mind%20and%20Senses/003-X-Men90.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Mind%20and%20Senses/004-X-Men90.jpgAnd here Xavier stated that he could put everyone on the battlefield to sleep with a thought (Galactus was present as well):
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/120293/3330979-xavier4.jpg
http://www.flashbackuniverse.com/blogImages/PierreBlogImages/artOfResearch/Illuminati0X.jpgAlthough to be honest with him not being that effective against Galactus in the upper encounter I don't see him sandman'ing Galactus with a simple thought in the first place.
However, Xavier was fighting the Phoenix on an infinite planes of existence thingy WTF:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/30174/2529351-z3fl0.jpgBut that feat is like ...
... this nonsense.
When it comes to Supermans high end feats half of the time I don't even understand what it means. Infinite what? Oh come on, that doesn't even make sense! Not again!
And in Secret Wars, Xavier and Magneto going all out couldn't even pass his defenses and almost got killed by Galactus mentally glancing in their direction. So yeah Xavier could have definitely put Galactus to sleep in Secret Wars...
Galactus was also about to feed in SW.
Also Vat sent me a Pm saying Leo sucks little boys toes. Are you going to put up with that Leo?
Originally posted by Enzeru
I can see "willpower" giving a telepath a hard time in very specific cases like for example these:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEZ0Mr9N1G4
But yeah, I do understand why the willpower-thingy bothers you... simply because most of the time there is more to telepathic resistances than just being like: "I say the nay! Talk to my willpower!"...
It's the only way the writers can have fan favourites immune to telepathy. The power of willpower, heart og friendship.
Quire danced around Wolverine's defenses twice now, and even had him in his MMO-illusion several days. Cap shouldn't be a problem.
Lol he could've been bluffing.
Quire never tried. He's just a snotty punk kid, and if such a kid got called out by Captain fricking America.....you think he'd even try?
Cool visual and all, but for all we know a pissed off Quire COULD have broken through. I know Cap has other showings, am just pointing it out.
Originally posted by Delta1938
I'm not a mutant expert either. Based on the scans, it looked like Charles basically tried and failed. Maybe Galactus had his guard down for it. I dunno, I'm just going by those panels. The thing about "sandmanin'ing"(hey I like that term!!!) Galactus, that was actually a flashback of SECRET WARS and contradicts Professor X failing to even penetrate passive TP defenses despite help from Magneto. Could be a retcon, could just be the writer didn't do his homework. Not sure on that Phoenix thing either.Basically Dominus was forcing information from a multiverse, various possible timelines, into Superman's head. Think of Galactus putting the hatred of the Skrulls into Professor X's head, but on a WTF scale.
Secret Wars, the actual scene has him and Magneto trying, and failing to penetrate an unaware Galactus' mind, and then nearly getting killed for their trouble when Galactus finally became aware of what they were trying to do.
As far as the Phoenix instance goes, iirc Jean's own consciousness was trying to fight off the PF's corrupting influence, so there's a question mark on whether Xavier actually bested the Force under his own power straight-up.
Basically, Enzu posted scans which were either out of context, or just meaningless hyperbole on Xavier's part(the SW scan).
Originally posted by Epicurus
Xavier has always failed against Galactus. The Skrull instance, he failed to so much as budge Galactus, and G simply went on to devour the planet whole.Secret Wars, the actual scene has him and Magneto trying, and failing to penetrate an unaware Galactus' mind, and then nearly getting killed for their trouble when Galactus finally became aware of what they were trying to do.
As far as the Phoenix instance goes, iirc Jean's own consciousness was trying to fight off the PF's corrupting influence, so there's a question mark on whether Xavier actually bested the Force under his own power straight-up.
Basically, Enzu posted scans which were either out of context, or just meaningless hyperbole on Xavier's part(the SW scan).
I could see how he didn't accomplish anything significant. It seemed the biggest thing in question was whether he actually got through to Galactus at all, or Galactus let him in, with the communication(considering SECRET WARS) and Skrull anguish stuff.
Yep!! I was pointing that out and at best the scan he showed that Charles could sandman Galactus was a retcon, to an error on the writer. Or, hyperbole you mentioned works.
I think with what Enzu brought-up it was more the scale Professor X fought, on "infinite planes of existence," not so much Professor X winning, and he didn't seem sure what was going on with that.
To be fair, Enzu stated he's not familiar with them. He may have brought them up more for someone more familiar to give details.
Originally posted by CatL18
Dr Doom resisted Purple Man, High Evolutionary, etc by his willpower.
Do you hate him?
Since Doom is Marvel, I'd guess the answer is "No."
Originally posted by Delta1938
I know you don't like DC, but neither Superman nor characters from DC are the only ones to have resisted telepathy by willpower.
the overwhelming irony of someone who cries in every dc thread posting a crying gif is hilarious to me. 😆
and of course many marvel characters resist tp via willpower. magneto has used pure willpower to resist even xavier. there are countless other examples but none of those would ever count because, well, they are marvel. predictability ftw!!1! nwoot
Originally posted by leonidas
the overwhelming irony of someone who cries in every dc thread posting a crying gif is hilarious to me. 😆and of course many marvel characters resist tp via willpower. magneto has used pure willpower to resist even xavier. there are countless other examples but none of those would ever count because, well, they are marvel. predictability ftw!!1! nwoot
😮 Actually, I replaced his text rant of crying with a gif of crying.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
That was during the time Galactus ate the Skrull home world which means he was weakened. And Xavier literally accomplished nothing and Galactus went on to destroy the planet while the X-Men ran.And in Secret Wars, Xavier and Magneto going all out couldn't even pass his defenses and almost got killed by Galactus mentally glancing in their direction. So yeah Xavier could have definitely put Galactus to sleep in Secret Wars...
Galactus was also about to feed in SW.Also Vat sent me a Pm saying Leo sucks little boys toes. Are you going to put up with that Leo?
who the eff is vat? 😑 and i find it disturbing he went straight for a little boys crack. sneer
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Oh it's vet? Guess I never looked at it nor cared. Still don't.But anyway yeah Vat hates your guts to death.he said something like you're always trying to hop on his toes and shit.
😂
figured that was who you were getting at--it was him or a code name for quan. if i was him (or that toe-sucking quan) i'd hate me too. always easy to hate someone who so easily sees through your bullsh!t and calls you out on it every time. 😄
that's why i like you so much--your bullsh!t is impenetrable. sneer
Originally posted by leonidasKeep running from me and your caps lock, make believe teacher. What teacher doesn't use caps, honestly.
😂figured that was who you were getting at--it was him or a code name for quan. if i was him (or that toe-sucking quan) i'd hate me too. always easy to hate someone who so easily sees through your bullsh!t and calls you out on it every time. 😄
that's why i like you so much--your bullsh!t is impenetrable. sneer
