Originally posted by Star428
I understand the difference just fine. Do you?
Oh no I totally don't and asked that question hoping somebody can explain to me what those words mean in the order that they are presented also come on man what kind of weird response is that?
You called rioters animals - and that's fair. But you also seemed to portray that the protesters and the rioters are one collective group. Even using the exact phrase "All of the blacks in Ferguson"
Messed up dude
Originally posted by Quincy
Oh no I totally don't and asked that question hoping somebody can explain to me what those words mean in the order that they are presented also come on man what kind of weird response is that?You called rioters animals - and that's fair. But you also seemed to portray that the protesters and the rioters are one collective group. Even using the exact phrase "All of the blacks in Ferguson"
Messed up dude
Yeah, ok. Point taken. I shouldn't have said "all the blacks". My mistake. But, a lot of them in Ferguson are looting and burning businesses down. Including the father of the thug who was killed. Not surprised though that he doesn't respect the law. You know what they say, "Like father, like son."
Originally posted by Robtardfair enough, i was a kid for that so i don't remember. maybe i'm wrong about the race angle it just seems like obama has been expected to speak on every arbitrary racial police event that pops up. the one black dude at harvard or whatever, trayvon, this shit, etc. but maybe you're right and if it was clinton he'd be doing the same shit. either way it seems like a huge distraction to me.
Clinton went on TV when the 1992 LA riots were going down; he's a white-man, as I'm sure you know
Originally posted by Star428
Yeah, ok. Point taken. I shouldn't have said "all the blacks". My mistake. But, a lot of them in Ferguson are looting and burning businesses down. Including the father of the thug who was killed. Not surprised though that he doesn't respect the law. You know what they say, "Like father, like son."
You do realize that the rioters and looters probably don't give two-shits about the politics behind Brown's death and are just using this as an excuse to break things and steal, yeah?
Do you have some source showing that Brown's father is being a criminal?
Originally posted by MF DELPH
Yeah, dude made a series of bad choices that day that led to his death.Mike Brown:
-Stole some cigars to get high because he didn't have enough money for the purchase he wanted to make.
-Assaulted the clerk who was attempting to stop him from walking of with merchandise he hadn't paid for
-Got the police called on him for that
-Walks in the middle of the street with his stolen goods drawing attention to himself
-Argues with an officer who approaches him and his friend who simply asked them to get out of the street
-Fights with that same officer who had pulled away and doubled back on him when the APB came through on his robbery
-Flees the scene of the altercation with the officer after the officer's gun discharges twice
-Disobeys the officer's commands to freeze and get on the ground, and charges the officer.That's 8 strikes with the bullet being the ninth and final out.
Right on the money as always.
Originally posted by Bardock42
I think we can all agree, except for the racists amongst us, that black people, protesters, rioters and looters are all words describing different groups, sometimes overlapping, sometimes not.
Oh get over it, you are mad about the facts and throwing a hissy fit because what you believed to be true based of inaccurate info turned out to be false...gee ya think?
Originally posted by dadudemon
I know what you're trying to say and the pedants will probably ***** and moan about the inaccuracies in your post so I'll clear them up, now:It was determined that there was not enough probable cause to go to a trial (jury trial, sometimes). Probable cause refers to the potential criminal case, not necessarily to the defendant. Basically, a prosecutor obtains, "enough probable cause" to proceed with an official criminal prosecution. This was not found in this case by the grand jury as there was ample evidence to show that all 4 potential criminal charges would not stick.
Yes, the comparison with Zimmerman is not a good one. There was some ambiguity regarding that Zimmerman case as the "Stand Your Ground" law was making it difficult to determine if Zimmerman should get set free or not. The forensic evidence was clear enough to support, roughly, what Zimmerman was saying and what others were saying. That was not what was disputed in the Zimmers case. What was disputed is if he had legal justification to shoot Martin. Sure, there were lots of disputations going on with the Zimmerman case on whether or not Martin beat the shit out of Zimmerman (he did...and I think Zimmerman deserved his ass kicked and Martin did not deserve to die), but they determined it did not break the law in a jury trial. They got the indictment for the Zimmerman case because there was too much interpretation on the law.
