Invincible VS Young Thor: Time Limit Challenge!

Started by abhilegend5 pages

Originally posted by Enzeru
No, I'm not. I am looking at the greatest feats characters had throughout the years and compare them with each other.
You on the other hand are purposely searching for low showing of the character you want to see losing and use these as your arguments.
The irony is, you consider Mark worrying that he would die upon impact with a planet as a consideration of low durability when there is an instance of Thor worrying that he would die falling from a building and saying hercules would die falling from a building. What would we do with statements like those?

http://i.imgur.com/9g7ltZ8.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/cJ5gPd8.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/QhLEKvl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fK3EjmW.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/SGJgOOu.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/YChn47R.jpg

And they aren't singular instances either. Three Thor level beings in Thor, Hercules and Ulik were in mortal danger falling from a building. These are low showings. Fearing that he would die from impacting a planet at very high speed isn't.

That was enough to report me? Let me give you a real reason to report me:
This is like the ranting of a child that thinks he is the smartest being on planet.

Raj, you're the biggest idiot on this entire board. LITERALLY the biggest idiot on this entire board.
Well, for starters my name isn't Raj. Try to keep up kiddo.

You might think that it's Carver due to his overall HULK RULEZZZ nature, but Carver at least sometimes even makes sense. The problem with Carver are the limitations his favorite character has, which also prevent that said character from winning any forum battles - but Carver's mind can't process and accept that, because the character is doing well in comics, where things are simply different.
You might think that I'm the idiot, for constantly bashing you, but no no ...
I actually pity you kid.

You are.
Ooooh, that burns. "No. you". How will I ever recover from this huge revelation!!!!

Your style of debating is absolutely abysmal. If I was to open a Powerless Superman VS Wolverine thread, you would be arguing for Superman, because Wolverine got knocked out by a deer.
Well, Wolverine wasn't KOED by that deer, which you would've known if you read that comic. Yes, I've read Wolverine's comics too. He happens to be one of my favorite characters.
It boggles my mind to read your shitty way of lowballing Superman's opponents, or actually any opponent of a character Superman has been associated with in any way, shape or form.
Oh really? Then what am I doing in this thread defending Invincible? Shouldn't I be lowballing both Invincible and Thor?

And then there is also your disgusting ignorance towards real life problems of forum members and even women.
Yeah, you got me there. "Even women"!!!! One joke and I'm now the biggest sexist in the world!!!

You should have been banned long time ago, you troll.
Well, lucky me I guess.

Edit: Also LOL @ surviving three attacks of Celestial being a low showing. Common sense.
Who said it was a low showing? I said he didn't tank it as he was almost dead. Its a very high end feat for him but its blown hugely out of proportion. And again reported.

Originally posted by abhilegend
The irony is, you consider Mark worrying that he would die upon impact with a planet as a consideration of low durability

Dude, it's one of his greatest showings so far.

Feel free to show me any similar durability feat for Invincible, which lets us assume how good his durability actually is.
Him fighting against other Viltrumites won't be such a showing, because we don't know how much damage they can dish out. What we know is that they can't destroy planets and that even three of them would die upon high speed impact with a planet, so their strength / durability ratio is obviously lower than the one of Marvel's high heralds at their best.

Thor had low showings, just like every other high herald (not only in Marvel). Your Superdudebro got knocked out by a nuclear explosion and that was a low showing for him, considering that during other instances it took exploding planets and supernovas to knock him out.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I actually pity you kid.

Now that is really insulting, BECAUSE IT'S COMING FROM YOU!
And it's sooo funny... At this point you've become totally immune against all the hate and critique you have to go up against on KMC.

And I won't even read any further. I already said that I wouldn't bother with you anymore and I'm an idiot for breaking my word in the first place.

Have a nice day, Raj.

Originally posted by Enzeru
Dude, it's one of his greatest showings so far.
And that's why its not a low feat. Considering he tanked the explosion of the planet, which you conveniently forgot.

Feel free to show me any similar durability feat for Invincible, which lets us assume how good his durability actually is.
Him fighting against other Viltrumites won't be such a showing, because we don't know how much damage they can dish out. What we know is that they can't destroy planets and that even three of them would die upon high speed impact with a planet, so their strength / durability ratio is obviously lower than the one of Marvel's high heralds at their best.
And they can tank a planet's explosion without getting killed. Not bad considering how they fare against speedy impacts on the planet.

