Ferguson Riots

Started by Shakyamunison74 pages

Originally posted by Oneness
For me all it takes is a hug.

No taser.

To get a knife in your back.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
To get a knife in your back.
What are you talking about? That DT came out of no where. So uncivilized.

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Originally posted by Shakyamunison
To get a knife in your back.
Kinda reminded me of this, actually.

Originally posted by Oneness
I would never kill a weakened and desperate human being for acting as such.

Most people who've never been in such situations would probably say that.

Here's what wounds from a box-cutter look like (image is graphic)- that's a box cutter, not something specifically intended to be used as a weapon, like a knife.

When someone wielding a weapon with the capability of doing that type of damage charges you, falling back on your taser and "1337" billy club martial arts isn't just pointless bravado, it's stupid and will probably result in you getting seriously injured if not killed for no reason.

In the specific situation linked in this thread, I think the police should have tried to use their tazers, yeah. But on the other hand I think that when met with deadly force police shouldn't be expected to try to be the "bigger man"- they have a right to protect themselves in the most reasonably effective way possible.

When tazers become semi-automatic/fully-automatic, then I'll endorse using them against everything up to a gun. Otherwise, I think the use of deadly force in response to deadly force is perfectly reasonable, if not always necessary.

They still didn't have to shoot him 5 more ****ing times after he'd hit the ground from the first shot.

Why didn't they just bring the fire department out and hoze them all down😂

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Why didn't they just bring the fire department out and hoze them all down😂
That'd do it.
Those things will knock you on your ass, they take off the paint on cars.

Originally posted by Oneness
That'd do it.
Those things will knock you on your ass, they take off the paint on cars.

Hell ya, just roll out a pair of these puppies and everyone runs home.

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Originally posted by Tzeentch
Most people who've never been in such situations would probably say that.

Here's what wounds from a box-cutter look like (image is graphic)- that's a box cutter, not something specifically intended to be used as a weapon, like a knife.

When someone wielding a weapon with the capability of doing that type of damage charges you, falling back on your taser and "1337" billy club martial arts isn't just pointless bravado, it's stupid and will probably result in you getting seriously injured if not killed for no reason.

In the specific situation linked in this thread, I think the police should have tried to use their tazers, yeah. But on the other hand I think that when met with deadly force police shouldn't be expected to try to be the "bigger man"- they have a right to protect themselves in the most reasonably effective way possible.

When tazers become semi-automatic/fully-automatic, then I'll endorse using them against everything up to a gun. Otherwise, I think the use of deadly force in response to deadly force is perfectly reasonable, if not always necessary.

The use of deadly force when being threatened with deadly force is generally not the issue people have though. Rather it is the perception that a) deadly force is used far too casually by police officers (particularly when it comes to black people being shot) and b) that they get away without significant repercussions when they use deadly force in inappropriate situations.

Originally posted by Bardock42
The use of deadly force when being threatened with deadly force is generally not the issue people have though. Rather it is the perception that a) deadly force is used far too casually by police officers (particularly when it comes to black people being shot) and b) that they get away without significant repercussions when they use deadly force in inappropriate situations.

If you continue to post this nonsense I'll call the police and they'll shoot you 😈

Originally posted by MF DELPH
In both of these scenarios I think the Officer had an opportunity to use non-lethal force. It was a split second decision, granted, but Officer's spend a lot of time at the shooting range. A knee cap shot is not out of the question. Mike could be in a hospital with a shot out knee and shattered thigh facing a felony assault of an Officer charge, or possibly a pending civil suit against the Police Department for Officer Misconduct, but either way, he'd be alive.

Law Enforcement trains specifically to NOT take non-lethal shots. They actually train specifically to kill someone before they get too close during a violent situation.

A knee-cap shot is not what they train for.

This is part of why I am thinking that the "warning" shots that were fired show that Wilson ****ed up a bit in this encounter.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Law Enforcement trains specifically to NOT take non-lethal shots. They actually train specifically to kill someone before they get too close during a violent situation.

A knee-cap shot is not what they train for.

This is part of why I am thinking that the "warning" shots that were fired show that Wilson ****ed up a bit in this encounter.

exactly. center mass is generally taught. trying to shoot to dehabilitate can lead to death or injury to the public

Originally posted by Bardock42
The use of deadly force when being threatened with deadly force is generally not the issue people have though.

The use of deadly force in response to deadly force was the issue being held in the post I was responding to. Your dissonance is showing, my son.

Originally posted by Oneness
They still didn't have to shoot him 5 more ****ing times after he'd hit the ground from the first shot.
I don't think the corpse really cared.

Waste of bullets.

"You wanna get Capone? Here's how you get him. He pulls a knife, you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue! That's the Chicago way, and that's how you get Capone!" -J. Malone

Originally posted by dadudemon
Law Enforcement trains specifically to NOT take non-lethal shots. They actually train specifically to kill someone before they get too close during a violent situation.

A knee-cap shot is not what they train for.

This is part of why I am thinking that the "warning" shots that were fired show that Wilson ****ed up a bit in this encounter.


^Then that needs to be changed. I don't think killing someone is an appropriate response to being punched/kicked by an unarmed person simply because there's a possible scenario where they could obtain the weapons you are carrying into the confrontation. That's the leap in logic I can't reconcile. If you're facing an armed hostile suspect, fine. The issue is that since we are providing officers with an essential loophole they've been using either "We thought the suspect had a gun/knife" or "The suspect was attempting to take my firearm" response to justify deadly force when the victim is in fact unarmed. I'll grant that it puts the officer at risk to have to make the determination that there's an actual threat, but frankly, I think a dead or injured law enforcement officer, who is a trained professional in an occupation where he is supposed to deal with dangerous situations, and is also armed and most times wearing a form of protection (vest), is better than a dead civilian who was the victim of a poor judgment call by that officer. There's accountability on the part of the citizen as well, but I don't think it's ok to just accept the fact that shooting to kill is an officer's primary option in any hostile situation or altercation they might have with a civilian.

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Total badass, takes the bean-bags and tear gas. Water seems to be his weakness though.

Originally posted by Robtard
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Total badass, takes the bean-bags and tear gas. Water seems to be his weakness though.

They took a ladder to him as well like a cattle prob.

I'm glad they opted to use a ladder instead of shooting him in the head.

Originally posted by Tzeentch
The use of deadly force in response to deadly force was the issue being held in the post I was responding to. Your dissonance is showing, my son.

Actually, it was a reply to a Oneness post, which are well known to be devoid of content.