In this case, they just needed to collect enough evidence for a grand jury hearing to see if there was any criminal activity from Wilson. Based on the evidence even we have, the evidence much more closely fits Wilson's story than some of the contradicting eye-witnesses. It was probably much easier for the grand jury in this case to determine there's nothing that can stick. The grand jury did their job: prevented a shitty charge from going to jury trial so that it doesn't waste time and resources on an un-win-able case for the "state", as it were. That's pretty much the purpose of a grand jury: stop shitty cases or malicious cases from going through the whole legal process.
To summarize, the George Zimmerman Jury Trial is not comparable to the Wilson Grand Jury hearing. The cases were very much different.
Edit - Also, I'd like to point out that I said I was on the fence about the Wilson stuff but, as time and more evidence has come out, since Wilson's story seems to be strongly supported by the evidence, I no longer consider myself a fence sitter. I think Wilson could have handled the situation better and he probably should not work as a cop for the rest of his life but I do not think he did anything criminal.
Thats what I love about you, you are too kind sir🙂
Originally posted by Robtard
You do realize that the rioters and looters probably don't give two-shits about the politics behind Brown's death and are just using this as an excuse to break things and steal, yeah?Do you have some source showing that Brown's father is being a criminal?
That and their leaders are giving the thumbs up.
What a bunch of goons looking for nothing better to do then steal and destroy.
Leaders? While there are groups of essentially professional anarchist who group together to cause havoc when something like this happens (any cause will do), I'd suspect that the majority of rioters and looters are little more than mob-mentality driven looking to break and steal for the joy of breaking and stealing.
Unfortunately those goons give the proper protestors a bad name. Which is a shame, as their message gets trampled.
Originally posted by Robtard
Leaders? While there are groups of essentially professional anarchist who group together to cause havoc when something like this happens (any cause will do), I'd suspect that the majority of rioters and looters are little more than mob-mentality driven looking to break and steal for the joy of breaking and stealing.Unfortunately those goons give the proper protestors a bad name. Which is a shame, as their message gets trampled.
Every single one of them scum bags should be locked up for 10 years.
Rioting over one of their homies acting like an idiot and trying to kill a cop.
No wonder this world is so ****ed up..
Wilson kindly went up to him and asked him to get off the street and the fcking dumbass started attacking him..and these people are rioting..go fcking figure.
Worthless shit heads.
I remember watching last night on CNN. They were about to cut to commercial and then cut back to get live coverage of rioters tipping and burning a cop car and continued to cover it for a good 10 minutes at least. Meanwhile, on MSNBC, they got the same footage live, but the anchors, who were black and with peaceful protestors, chose not to air it as to not disrupt the real message. Make of that what you will.
Originally posted by Robtard
You do realize that the rioters and looters probably don't give two-shits about the politics behind Brown's death and are just using this as an excuse to break things and steal, yeah?Do you have some source showing that Brown's father is being a criminal?
Well, there is proof of him yelling to some of the other rioters something like "Burn this ***** down"! If you do a google search I'm sure you can see the proof for yourself... and yeah, I also realize that a lot of the looters are doing it as an excuse to get free stuff but that doesn't excuse their behavior now does it? Whatever the hell their reasons are they're still breaking the god**** law and should be shot on sight if their caught in the act of burning businesses down since they all can't be rounded-up.
Originally posted by Star428
Well, there is proof of him yelling to some of the other rioters something like "Burn this ***** down"! If you do a google search I'm sure you can see the proof for yourself... and yeah, I also realize that a lot of the looters are doing it as an excuse to get free stuff but that doesn't excuse their behavior now does it? Whatever the hell their reasons are they're still breaking the god**** law and should be shot on sight if their caught in the act of burning businesses down since they all can't be rounded-up.
That was his step dad, not his actual father who hasn't endorsed any of the chaos.
Originally posted by Star428What a bunch of shit bags.
Also, just want to add that several blacks in Ferguson have made threats against the wives of white police officers.Lek Kuen: Oh, didn't realize it was his step dad and not his real father.
>_>
Anyone hear anything about KFC, Walmart and other companies are moving out of Ferguson for good?