Thor had low showings, just like every other high herald (not only in Marvel). Your Superdudebro got knocked out by a nuclear explosion and that was a low showing for him, considering that during other instances it took exploding planets and supernovas to knock him out.
Who said Superman doesn't has low showings? I'm well aware of them. Thor has been actually afraid of dying from exploding planets too, or falling from heights. So it actually cancels outs.

Now that is really insulting, BECAUSE IT'S COMING FROM YOU!
Good, good.
And it's sooo funny... At this point you've become totally immune against all the hate and critique you have to go up against on KMC.
Yeah, online hate is easy to ignore. Say this to anybody's face and see where it gets you.

I'm an idiot.
Ok, that's a nice confession.

Have a nice day, Raj.
Since I'm a very terrible person as you say, have a nice day. And concession accepted.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
I guess the writer speaking through narration is not enough eh? Add the fact that two celestial bodies one of which was a great distance away were shattering during that narration... Seems like you think directly punching a planet is infinitely more impressive. He couldn't possibly bust a planet. 🙁

Surfer casually showed superiority? Oh you mean how he was stalemating a Thor with a huge gaping wound? That superiority?

Thor shouldn't be compared to heralds? I really can't help you there. 🙁

Why mention Spidey dance around a character who's not even him?

A holding back Thor vs Wolvie who fell prey to an illusion. Who consequently got tagged easily anyway.

Quicksilver dodging a lightning strike then got easily subdued in a couple of panels while Thor himself says how he's vanquished foes even swifter is not him merely dancing around Thor.

Don't remember this Cap and Thunderstrike instance you're talking about.

Seems like all the instances you've mentioned (even irrelevant ones) were brought up for one purpose only. Sorry to say, but I do smell a lowballin hater.... Hmm.....

Can you show me Thor destroying Planets on any consistent basis? Can you show me Thor busting mountains on a consistent basis? Overpowering Juggernaut? Overpowering Hulk in every fight?

What I am asking for is feats to prove on a consistent and clear basis Thor busting planets or "celestial bodies" on any consistent basis in strength.

As for the speed instances, can you show me a clear panel of Thor using super speed other than flying with his hammer? Show me Thor speed blitzing or countering with kicks and punches a speed blitzer?

If you can show me or tell me issues where he did that so I can look them up, then I will take back my statements. Im not above being proven wrong. 🙂

Question: what is harder, fight without a liver (it being transmuted during the fight) or fighting without a member(lose a leg/arm during the fight) ?

Thor does not generally fight mountains.

He fights villains.

Originally posted by CadenceV2
Can you show me Thor destroying Planets on any consistent basis? Can you show me Thor busting mountains on a consistent basis? Overpowering Juggernaut? Overpowering Hulk in every fight?

What I am asking for is feats to prove on a consistent and clear basis Thor busting planets or "celestial bodies" on any consistent basis in strength.

As for the speed instances, can you show me a clear panel of Thor using super speed other than flying with his hammer? Show me Thor speed blitzing or countering with kicks and punches a speed blitzer?

If you can show me or tell me issues where he did that so I can look them up, then I will take back my statements. Im not above being proven wrong. 🙂


Here have fun.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t522796.html

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Here have fun.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t522796.html

That was a nice thread, however strength wise I still saw very little that surpasses Viltrumite strength, nor anything planet busting with blows. His best strength feat is Lifting the Midgard serpent (Debunked multiple times), arm wrestling Hercules till the planet is out of orbit (purely hyperbole as the planet next issue is fine), and the Neutron Star feat which is impressive, but a one time showing and far exceeds the consistent showings of Thor. I see no reason he will one shot Mark.

Speed wise his best feats are all feats Captain America has done himself (React to missiles, Tank shells, and lasers even) so nothing impressive there. He has shown twice to react to speedsters besides quicksilver, however both speedsters are pretty much nobodies with no stated speeds. Are they faster than bullets? I doubt they are faster than Mark.

So again, nothing to change my stance overall.

Originally posted by abhilegend
The irony is, you consider Mark worrying that he would die upon impact with a planet as a consideration of low durability when there is an instance of Thor worrying that he would die falling from a building and saying hercules would die falling from a building. What would we do with statements like those?

http://i.imgur.com/9g7ltZ8.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/cJ5gPd8.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/QhLEKvl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fK3EjmW.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/SGJgOOu.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/YChn47R.jpg

And they aren't singular instances either. Three Thor level beings in Thor, Hercules and Ulik were in mortal danger falling from a building. These are low showings. Fearing that he would die from impacting a planet at very high speed isn't.

This is like the ranting of a child that thinks he is the smartest being on planet.

Well, for starters my name isn't Raj. Try to keep up kiddo.

I actually pity you kid.

Ooooh, that burns. "No. you". How will I ever recover from this huge revelation!!!!

Well, Wolverine wasn't KOED by that deer, which you would've known if you read that comic. Yes, I've read Wolverine's comics too. He happens to be one of my favorite characters.
Oh really? Then what am I doing in this thread defending Invincible? Shouldn't I be lowballing both Invincible and Thor?

Yeah, you got me there. "Even women"!!!! One joke and I'm now the biggest sexist in the world!!!

Well, lucky me I guess.

Who said it was a low showing? I said he didn't tank it as he was almost dead. Its a very high end feat for him but its blown hugely out of proportion. And again reported.

I don't get why other congeners won't pull you up on your shit that classic Thor and modern Thor are completely different beast

Classic Thor would have died against Gorr

Originally posted by CadenceV2
Can you show me Thor destroying Planets on any consistent basis? Can you show me Thor busting mountains on a consistent basis? Overpowering Juggernaut? Overpowering Hulk in every fight?

What I am asking for is feats to prove on a consistent and clear basis Thor busting planets or "celestial bodies" on any consistent basis in strength.

As for the speed instances, can you show me a clear panel of Thor using super speed other than flying with his hammer? Show me Thor speed blitzing or countering with kicks and punches a speed blitzer?

If you can show me or tell me issues where he did that so I can look them up, then I will take back my statements. Im not above being proven wrong. 🙂

Originally posted by CadenceV2
That was a nice thread, however strength wise I still saw very little that surpasses Viltrumite strength, nor anything planet busting with blows. His best strength feat is Lifting the Midgard serpent (Debunked multiple times), arm wrestling Hercules till the planet is out of orbit (purely hyperbole as the planet next issue is fine), and the Neutron Star feat which is impressive, but a one time showing and far exceeds the consistent showings of Thor. I see no reason he will one shot Mark.

Speed wise his best feats are all feats Captain America has done himself (React to missiles, Tank shells, and lasers even) so nothing impressive there. He has shown twice to react to speedsters besides quicksilver, however both speedsters are pretty much nobodies with no stated speeds. Are they faster than bullets? I doubt they are faster than Mark.

So again, nothing to change my stance overall.

:/ another one

Originally posted by CadenceV2
That was a nice thread, however strength wise I still saw very little that surpasses Viltrumite strength, nor anything planet busting with blows. His best strength feat is Lifting the Midgard serpent (Debunked multiple times), arm wrestling Hercules till the planet is out of orbit (purely hyperbole as the planet next issue is fine), and the Neutron Star feat which is impressive, but a one time showing and far exceeds the consistent showings of Thor. I see no reason he will one shot Mark.

Speed wise his best feats are all feats Captain America has done himself (React to missiles, Tank shells, and lasers even) so nothing impressive there. He has shown twice to react to speedsters besides quicksilver, however both speedsters are pretty much nobodies with no stated speeds. Are they faster than bullets? I doubt they are faster than Mark.

So again, nothing to change my stance overall.


First off, this thread involves Young Thor. I don't know why you've turned this into current Thor not able to one-shot Invincible. Second, I only responded to your post about current Thor to save you from continuing to look ignorant. Unfortunately nothing short of a brain transplant can save you now.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
First off, this thread involves Young Thor. I don't know why you've turned this into current Thor not able to one-shot Invincible. Second, I only responded to your post about current Thor to save you from continuing to look ignorant. Unfortunately nothing short of a brain transplant can save you now.

When the writers consistently disrespect the character at every turn, which may in fact be the most consistent aspect of Thor unfortunately, I don't expect many readers to look past the poorly written bs that is dumped on him on a regular basis. These days it almost seems as if a decent story can't be written without shoveling an especially pungent pile of bs on Thor. Fortunately, I've developed a particularly strong immunity to it and the disgusting levels of mediocrity they would have me believe surround Thor.

With that said, in this scenario Mark will come to realize that invincible is but a word to the god of thunder and words often fall short.

Originally posted by maxivitopowe
I don't get why other congeners won't pull you up on your shit that classic Thor and modern Thor are completely different beast

Classic Thor would have died against Gorr

:/ another one


WTF? Do you know anything about Thor?

Originally posted by maxivitopowe
I don't get why other congeners won't pull you up on your shit that classic Thor and modern Thor are completely different beast

Classic Thor would have died against Gorr

What "Classic" issues of Thor or Journey Into Mystery are you basing this on?

The ones I've read give Thor classic a better chance at victory than his modern counterpart. Kirby's Thor was much more pre-disposed to use Mjolnir in all its aspects.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
What "Classic" issues of Thor or Journey Into Mystery are you basing this on?

The ones I've read give Thor classic a better chance at victory than his modern counterpart. Kirby's Thor was much more pre-disposed to use Mjolnir in all its aspects.

I agree with this. Classic Thor and Hercules for that matter have shown way better feats then than current versions.

Thor is dying from falls from tall buildings, is slower than wolverine and his strength is ~ Luke Cage levels.

Invincible kills him

Originally posted by Warlord
Thor is dying from falls from tall buildings, is slower than wolverine and his strength is ~ Luke Cage levels.

Invincible kills him

I take this is in reference to classic Thor.

The Kirby era Thor was a much smarter combatant than his modern counterpart. Mjolnir was utilized a lot earlier and in a myriad of ways when Thor realized brawling wasn't enough.

He would drain Mark of his power or even life, conjure up protective shields etc.

Originally posted by CadenceV2
I agree with this. Classic Thor and Hercules for that matter have shown way better feats then than current versions.
Classic Thor and current Thor is the same Thor.

Originally posted by JayDaDon
I dont think Mark has surpassed his dad just yet id be willing to bet he's still a hair or more below omni man.

On a related note, Battle Beast Vs Thragg is next issue. BATTLE BEAST VS THRAGG IS NEXT ISSUE!

Didn't Thragg basically one shot BB during the viltrumite war?

Originally posted by CadenceV2
Can you show me Thor destroying Planets on any consistent basis? Can you show me Thor busting mountains on a consistent basis? Overpowering Juggernaut? Overpowering Hulk in every fight?

What I am asking for is feats to prove on a consistent and clear basis Thor busting planets or "celestial bodies" on any consistent basis in strength.

As for the speed instances, can you show me a clear panel of Thor using super speed other than flying with his hammer? Show me Thor speed blitzing or countering with kicks and punches a speed blitzer?

If you can show me or tell me issues where he did that so I can look them up, then I will take back my statements. Im not above being proven wrong. 🙂


Originally posted by CadenceV2
That was a nice thread, however strength wise I still saw very little that surpasses Viltrumite strength, nor anything planet busting with blows. His best strength feat is Lifting the Midgard serpent (Debunked multiple times), arm wrestling Hercules till the planet is out of orbit (purely hyperbole as the planet next issue is fine), and the Neutron Star feat which is impressive, but a one time showing and far exceeds the consistent showings of Thor. I see no reason he will one shot Mark.

Speed wise his best feats are all feats Captain America has done himself (React to missiles, Tank shells, and lasers even) so nothing impressive there. He has shown twice to react to speedsters besides quicksilver, however both speedsters are pretty much nobodies with no stated speeds. Are they faster than bullets? I doubt they are faster than Mark.

So again, nothing to change my stance overall.


WTF is this shit? 😬

Thor was shattering worlds as a side-effect of his battle with Gorr. To the point that he had to go to the nearby moon and save its inhabitants from the effects of Mjolnir's blow. Thor has engaged Death-Seed enhanced Sentry who literally hurled their atoms forward at speeds much greater than light, and he was able to traverse lightyears within mere seconds while chasing Gorr.

Thor is definitely a bonafide planet-buster, who has the capability to react at superhuman speeds.

Edit: Thor has defeated an amped version of Hulk in their last encounter(Fear Itself), and the Juggernaut is such a massive jobber, it's not even funny to mention his name in the same sentence as someone like Thor.

😂